Queensland racing

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Racing Queensland are seeking someone who has passed Yr.7 Maths
You know they have got their sums wrong when you see the winner of a $21k+ race gets < $8k
This is the last race for this Saturday

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Dalgety says that lack of effort at the crucial moment means Krug bounced out of the race feeling good, so he joins what is a near full strength Kiwi assault on the rich Queensland carnival.

He will be on a plane on Friday morning alongside Amazing Dream and the Ray Green-trained quartet of Copy That, American Dealer, Tommy Lincoln and Captain Nemo.

http://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=48471

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I love the video work at Albion Park, as soon as the race is over, an instant close up replay of the winner crossing the line (as if the photo finish) comes up - everybody should be doing it!
Melton is good at fairly quickly showing a high quality replay of the closing stages but what I am talking about at AP is like being shown a (moving) photo finish

Have a look at the Spankem replay to see what I mean

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP120621#APC12062101

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The Rising Sun barrier draw

https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/barrier-draw-for-250000-the-rising-sun/

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What was with Chris Barsby's call of R4 The Ladyship Stakes. You have to call what is happening not what you think is going to happen.
Our Princess Tiffany never headed Saucy Dreams

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP100721#APM10072103

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Fields out

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP170721

Tough task for King Of Swing

It should be a great night of racing

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Does anybody know what that $20,000 after Sam Is Perfection's name is about or is it a typo?

[Toohard]

G'day Kev

Claiming Price. In the race conditions says Claimers eligible with price $20k.

[Messenger]

Makes sense thanks Paul

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I could have put this in the Great Run thread too for that is what it was
American Dealer winning the SE Derby sitting wide for a lap
One other observation from the race - did Aaron Dunn have a strategy on Bondi Lockdown - hope?

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP170721#APM17072106

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http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP240721

Barrier 1 for King Of Swing - $1.22 says it all
Krug is $1.70 for the Derby but from barrier 10 (likely 9) it should be a cracking race
Has the Oaks always been shorter than the Derby?

6 Group 1's in a row :D

[Messenger]

The Blacks A Fake was a great race
King Of Swing was a sensational 3rd but was that a little help that Expensive Ego applied to Copy That?

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP240721#APM24072101

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Anthony Butt and Ricky Thurlow were warned in relation to their conduct following a verbal altercation in the birdcage area after the race.

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/stewards-reports/stewards-reports-detail/?mc=AP240721

This would no doubt be Anthony agreeing that Ricky used Expensive Ego to soften up Copy That

[Showgrounds]

Great theory Kev, but this was a $250k Grand Circuit race! Expensive Ego has been widely touted as the heir to the title of Australia's best pacer and his record gives plenty of support to that viewpoint. It was a terrific race because Butt and Thurlow made it one. Would they have shown that aggression had King of Swing gone away instead of resembling a drunk negotiating the pub steps at closing time? Probably not. Too many GC races are boring affairs when the favourite finds the lead.

Butt copped a 28 day suspension for contacting KOS when he crossed him, although I am sure the favourite contributed somewhat with his behaviour. It seems he has worked out he is a bull horse and he chose to put on a show.

Anyway, the race was as good as over after 200 metres as my wife commented. Once Amazing Dream led, and Butt came looking for the lead, the mare was always going to be the one to beat. Had bookies been taking bets during the race Amazing Dream would have been long odds on once Thurlow applied pressure. History shows the mare has the wood on Copy That over 2700 and further when he is used early.

I have no idea why Butt come to have words with Thurlow and, taking into account what I have written, Thurlow appears to be the innocent party in the exchange. Four-lettered retorts aside, and Butt probably deserved one.

It was a proper race instead of a procession and, all hissy fits aside, the best mare won. Again.

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Not saying Amazing was not amazing
I still see it as softening up the leader, looked like a challenge for the lead which was denied but then decided to inflict a smidge more damage which was the sealer for my view. All this after a long look around
I am not the only one with this view but it is only a view not an accusation.

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There is a piece on the internet highlighting the third stable runner No.3 Spirit Of St Louis's driver strangely drifting 3 wide and letting Expensive Ego off the fence before he carts up King Of Swing
It makes for interesting viewing

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP240721#APM24072101

[Showgrounds]

Red hot but, once again, those in charge of the meeting were busy patting their Labradors while the race was on.

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Egmont Park Discontinued

https://harnesslink.com/australia/egmont-park-stud-discontinued/

Situated only 15 kilometres from Toowoomba City, the future of the Stud will remain as a Seymour family asset and will run initially black angus/wagyu cross cattle.
The only regret we have is that there are no members of our family who have an interest in horses to carry on the tradition.

It is hard to imagine Queensland racing without the Seymours

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Bondi Lockdown not going to Queensland - to remain at spell for longer

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A big night at Redcliffe tonight
Ripp first up in the Derby (be advised that R7 is at 7.41) and a quality Gp1 Gold Cup

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=RE250622#REM25062204

You need to tune in from 6.42 to catch Amore Vita in R5, then the 2yo Final, Derby & Cup

(Right from the Get-go there is plenty of Vic interest in R1 at 4.44)

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On the QLD tote Amore Vita paid $1 money back - I didn't know they could still do that - let you risk your money for zero return

Tim was a Trooper tonight but Ripp wasn't

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The local winner of The Sun will be in The Rising Sun

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP020722#APM02072201

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What is the story on the first starter in R10 the 2yo Paleface Adios Classic ?

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP020722#APM02072203

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Maybe it is correct as there is no trainer or driver listed
He was only exported to Oz less than 2 weeks ago
Thoughts with the owner if this has happened

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Now scratched (Ben Battle listed as trainer) so I fear the Horse Search info is correct

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The Rising Sun field
Interesting to see that Ideal Dan who was second in the Tk Rec trial last week is in the field but drawn badly in 7

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Here are all the fields
Going back to that incredible trial
We see the winner I Cast No Shadow ($3.10) in R6 v Spirit of St Louis ($2.30)
In the Sun consolation we see 3rd placed Bettor Isolate

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP090722

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PP has had a thorough look at the state of QLD harness this morning (his state)
He states that although QLD receives 12.2% of punting distribution but it now only has 8% of market share
8% is pathetic - I wonder how bad other states are going because 8% amounts to us as being irrelevant
QLD has had massive increases in prizemoney in the last 5yrs compared to VIC and NSW but unlike them it ran at a financial loss last year
QLD pays out over 80% of its revenue in prizemoney while VIC and NSW don't quite pay 50%

He says that the new demerged Tabcorp cannot meet their obligations under the 30yr deal that still has 20yrs to run
He thinks a new deal is being worked on now and that QLD harness that has not actually 'earnt' the increases to prizemoney will suffer

[Showgrounds]

A fair analysis.

[Messenger]

The Sun is up today
PP has knocked the quality of the race
But any race with Ladies In Red competing is special
To have her against the boys for the first time is extra special
For those boys to include Leap To Fame, Ripp, Beyond Delight, Ideal Dan, Better Eclipse
Makes it super special
Bondi Lockdown would have been a great addition but remember that BE has beaten him home in his last two and BD has been second behind him in two previous

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP090722#APM09072201

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Queensland must be doing something right for we don't even normally see a 'Harness' icon on the first line of the TAB menu, much less a specific race!

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As Fred said
"We have just witnessed greatness"
Ladies In Red

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP090722#APM09072201

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The Sunshine Sprint looks a cracker for Saturday night

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP160722#APM16072202

I Cast No Shadow in 1 is going to make for a hot pace after his record breaking trial Or can he be crossed?

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It is a fantastic card at Albion Park tomorrow night

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP160722

But their admin certainly seems to be in turmoil

The Herald Sun reports that Queensland’s leading metropolitan harness racing club has refused to stand down its CEO after he was charged with one count of rape and two counts of sexual assault, the state’s Racing Minister says.

https://harnesslink.com/australia/harness-racing-ceo-yet-to-be-stood-down-over-rape-allegations/

[Showgrounds]

A good novelty bet would be on how long it takes the APTC board to take the action it was directed to take last September and has stubbornly ignored. The racing minister has turned of the money tap and the industry faces serious consequences. Foolish.

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Queensland have certainly got friends at the TAB
Harness is normally just a subset of Racing and here they are first cab off the rank

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Long odds on favourites Amore Vita and Leap To Fame both beaten in the SE Oaks and Derby - yep it only 6 o'clock and they have both be run and won

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The favourites came good for the last 3 races but it was a massacre for the first 7

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP160722

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PP watched the Blacks A Fake draw on Sky2 today and is reporting that they forgot to shuffle the barrier cards before putting them on the table
By the time the 3rd lot of connections came up, people had twigged that if 4 was the fourth card and 2 was the second card on the table then they knew what to do and consequently selected in order 1, 3 , before Blacksadance's connections who had not twigged mucked up, then on it went 5, 6, .....
LOL

Here are all the fields for Saturday night

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP230722

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The TAB only has the markets up for the first 8 races at Albion Park tomorrow night
If they are right it reminds of the days when NZ came over and won everything worth winning in Vic
The markets have Vics favourite for the first 5 races then a Queenslander, followed by NSW horses for R7&8

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Leap To Fame is $2.25 fav for the Derby BUT barrier 11 has a 4% strike rate at Albion Park
I can see why Cantfindabettorman has come in from $4 to $2.50 since markets opened

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP230722#APM23072202

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There is not much between all 3 place-getters in R1 tonight, Beyond Delight won but Kashed Up and Captain Crusader were tougher runs. All threee were in the Rising Sun and are a tier below Ladies and probably Better Eclipse

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How good Soho Historia, 6 in a row for her since joining the Stewart stable and now a Gp1 winner
I bet Robert Watson wishes he didn't let this one go (won for him as a 2yo)

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Barrier draws and death seating mean nothing when you are as good as Leap To Fame

[aussiebreno]

Barrier draws and death seating mean nothing when you are as good as Leap To Fame

Massive run

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How good Soho Historia, 6 in a row for her since joining the Stewart stable and now a Gp1 winner
I bet Robert Watson wishes he didn't let this one go (won for him as a 2yo)

Thanks Cody (HRV) for getting this missing replay up for Soho Historia from 7 months ago

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MH071121#MHC07112108

Is this the same horse :confused:

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I'm a bit worried about the sponsor of a couple of races at the Brisbane Show today

[Theoldfox]

Reminded me of "The big dog" that was fast for his time (sub 1.50), perhaps they are telling us what happened to his progeny? Can't think of any winners from him off the top of my head.


https://youtu.be/8kzhYnLV5kU

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OH QLD
Can you think of anything so stupid (and less self-promoting) than naming a feature race after a cricketer

https://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=60342

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https://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=61225

It has to make it simple when you take two horses owned by the same connections, I am not suggesting anything untoward just saying that mapping out tactics has to be simpler
(Good luck Anne)

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Jason Grimson quinellas the Redcliffe Cup. PP hates him and has written a very exaggerated account of the race - nothing to see here. Loyalist is a ¾ bro to near millionaire Arden Rooney

A good 2nd by Aardie's Flash in the Derby, hey Trev - what has become of sister Aardie's Express over in NZ?

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=RE240623

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I can't say I look at Queensland other than their big meetings (too many hobbies) but I just/finally realized that they race for over $9k on Tuesdays too.
Victoria has the most meetings but QLD and NSW certainly have their pros

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PP makes what appears to be a valid point that GUS should not be in the $150k Gp1 Great Square on Saturday night
Look at the clip below - you will see NQ (not qualified) after his name for the mobile trial he had before his last start Stand win

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP080723#APM08072308

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The future of the Albion Park Harness Racing Club is uncertain as the Queensland Government paves the way for the Brisbane Olympics.

The Queensland Government has decided to close Albion Park in early 2025, leaving harness racing without a home for 18 months.

Brad Steele, Chairman of Albion Park Harness Racing Club, told Peter Gleeson on Drive, “I think we will see a complete collapse of the harness racing economic ecosystem within Queensland…”

“…To be quite honest I couldn’t see our industry surviving if we just had Redcliffe and Marburg…many of the owners of the better horses and the trotters will send their horses interstate, once they go interstate they don’t come back, it’s lost income,” Mr. Steele continued.

https://www.4bc.com.au/future-of-queensland-harness-racing-in-danger/

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They have all stood around and watched this happen. While there are plans for a new racing and training complex at Norwell (51 km south of Brisabane) that is all they are at this stage - plans.

They are a do-nothing lot in Queensland. The 2009 Inter-Dominion series was transferred from Albion Park to the Parklands (Gold Coast) due to serious structural flaws in AP's main grandstand being discovered and it subsequently being demolished. 14 years on and there is a "temporary judges' box and commentator's booth atop a scaffold opposite the finish line and the demolished stand has never been replaced.

Parklands was demolished 10 years ago for the development of the Commonwealth Games Village. A top 1000 metre track, it was never replaced and the trots on the Gold Coast ceased to exist. In the meantime, APHRC did some sweetheart deal transferring its ownership of Albion Park (for an amount I assume to be well under the market valuation). From that point forward, the Queensland Government and the City of Brisbane have wanted to shut down the track and sporting facilities for the 2032 Olympic Games on the site.

What is left of harness racing in Queensland? All North Queensland racing (Townsville, Cairns, Charters Towers, Mackay, Innisfail) closed years ago, as did the suburban track at Rocklea and another Gold Coast track at Tweed Heads. That leave the triangular track at Redcliffe - unchanged in layout since I first went there in 1978 - and rural Marburg (56 km west of Brisbane) as the remaining tracks. Marburg is devoid of most public facilities and the track is more akin to Victorian trialling clubs. For example, Kyabram would kill it for facilities. Marburg race predominately for $4,000 stakes.

Brad Steele's comments may well become reality. if so, who to blame? Have you got a mirror, Brad Steele?

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PP has written off Frankie Ferocious for The Rising Sun after his failure on Saturday
But I am not for before reading that he cast a plate I thought I noticed a hiccup in his action just before the 400m so I am wondering if that is where it happened, mind you I know nothing about these things and I am only watching a rather distant video replay.
Noting the fast Q3 I watched how he was flying down the back then he was actually gone before entering the straight

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP060724#APM06072406

[trish]

PP has written off Frankie Ferocious for The Rising Sun after his failure on Saturday
But I am not for before reading that he cast a plate I thought I noticed a hiccup in his action just before the 400m so I am wondering if that is where it happened, mind you I know nothing about these things and I am only watching a rather distant video replay.
Noting the fast Q3 I watched how he was flying down the back then he was actually gone before entering the straight

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP060724#APM06072406



I thought both FF & DA did not need to go so fast for that 3rd 1/3q . They both worked to get the lead , one more than the other but still. Trying to gas the rest , maybe.
As for the lost shoe......nah. But that's me unless he has sore feet.

[trish]

Read the stewards report & he must not have lost a shoe, sprung one, which is entirely different & apparently a stone was lodged in between, so that's an "ouch". That would pull you up.

[Messenger]

You need to be tuned in from 5.30 (R2) for what should be an absolutely FABULOUS night of racing at Albion Park
It is a pity that Bet N Win is a scratching from The Great Square but we cannot have everything - only just about everything

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP130724

[Messenger]

Wow, surely some questions need to be answered - Frankie was driven as if they knew he was never a chance

[trish]

https://harnesslink.com/australia/victorian-mare-dominant-in-the-great-square-2/

It was great to see David win, good on him.

[trish]

https://harnesslink.com/australia/young-couple-shine-in-345000-g1-event-2/

It was also terrific to see these guys win. They had a great night. Well done. Excellent.

[Messenger]

LTF a cert for the Sunshine Sprint

[Messenger]

I know Aardies Express has beaten her from outside the front line before BUT it is hard to go past Ladies

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Tune in from 7.10 for tonight's big races

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP200724

[trish]

Can anyone explain to me why in the Hayden at AP tonight, Charge Ahead got a run in front of Attachment??????????

[trish]

Add Hot Rod Harry to the last question

[Messenger]

Is it because Slot Holders choose their horse?

[trish]

Thanks Kev for your reply. I am not sure if that is the reason , but if not , really??
Maybe the handicappers can answer the question?
I would really like to know.

[trish]

Worse thing is , I sent an email to HRA about a query about another matter but NO reply.

Hopefully & that is A big hope , someone can explain from Qld HR about my concern about this race. It is NOT a $14 thousand race, it is $200+ thousand race.

[trish]

If you were a certain stable you would be rather UPSET now HRH is out of the Hayden.

[Messenger]

Aardies did not win but the big mare seemed to worry Ladies out of it - Ladies doesn't seem to be the Ladies of old and maybe she should call it a day while she is remembered as the absolute champion she is

[trish]

Agree Kev.
AE did ALL the work.

[trish]

And again, how does n jacks horse get a run in front of Rickie Alchins horse in the Protostar????

Is this a slot Kev???

[Messenger]

Yes :(

[Messenger]

Grimson has 5 runners in the BAF and draws 9, 10, 11, 12, 13
We are getting into 'Powerball Odds' of this happening - was it after this meet last year that he got into all the strife with the QLD authorities?

I don't know that 1 suits LTF but he will win

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP270724#APM27072401

[trish]

Yes :(

Ok. Thanks Kev.
I rest my case. Hahaha.

[trish]

Seriously. Could anyone , anyone draw 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13. It would be a million dollar chance in any lottery in the world to do that.


Is that the real draw???

[trish]

I sorta now hope Grimsom comes 1st, 2nd, 3rd , 4th & 5th.
With LTF deadheating for 1st. ��

[Messenger]

My days of knowing my maths are long gone but I think it may have been a 5 million to 1 chance
Looking on fb it would seem the Protostar was a televised draw so I am thinking The Blacks A Fake would have been too

[Messenger]

Another great night of racing coming up - tune in from 6.25 at the latest

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP270724

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Another shocker from Frankie Ferocious

[Messenger]

Fantastic runs by the Victorians from the death in both the Oaks and the Derby

[trish]

Good God, I think he may be better than the mighty EAFoot Dan.

What a champion is LTF

[Messenger]

It is ridiculous how much better he is than anyone else
Have they got anything coming through in NZ that could give him a contest?

[Messenger]

Despite sitting in the death, that was a trotters' Tk Rec to London To A Brick

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=AP270724