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Messenger
02-12-2012, 02:13 PM
Race 9 on the Terang Cup program was only for a stake of $1500 in total. The Vic Tab alone held over $50,000 on the race. In so many sports we have seen marked salary increases as players demand their fair share as they are the ones who put on the show. Is this any different?

p plater
02-12-2012, 02:38 PM
Totally agree, add costs of drivers fee, trainers transport etc and any owner would be happy to compete in this type of race....I think not.
All races need appearance money for the starters, after all isn't there a BIG court case over race fields legistrations which the clubs want a share of turnover but they forget who supplies the runners to make up these race fields.

barney
02-12-2012, 03:10 PM
Can remember when restricted meeting prizemoney was $100 per race.

Mighty Atom
02-12-2012, 03:37 PM
Can remember when restricted meeting prizemoney was $100 per race.

Hi Brian, yes I was looking through an old York Trotting Club book (W.A.) as they called pacing back in those days and noticed most of the races were for 200 dollars - unbelievable. With regards to the Terang race being worth 1500 dollars this would surely have to be the exception and not the rule. During my many years involved in harness racing I've kept race books, newspaper cuttings etc and you can see to what extent stakemoney increased during the decades.Looking at this and considering the huge costs involved now in owning a pacer I would say we are definitely behind. One thing that was noticeable in the old race books was the absence of syndicate ownership compared to today, another indication of rising costs.

David Summers
02-12-2012, 03:51 PM
Sadly , if you race your horses in South Australia , $1500 seems to often be the norm. Have a look at this card for instance , for next Tuesday night at Globe Derby http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=GD140212&fromstate=sa

Harness racing in SA seems to be really in the doldrums as are all racing codes in that state.

broncobrad
02-12-2012, 04:39 PM
Sadly , if you race your horses in South Australia , $1500 seems to often be the norm. Have a look at this card for instance , for next Tuesday night at Globe Derby http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=GD140212&fromstate=sa

Harness racing in SA seems to be really in the doldrums as are all racing codes in that state.

Scratching my head why the connections of Repelem in the last on that program and the winner of 26 from 39 races and placed on 9 other occassions for prizemoney of over $140,000 would persist in racing in that state. I can only think they have a terriffic loyalty to S.A harness or they just want to watch her compete in their own backyard and are content to race for peanuts. I really feel for particpants in S.A .

Jimmy Jaques always portrays the racing in a very exciting manner.

David Summers
02-12-2012, 04:55 PM
Yes, I agree , Jimmy Jaques is a fine caller who really puts a lot of excitement and energy into his calls. No matter how minor the race many calls sound like he is calling an Interdominion final :-)

TSW
02-12-2012, 05:08 PM
Sadly , if you race your horses in South Australia , $1500 seems to often be the norm. Have a look at this card for instance , for next Tuesday night at Globe Derby http://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=GD140212&fromstate=sa

Harness racing in SA seems to be really in the doldrums as are all racing codes in that state.

Greyhounds at Angle Park on a Monday night race for $1640. Cost nothing to feed them too

David Summers
02-12-2012, 05:15 PM
Greyhounds at Angle Park on a Monday night race for $1640. Cost nothing to feed them too

Also no gear costs , no driver costs , no transport costs, no shoeing costs etc. Plus you can buy a well bred young dog for under $1000.

Makes you wonder why harness folk in SA bother. Just the love of the game I guess.

G-Mac
02-14-2012, 02:04 PM
Very cheap to spell a dog too. If you have a couch you have a greyhound spelling paddock!

David Summers
02-14-2012, 02:35 PM
Very cheap to spell a dog too. If you have a couch you have a greyhound spelling paddock!

Very clever http://www.postsmile.net/img/19/1968.gif (http://www.postsmile.com/)

broncobrad
02-14-2012, 11:21 PM
Repelem overcomes difficultys to land the lions share of the $1,500 (thats right $1,500) prizemoney on offer as a 3's on fav in the last at Globe tonight. So much effort for so little reward. Brave little mare now takes her record to 27 wins from 40 starts.

They were probably playing for more down the road at the local bingo hall.

Messenger
02-14-2012, 11:44 PM
I cannot find the pools for that race but if we were to say that we would like the stakes to be somewhere in the vicinty of 10% of the pools, is it a possibility that they did not hold 15,000 on this race (such a short fav would not help this either)?

broncobrad
02-15-2012, 12:00 AM
I cannot find the pools for that race but if we were to say that we would like the stakes to be somewhere in the vicinty of 10% of the pools, is it a possibility that they did not hold 15,000 on this race (such a short fav would not help this either)?

Hey Messenger, can only give you NSW totes which includes all pools Win, Place, Doubles Quaddies etc and the grand total was $16,397.

Add that to all other pools and throw in the Corporates. I reckon someones dipping out here and reckon that would be Repelems owners.

Messenger
02-15-2012, 01:04 AM
You're not wrong Brad. If NSW alone held that much! Pretty poor Vic results gives you pools for Vic but abbreviated results for Globe Derby.

broncobrad
05-05-2012, 02:46 AM
Thought Repelems effort in the Empire Vicbred 4YO's Final at Melton tonight in running second was a great reward for this gallant little SA mare. Of her 45 career starts, that was only her fourth in Vic. Would love to see the Hryhorecs take her over the border a bit more often, atleast she is racing for prizemoney worthy enough of her ability. Gutsy little thing she is.

Triple V
05-05-2012, 01:27 PM
Very classy. She fronts up and gives of her best every time she steps out. Comes from a family that Ron Croghan imported from NZ back in the early 1960's.