Darrel Trips up Lanercost, doh!!!

[Maorisidol]

Watch the replay of Menangle today where Lanercost comes off Mr Feelgoods back, u can see his sulky wheel is tracking in what is probably the tyre marks of the Mobile Barrier at the top of the straight, then he must drift in close to a foot and subsequently hits Luke's sulky and gallops to last.
An expensive horse to b losing concentration on????
It did happen quite quickly but golly I reckon he'd b a bit embarrased.

[David Summers]

Horrible drive in the straight. I hope Lanercost is OK. Travelling at top speed and coming to a sudden fault like that can cause all sorts of problems.

Hello , Mr. Graham , the Menangle straight can fit fifteen horses across the track side by side. No need to drive into the back of the leader. BTW, I am a big fan of both horses , but was rather surprised at the late betting drift of Lanercost.

[Trotter]

Do use actually watch the races or too busy typing crap on here??? Feelgood shifted out up the straight plain as day.
Watch replay again

[Trotter]

Will be interesting stewards report on that one.

[ringman]

Do use actually watch the races or too busy typing crap on here??? Feelgood shifted out up the straight plain as day.
Watch replay again

Never moved a inch;) Lanercost layed in and nothing will be done unless they have the same opinion as people who dont watch the race typing crap on here:p

[Trotter]

Wake up Greg try watching the marker pegs if it makes it easier for you, lanercost was laying in slightly but if you can honestly watch the replay and not say feelgood ran out then you need glasses

[ringman]

no glasses needed and no case to answer it was Lanercosts doing

[Trotter]

After watching head on I don't think lanercost laid in I think Darryl trailed his wheel for a bit and at that time feel good ran out a bit. No fault too Luke but Darryl never run up a wheel. Try watching head on Greg too see feel good come out

[peteboss4]

Trots TV has it in slow motion. Feelgood ran out.

[mightymo]

Ive watched the replay about 20 times now and Im still not sure who caused it. I reckon Feelgood shifted out slightly but Lanercost also shifted in slightly. The 2 minor movements at the same time were enough unfortunately...

[ringman]

look again boys and watch Lanercost come in half a bike from the turn until he runs into the back of MFG. Graham pushed Todd into the markers before any incident took place.

If Luke gets any time for the drive i will get a real job

[A BIT DUSTY]

I think you all should go to SPECSAVERS fair dinkum Iv'e just watched the replay for the first time and it is as clear as day that D Graham looks down to pull the deafeners and allows his horse to duck in ,even if Feelgood comes out slightly it's D Grahams responsibilty to steer his horse , PS I;m a D Graham fan ,but that was one of his worst.

[ringman]

There is a man who actually watches races and see whats going on.

[A BIT DUSTY]

There is a man who actually watches races and see whats going on.

Thanks GREG Just had another look , and if you watch closely you will see D.Graham has both reins in one hand just as the contact is made and quickly grabs a rein in each hands to correct his horse

[Gtrain]

That drive was as bad as the feeling I got in my stomach when I realised agree with Denny and Ringman hahahah.

[A BIT DUSTY]

That drive was as bad as the feeling I got in my stomach when I realised agree with Denny and Ringman hahahah.

There is a first for every thing Grant , Cheers Mate

[Danno]

I think you all should go to SPECSAVERS fair dinkum Iv'e just watched the replay for the first time and it is as clear as day that D Graham looks down to pull the deafeners and allows his horse to duck in ,even if Feelgood comes out slightly it's D Grahams responsibilty to steer his horse , PS I;m a D Graham fan ,but that was one of his worst.

Bloody shame, but i have to agree with dusty, there was a little shift offf the fence ( sorry pegs), but there's no doubt,IMO that the shift inwards fom the
other horse had more to do with the outcome more than any thing else.

lets call tiny and see if we can't get this horse in Lukes Yard!!!

[A BIT DUSTY]

Bloody shame, but i have to agree with dusty, there was a little shift offf the fence ( sorry pegs), but there's no doubt,IMO that the shift inwards fom the
other horse had more to do with the outcome more than any thing else.

lets call tiny and see if we can't get this horse in Lukes Yard!!!

What are you doing up this late Dan I thought you went to bed with Big Dog ha ha ha ha

[triplev123]

...about that race.
They received only 6 acceptances and went with it anyway.
It's hard enough as it is to get a start with a horse that's graded at that level without also being subject to the whole bullshit routine that comes from the NSWTAB re: 'full fields'.
Mega Alexander scratched and the gate folded back with 5 starters...good for the NSWHRC for pressing on, regardless. Full marks. I hope this will extend to other races where similar 'somewhat less than a full field' issues are experienced now & again such as the fillies & mares races, some early 2yo events etc. Sometimes all these grades need is a little encouragement that the race will roll even if there are less than ideal noms. Amazing how many will come out of the woodwork once they see the races have stood up.

[Jimmy]

Watch the replay in slow mo , Darrel reachs down to pull the plugs with his left hand, Lanercost does shift in at that moment, also worth noting that Lanercost is wearing a murphy blind on the nearside as well, which tells us all that he will hang in a touch. Also on the head on, Luke does drift out a fraction, just before contact, but it is only a fraction.
On the slow mo Lanercost near side knee makes a lot of contact with Lukes syder bike, then he lands awkwardly on his off side leg.
Darrel should of gave him self a little bit more room.

[Flashing Red]

Ive watched the replay about 20 times now and Im still not sure who caused it. I reckon Feelgood shifted out slightly but Lanercost also shifted in slightly. The 2 minor movements at the same time were enough unfortunately...

I agree. Sad both minor incidents happened in the same second.

[Thevoiceofreason]

I agree. Sad both minor incidents happened in the same second.

As they say thats racing

[Old Frank]

Some slight shifting in when grabbing at the ear plugs, some slight shifting out by the lead horse, but fact stands that it wasn't a D.Graham master drive by any means, he was too close to McCarthy on MFG trying to pull the deafners when the horses were already at max. speed charging down the lane.

Totally mis-judged his run and with 5 in the field, had more than ample room to be another half-cart away making his run.

Never rated him as a driver and that effort only confirmed it yet again for me.

[A BIT DUSTY]

YOUR ALL MISSING THE CRUCIAL THING].[/B]..about that race.
They received only 6 acceptances and went with it anyway.
It's hard enough as it is to get a start with a horse that's graded at that level without also being subject to the whole bullshit routine that comes from the NSWTAB re: 'full fields'.
Mega Alexander scratched and the gate folded back with 5 starters...good for the NSWHRC for pressing on, regardless. Full marks. I hope this will extend to other races where similar 'somewhat less than a full field' issues are experienced now & again such as the fillies & mares races, some early 2yo events etc. Sometimes all these grades need is a little encouragement that the race will roll even if there are less than ideal noms. Amazing how many will come out of the woodwork once they see the races have stood up.

Jaimie

I hate to be an antagonist BUT how are we all missing theTHING .
The wholeTHING/B]t of this thread was the incident between Mr Feelgood and Lanorcost
Not the pros and cons of the NSWHRC Handicapping policy. I think you will find they are two separate[B] THINGS

[Maorisidol]

Jaimie

I hate to be an antagonist BUT how are we all missing theTHING .
The wholeTHING/B]t of this thread was the incident between Mr Feelgood and Lanorcost
Not the pros and cons of the NSWHRC Handicapping policy. I think you will find they are two separate[B] THINGS

Gotta agree with u there Denny, i dont understand why one would want to jump in a thread that's on a roll and totally try and take it in a totally new direction with a totally new topic, maybe Jaimie u could start a new thread about it?

And Tiny, on reflection have u watched the video of the race again and maybe now changed your mind just a little?
Do u still think Graham was not at fault AT ALL?????????
Watch his outside wheel running in the car tracks and see how far it moves in (as mentioned in my initial post, u may have missed it...)