Palais Du Louvre scores- congrats Paul & Luke

[Triple V]

Only just back in the land of the living & saw that Palais Du Louvre won at Melton last night. Congrats to Paul, Luke & family. Some good scalps there fellas, Suave Stuey Lombo, Keyang Cullen & so on. Well done.

[Greg Hando]

Good onya's Paul and Luke well done oh and the family as well .

[Toohard]

Thanks Jaimie and Thanks Greg.

Thought he might be out of his class but he stepped up again. We were sort of hoping the race would pan out like it did coz we knew if he was close on the turn he'd be in it. He's only small but he's all heart and we are yet again very, very proud of him. All the breaks went his way and he just got there but he's been beaten a few times like that so reckon it was just his turn. Anytime we can go to the races and be a chance and can yell for our horse is a good time I reckon.

Yet another superb drive by Scott Dyer.

And Leigh Miles training performance... absolutely outstanding!! That's countless hours and hours of his work and he's a marvel too.

"Where we go next Lukey?"
"Maybe we skip the Interdom and just concentrate on the Miracle Mile dad?"
"Good plan Lukey":rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Go Yun...

[broncobrad]

Aim for the stars Luke. Good on you guys, this fella is providing lots of fun for you, enjoy the ride. Well done...and the 23/1 up here was tasty too.

Another good run on Friday night at Melton was National Gallery, another forum contributors horse scoring a great win. Nice work.

[Bonnie]

Thanks Brad. National Gallery is doing an awesome job for an unsound mare. She has now had 21 starts for 10 wins 6 seconds 3thirds a fourth and a fifth. She has a huge heart and never fails to disappoint. Wish we had more like her. She is by Artsplace and we will use a recipient mare to get her in foal to RNRHANOVER this season, might as well race her as long as she stays sound. Two of our Artsplace mares have 2year old colts by RNRHanover and both are showing promise although it's early days yet. Both mares are in foal to him again this year. I was at the LBJ and National Gallery won twice, maybe it's a good excuse to holiday more often !

[doinmabest]

Congratz Guys.....Enjoy the ride.....See you here in April by the sounds of it...:)

[Toohard]

Congratz Guys.....Enjoy the ride.....See you here in April by the sounds of it...:)

Thanks Fred. We'll be up in March first. Lukey had me taking the entire months of March\April off next year and emigrating to NSW for them. But he's settled on 2 trips up. He's got it all planned re Interdom final weekend. Albury trots on the way up Saturday night, Menangle Interdom on Sunday and Goulburn on the way home Monday.

[Mark Croatto]

Thanks Fred. We'll be up in March first. Lukey had me taking the entire months of March\April off next year and emigrating to NSW for them. But he's settled on 2 trips up. He's got it all planned re Interdom final weekend. Albury trots on the way up Saturday night, Menangle Interdom on Sunday and Goulburn on the way home Monday.

Good on you Paul, hope he keeps the ride going for you guys. It's not an Inter Dominion Final but we'll be having the Tom Hewitt Memorial Final at Goulburn on the Monday. Be sure to drop into the Secretary's Office and say g'day, it's on the race day stable side of the old stand.

Regards

Mark

[Toohard]

Good on you Paul, hope he keeps the ride going for you guys. It's not an Inter Dominion Final but we'll be having the Tom Hewitt Memorial Final at Goulburn on the Monday. Be sure to drop into the Secretary's Office and say g'day, it's on the race day stable side of the old stand.

Regards

Mark

Thanks Mark. Is that you we saw on list of nominees for an award on HRNSW awards night? If so good luck!! Cheers

[mango]

Hi Paul

The apg sale is on the day before the inter aswell.

[aussiebreno]

Paul, what everybody wants to know is where do you get a Mrs Humphreys from?

[Mark Croatto]

Thanks Mark. Is that you we saw on list of nominees for an award on HRNSW awards night? If so good luck!! Cheers

G'day Paul,

Yep, that's me. I didn't know there was a list out; where did you see it?

Regards

Mark

[Toohard]

G'day Paul,

Yep, that's me. I didn't know there was a list out; where did you see it?

Regards

Mark

This weeks Harness Racing Weekly (page 63). Cheers

[Toohard]

Paul, what everybody wants to know is where do you get a Mrs Humphreys from?
:D:D
She doesn't take a lot of convincing for us to disappear for a few days.

Reckons it's the only time harness racing isn't the dinner topic and she gets to sit down at night and watch something other than Sky channel on telly.

[Toohard]

Thanks Brad. National Gallery is doing an awesome job for an unsound mare. She has now had 21 starts for 10 wins 6 seconds 3thirds a fourth and a fifth. She has a huge heart and never fails to disappoint. Wish we had more like her. She is by Artsplace and we will use a recipient mare to get her in foal to RNRHANOVER this season, might as well race her as long as she stays sound. Two of our Artsplace mares have 2year old colts by RNRHanover and both are showing promise although it's early days yet. Both mares are in foal to him again this year. I was at the LBJ and National Gallery won twice, maybe it's a good excuse to holiday more often !

Gday Mrs Anderson. Another big run again last night. Thought you were going to get there half way down the straight. She did you proud again. Excuse my ignorance but my son has a question I couldn't answer (again). He said it was about breeding but didn't mention horses at the time so sent shudders through me! Question about recipient mares so said would ask someone who is sure to know. Does National Gallery actually get in foal before the transfer is done? Or do they transfer the unfertilised eggs to the recipient mare and serve her? Cheers

[teecee]

To answer your boy's query...
The donor mare (National Gallery) is served with the stallion's semen via AI.
The donor mare's egg is then fertilised by this semen inside the donor mare.
After 15 days with a positive pregnancy test of the donor mare the fertilised egg inside the uterus of the donor mare is flushed out through a filter into a petrie dish. The fertilised egg (foetus) located using a microscope (one of the most amazing sights I have been privileged, in my view to see) is then inserted into the recipient mare who will carry the foetus foal to full term and birth of a wonderful foal. The recipient mare then nurses and cares for the foal to weaning before fading from the scene so to speak.
The foal's breeding and DNA is that of the stallion and the donor mare.

Good luck in explaining the details to your son but that is the process of successful Embryo Transfer.
Cheers

[Bonnie]

Hi Paul
Thanks for your comments re our girl, she certainly does her best and has pulled up well. She has gone from C0 to M3 in 10 months . Looks like we will have to go up against the boys again next week; she needs the racing. Hoping the mares race at Melton on Nov30 stands up . Should have gone to Menangle ; 5 in the mares race there last night. Can' t get away with the mares foaling ,12 on the ground 2 to go. We have 3 recipient mares with foals and they are all good ( all Sbred mares ) . Teecee 's explanation of the embryo transfer process was spot on except we flush the donor mare 6 days after she is served. NG was flushed 10 days ago and there is now a healthy embryo in a recipient mare. We are using 4 recipient mares this year .Love the breeding season , another 2weeks and it will be time to start the yearling prep for the APG Sales in Melbourne.

[mightymo]

To answer your boy's query...
The donor mare (National Gallery) is served with the stallion's semen via AI.
The donor mare's egg is then fertilised by this semen inside the donor mare.
After 15 days with a positive pregnancy test of the donor mare the fertilised egg inside the uterus of the donor mare is flushed out through a filter into a petrie dish. The fertilised egg (foetus) located using a microscope (one of the most amazing sights I have been privileged, in my view to see) is then inserted into the recipient mare who will carry the foetus foal to full term and birth of a wonderful foal. The recipient mare then nurses and cares for the foal to weaning before fading from the scene so to speak.
The foal's breeding and DNA is that of the stallion and the donor mare.

Good luck in explaining the details to your son but that is the process of successful Embryo Transfer.
Cheers

TC

I stand to be corrected, but Im pretty certain 15 days is too late for an embryo flush. It is generally done at 7-8 days.

[aussiebreno]

Just too make it clear, fanboys are just fans, not groupies or anything like that, and don't get involved in the breeding side of things.

Also, in general, what sort of prize-money would a mare have to earn in the 12 months to make it feasible?

[Bonnie]

It depends on your choice of stallion and how much you wish to spend on a service fee. If I am using a recipient mare I always select a highly credentialed stallion . Rocknroll Hanovers service fee is $11000. Vet fees for scanning , testing etc and embryo retrieval ,placement in recipient mare and the continuation of her pregnancy is approx$1000.
When the recipient mare has held the pregnancy for 42 days she becomes the responsibility of the of the donor mares owner. I then pay $2200 to ' rent' the mare for 18 months from our Vet. Because we have our own farm our costs for looking after the mare are minimal. I do not consider it an expensive exercise to obtain an early foal from a good racemare or from a mare that can not carry a foal full term.

[aussiebreno]

It depends on your choice of stallion and how much you wish to spend on a service fee. If I am using a recipient mare I always select a highly credentialed stallion . Rocknroll Hanovers service fee is $11000. Vet fees for scanning , testing etc and embryo retrieval ,placement in recipient mare and the continuation of her pregnancy is approx$1000.
When the recipient mare has held the pregnancy for 42 days she becomes the responsibility of the of the donor mares owner. I then pay $2200 to ' rent' the mare for 18 months from our Vet. Because we have our own farm our costs for looking after the mare are minimal. I do not consider it an expensive exercise to obtain an early foal from a good racemare or from a mare that can not carry a foal full term.
Thanks for that Bonnie. Sure sounds like a viable option for the better mares.

I note the rent is for 18 months. Does this mean that mare can only 1 foal every two years. Or possibly you could rent for 2 x 18 months and get 2 foals in 3 years?

[teecee]

TC

I stand to be corrected, but Im pretty certain 15 days is too late for an embryo flush. It is generally done at 7-8 days.

No i stand corrected. Didnt read wot i wrote. Shud be 7 days as Anne said..apologies.I

[Toohard]

Mrs Anderson, TC and Harvey. Thank you for your help. Cheers

[Bonnie]

The recipient mare is returned to the Vet once the foal is weaned , hence the period of approx 18 months . You are correct in saying that the recipient mare has one foal every 2years , however the Vet has a herd of over 100 mares to choose from. If I wish to breed NG next year using a recipient another suitable mare will be supplied from the herd at the start of the season.

[aussiebreno]

Cheers Bonnie thought that may have been the case.

[ARTOFFICIAL]

The recipient mare is returned to the Vet once the foal is weaned , hence the period of approx 18 months . You are correct in saying that the recipient mare has one foal every 2years , however the Vet has a herd of over 100 mares to choose from. If I wish to breed NG next year using a recipient another suitable mare will be supplied from the herd at the start of the season.

Seven Creeks Equine Anne?

[Bonnie]

Yes.

[The Form Student]

Palais Du Louvre is expected to get a call up for MM after breaking the track record at Melton tomorrow night! That is the word from its owner!

[Toohard]

Palais Du Louvre is expected to get a call up for MM after breaking the track record at Melton tomorrow night! That is the word from its owner!


Yes. Just looked out the window and it's all falling into place...