Ladies In Red

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Ladies In Red v Tough Tilly

I know being trained by the same stable has worked out for them both so far but if I was lucky enough to own either, there would be a side of me that wondered whether we might be better off in different stables

Certainly looking forward to them resuming their duel on Saturday night

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA180921#MXM18092106

I know very little about the 2 horses but after TT continued on from her 2yo season to have a crack at the NSW Oaks, followed a couple of months later for the lucrative target of the APG 3yo final, I can't help but wonder whether LIR is not going to better for the lighter program in the long run.

If it wasn't for the massive advantage of the draw in the Vicbred 2yo final, both fillies could have been on equal prizemoney right now, one having had 11 starts, the other 11 (a big IF, I know)

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Both set of connections would be happy with tonight's efforts

http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA180921#MXM18092106

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Ladies In Red has just completed her 2nd racing spell, September - December 31, virtually identical to last year, 10 races in 4 months racing then a long spell
How will she go in the 2022 season, no long spell (a short freshen up?) if she contests the Chariots Of Fire on Feb 19 (with the Hondo and Paleface in the 2wks leading up to it)
Does she want to take on Act Now, Bondi Lockdown, .....

ps Tough Tilly is off the scene for a while (fibrillation)
pps As well as the above boys, Ladies is yet to meet Anntonia

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If Ladies in Red won the Chariots she would be the first mare since Innocent Eyes in 2006
Innocent Eyes is the 2nd dam of Bondi Lockdown

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Surfing the net, as you do when you have the dreaded lurgy, I found this long clip of Ladies working the week before winning the Vicbred 3yo Final on New Years Eve last year
Interesting viewing with Clayton Tonkin driving/providing comments

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=461102145457223

[Bonnie]

Clayton won’t let anyone else drive her in trackwork.

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And here is the latest on the Lady from Adam Hamilton (and Bill and Anne)

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/hamilton/hamilton-slick-trial-has-ladies-in-red-primed-for-queensland/

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Hamilton: Ladies In Red's moment in the Sun validates greatness

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/hamilton/hamilton-ladies-in-reds-moment-in-the-sun-validates-greatness2/

Tonkin truly shocked me halfway through when asked just how good she was he said “she’s the best we’ve trained".
(This was pre Saturday)

HRV CEO Dayle Brown remarked after the win: “She just might be the horse harness racing has been waiting for.”

I would have to ask Dayle: "When are we going to make use of Ladies?"

There should be a Ladies In Red day ASAP for a big race she is in at Melton
Ladies wearing Red to all receive ...... (find appropriate sponsor)
A red clip art harness horse should feature in newspaper ads etc etc

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Ross: This mare might be the household name we've been craving

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/ross/ross-this-mare-might-be-the-household-name-weve-been-craving/

But what are we going to do to alert 'households', it cannot be the same old media haunts that only the rusted-on tune into
From very early in her career I suggested a Ladies In Red promo but it never happened

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Nikita is no doubt thinking about it as I went back and read her previous column

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/ross/ross-think-outside-the-square-to-grow-our-fan-base/

If we want to attract new fans to watch these incredible horses, we need to find ways to make the carnivals and racetrack experiences memorable to leave people eager to return.

On the back of Victoria developing the Aurora Australis series to reach the international trotting market, we need to keep being innovative and creative to generate hype and interest for these big races.

And the free-to-air coverage of the Hunter Cup earlier this year, which was consumed by plenty of self-confessed thoroughbred-only punters, proved that there is an appetite for people to get involved in harness racing.

Now we all need to work together to promote it so we win as a sport.

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/events/ladies-in-red/

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The promo was good, the T-shirts popular (I See Red, I See Red, I See Red) and the race was fantastic
Tilly is always going to be a massive mountain to conquer when she draws better, especially over a short trip and that was how it panned out

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The three magnificent mares from the Stewart stable will be at it again on Friday night
If anyone really got $16 or $18 about Treachery please post - I am skeptical that this ever happened

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Ladies will to win is almost scary

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The draw for the Gp1 Queen of the Pacific makes for an interesting race
Ladies gets the worst of it which seems to be the norm for her
Tilly should be able to work to the lead
and Treachery should get a nice running line spot
Ladies will no doubt work to the death and show her toughness
In that respect the 2760m suits
I wonder whether she will seek to control the pace early
or whether she might leave it a lap before going to the death

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Treachery was the early overs and has come in from $9.50 to $6.50
Kerryn Manning is listed to drive her
(I wonder what Chris Alford did to so fall out with the Stewart stable? I hope it isn't ageism. Maybe they will give him a drive in the 4&5yo Champs)

Ladies is Odds On

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Treachery is out of the Queen of the Pacific

[Bonnie]

Vincenzina is out too. Ladies into Barrier 9 , that might help her !

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That should be a big help Anne, she can settle in the running line early on without doing any work - Good Luck

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Ladies In Red is a diamond - the toughest natural material on earth, draws the second line as usual and cops backwash early on but is unfazed and produces yet again
26 starts for 21 wins and 5 seconds
6 Gp1 wins, 2 Gp1 seconds, 2 Gp2 wins, 1 Gp3 win

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I think $4.60 is pretty short when she is untested burning the candle at both ends. As impressive as last week the breakdown of splits was perfect for a fast time. Not sure she gets that with Tough Tillys gates speed and Ladiesinred ability from the chair. Perhaps her presence in the race helps Ladiesinred though, who doesn't have a good head to head record when Tough Tilly gets an easy lead. Solid no bet race for me.

Her presence in the race certainly helped. Tilly got out too late to be any major threat.

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Can you believe that one of the minor races on Saturday night is Ladies v Tilly again

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX191122#MXM19112202

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There is absolutely zero doubt as to who is the better filly now (was there any?)
There can be days when another has a better draw and is 100% when she might be only 95% (she is an animal not a machine) and she might get beat
22 out of 27 times that is not going to happen
What leaves me shaking my head is the fact that for the other 5 she has not finished worse than 2nd

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Ladies In Red out for a few months

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/watch-emma-gives-latest-on-ladies-in-reds-injury/

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/hamilton/hamilton-dont-worry-ladies-in-red-will-be-back-at-the-track/

Is this the last we heard about both of them?

According to this article at least School Captain should have been back long ago (it has now been a year)

He has been racing!

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https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the-forum/hamilton/hamilton-dont-worry-ladies-in-red-will-be-back-at-the-track/

Is this the last we heard about both of them?

According to this article at least School Captain should have been back long ago (it has now been a year)

School Captain has been racing.

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I missed that my Riverina Man (and missed Ballarat's first couple on Wednesday:eek:)

Will amend thread/merge with Ladies thread

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School Captain has been racing.

I know this is the wrong thread BUT what happened to School Captain on Wednesday?!!!
Dream run through to 1x1
Does he not like rain?
Has he decided 1740m Riverina racing is as far as he wants to go?
Very strange

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=BA300823#BAC30082302

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I don't expect her to win first up on Saturday but as the stable has 8 of the 10 starters, if she is favourite you would think that she must

https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fields/race-fields/?mc=MX141023#MXM14102305

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Ladies In Red is into $1.45

WOW

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Hopefully there were not as many gallops punters onboard Ladies as the presenters are suggesting as they are as used to $1.50 pops being beaten as they are earthquakes
They were silly odds - hopefully in the blustery conditions she just ran out of condition.
I had a nibble at Petillante as $34 was a cheaper interest than Ladies odds - never even considered who might be on Petillante's back

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Who would have thought Stewart wouldn't have won that Mares race.

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The Lady is probably as good a mare as I have ever seen

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The champion mare has been retired

https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/articles/motherhood-beckons-as-curtain-falls-on-ladies-in-reds-career/