View Full Version : Should Qinny be favorite for Inter Final
p plater
02-26-2012, 02:12 PM
Just looking at all the heats results and putting some margins to it from race times, maybe ITMQ has had a dream run and looks outstanding in the process.
Based on the best times of the heats and using ITMQ winning times, the result is
Heats over 1700m beaten 31.5m
Heats over 2100m beaten 42m
Heats over 2500m beaten 31.5m
Obviously each race is different but would his finishing burst been as good if he was on the pace, they are big margins.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:15 PM
Yes because unlike everything else he's not out of business from a poor draw.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:16 PM
Yes because unlike everything else he's not out of business from a poor draw.
But should be draw 9 and Smoken Up 1, well No he won't be the FAV.
mightymo
02-26-2012, 02:20 PM
As long he as he doesnt draw 1, Quinny will start fav and will win IMO
aussiebreno
02-26-2012, 02:21 PM
Yes, at every oppurtunity I've said ITMQ will win the final and I still think that now.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:24 PM
why can't ITMQ draw 1 and lead throughout?
aussiebreno
02-26-2012, 02:25 PM
Just looking at all the heats results and putting some margins to it from race times, maybe ITMQ has had a dream run and looks outstanding in the process.
Based on the best times of the heats and using ITMQ winning times, the result is
Heats over 1700m beaten 31.5m
Heats over 2100m beaten 42m
Heats over 2500m beaten 31.5m
Obviously each race is different but would his finishing burst been as good if he was on the pace, they are big margins.
He ran in differently run races. If anything thats a bonus he hasn't been busted.
Before coming over for the Miracle Mile he sprinted a 1.54 over the 2100m. That would beat everything from the heats putting a margin on time ran.
WA Cup over 2500m he ran 1.55.9 only Mr Feelgood went faster. Freo Cup over 2900 he ran 1.56.5.
He can sprint of fast first halves dont you worry about that P Plater. Just because he hasn't had to in the heats doesn't mean he has lost it.
Deserved favourite.
mightymo
02-26-2012, 02:26 PM
he wouldnt be able to cop the pressure from SU and still finish off.
If you ask the hall camp, thats the one barrier they dont want
aussiebreno
02-26-2012, 02:27 PM
why can't ITMQ draw 1 and lead throughout?
Because a) he will get stuck the pegs or b) like he was busted out in the Miracle Mile it isn't his go.
He could still win, but wouldn't be taking the $2.10 on offer now. Any draw from 2-9 I think $2.10 is still backable.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:31 PM
http://www.harness.org.au/video/wa/GPM21101106.wmv
Check this out. That horse is far from one dimensional. Drives like the Miracle Mile were a brain fart from Jr.
aussiebreno
02-26-2012, 02:36 PM
http://www.harness.org.au/video/wa/GPM21101106.wmv
Check this out. That horse is far from one dimensional. Drives like the Miracle Mile were a brain fart from Jr.
He won't have Fast Play and Aussie Reactor chasing him though he will have Feelgood and Auckland Reactor.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:41 PM
Yeah he was in the death in 54 flat off a 27 Q2 and still finished off in 58. whats he going to do from the ace. I'll take $3 from 1, mail me if that happens : )
aussiebreno
02-26-2012, 02:42 PM
Yeah he was in the death in 54 flat off a 27 Q2 and still finished off in 58. whats he going to do from the ace. I'll take $3 from 1, mail me if that happens : )
That's what I mean. He is $2.10 currently and I'd take that from 2-9. But from #1 I'd be wanting better odds eg $3.
Harold Parker
02-26-2012, 02:46 PM
As for being pressured by Smoken Up if he led. They wouldn't kill their chances on Smoken Up trying to beat one horse. When Smoken Up has parked for his big wins eg outside Blackie in the Miracle Mile he was rated. Sushi Sushi worked for the better part of a lap at Ballarat before Smoken Up who trailed through nice got to his outside and tried to eyeball him. How did that work out ? If you've the draw to lead a race like the ID with a horse like ITMQ you don't look back.
broncobrad
02-27-2012, 12:28 AM
Hey Robert, I hope ITMQ starts a very short fav, it will be nice to actually back Smoken Up for the first time in the whole series. Haven't looked at the market yet but I reckon Smoken Up will be around 5/2
aussiebreno
02-27-2012, 09:18 AM
Hey Robert, I hope ITMQ starts a very short fav, it will be nice to actually back Smoken Up for the first time in the whole series. Haven't looked at the market yet but I reckon Smoken Up will be around 5/2
For the young ones that is $3.50 right? He is $2.80 in some places, $2.70 in others.
broncobrad
02-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Yep Brendan, thats correct.
The Form Student
02-27-2012, 01:32 PM
As for being pressured by Smoken Up if he led. They wouldn't kill their chances on Smoken Up trying to beat one horse. When Smoken Up has parked for his big wins eg outside Blackie in the Miracle Mile he was rated. Sushi Sushi worked for the better part of a lap at Ballarat before Smoken Up who trailed through nice got to his outside and tried to eyeball him. How did that work out ? If you've the draw to lead a race like the ID with a horse like ITMQ you don't look back.
I doubt they will go forward on ITMQ, there will be enough jostling for positions by the horses drawn inside.......SU has to go forward at the start, ITMQ will ease early, and hopefully cut a couple out, and sit one out, waiting to pounce.......like a "nuclear warhead".......
Harold Parker
02-27-2012, 02:53 PM
I doubt they will go forward on ITMQ, there will be enough jostling for positions by the horses drawn inside.......SU has to go forward at the start, ITMQ will ease early, and hopefully cut a couple out, and sit one out, waiting to pounce.......like a "nuclear warhead".......
That was an old post before the draw when guys were debating ITMQ from PP1. Mr Feelgood has it and he's going to lead throughout.
The Form Student
02-27-2012, 03:05 PM
That was an old post before the draw when guys were debating ITMQ from PP1. Mr Feelgood has it and he's going to lead throughout.
I hope he holds the lead, it will make ITMQ'S task easier!
broncobrad
03-01-2012, 03:13 PM
For the young ones that is $3.50 right? He is $2.80 in some places, $2.70 in others.
See fixed odds have got my old mate Smoken Up at $3.50 today which is what I thought he should have been. Time to start investing.
Harold Parker
03-01-2012, 10:57 PM
See fixed odds have got my old mate Smoken Up at $3.50 today which is what I thought he should have been. Time to start investing.
$4.5 @ Betfair. $4.40 @ Centrebet from memory.
aussiebreno
03-01-2012, 11:06 PM
$4.5 @ Betfair. $4.40 @ Centrebet from memory.
Link to betfair? I've looked a few times today but has come up market closed where I'm looking.
Harold Parker
03-02-2012, 02:15 AM
Link to betfair? I've looked a few times today but has come up market closed where I'm looking.
The search menu won't help you. Now that we've gone by midnight in the East, Gloucester Park is listed in the racing menu. $4.70 is available atm.
doncht
05-27-2015, 07:39 PM
I think that this was just a poor draw. Nice if they can do something about this in the future though. https://imagicon.info/cat/10-3/smile4.png
Messenger
05-27-2015, 08:50 PM
I think I found your watch Don ;)
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