mildura Trots

[3 back the fence]

Did anyone see race 2 at mildura tuesday night? I backed lifeshortgohard the driver never gave it any chance and the stewards let him off. no wonder the turn around on trots is no where near the gallops. teacherspet@stewardslovedasher.com.au:mad:

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

Perhaps you should be venting your spleen at the driver of the 35/1 shot who refused to hand up the death and then proceeded to drop out. Did he get any time?

[aussiebreno]

Perhaps you should be venting your spleen at the driver of the 35/1 shot who refused to hand up the death and then proceeded to drop out. Did he get any time?
Yeah, this. 99/100 drivers would have relinquished the death. Dasher done the right thing once it became clear the death wasn't there, yes he covers more ground out 3 wide, but going back he would have had to make up that ground plus more.
Maybe for the owners/trainers going back and thinking about next week would have been the right thing, but for punters he done the right thing.

[Gtrain]

The drive on Royal Verdict last night at Shep was far far worse. As far as lacking ingenuity goes, it was one of the worst of all time.

[broncobrad]

I saw it the same as brenno. Not one of his best. Usually Douglas comes out hummin and signals his intent nice and early. I don't think he was expecting the death horse to kick up like it did. But if everyone just handed up without a contest it would get pretty boring after a while. Don't think it was crook, just a so so drive that got what it deserved.

[aussiebreno]

The drive on Royal Verdict last night at Shep was far far worse. As far as lacking ingenuity goes, it was one of the worst of all time.

That horse has been subject to a few bad drives in the past.

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

Correct. And still the trainer wont sack the driver!

[Thevoiceofreason]

Fair dinkum you blokes amaze me Ian Dornauf trains and drives ROYAL VERDICT and has won over $500,000 in stakes money and driven it in most of its runs, talk about bagging somebody,

When I first set foot on a racetrack 40 years ago the first piece of advice I got was" never take advice from someone going worse than yourself", pretty sure Ian wont be on the phone asking for driving tips boys.

[aussiebreno]

Fair dinkum you blokes amaze me Ian Dornauf trains and drives ROYAL VERDICT and has won over $500,000 in stakes money and driven it in most of its runs, talk about bagging somebody,

When I first set foot on a racetrack 40 years ago the first piece of advice I got was" never take advice from someone going worse than yourself", pretty sure Ian wont be on the phone asking for driving tips boys.

So people can't make judgement just because they haven't attained the same level? The races won by Royal verdict indicate he is a pretty talented horse and Dornauf is a pretty good trainer. Am I allowed to make judgement of Dornaufas a trainer because I haven't trained a winner? Craig Bellamy played reserve grade qld cup, yet tells players like Cameron smith, BIlly SLater, Greg INglis etc what to do. Lucky those players never got the advice you got. While we are at it we better shut down the media...
Now I feel as if I need to qualify my comments. July 2 2010 Melton, vicbred semi, stewards qdt of Dornaufand suspended for six weeks from memory.

[Gtrain]

Sorry Bill didn't realise a good horse could be driven poorly. I would have thought it would be a good one that's most beneficial to hook? My mistake.
I heard a saying once also. "A wise man can learn from a fool, however a fool will not learn from a wise man."

[Danno]

Time to get this one out again I reckon.........

The Riders in the Stand

There's some that ride the Robbo style, and bump at every stride;
While others sit a long way back, to get a longer ride.
There's some that ride like sailors do, with legs and arms, and teeth;
And some ride on the horse's neck, and some ride underneath.
But all the finest horsemen out -- the men to Beat the Band --
You'll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand.
They'll say "He had the race in hand, and lost it in the straight."
They'll show how Godby came too soon, and Barden came too late.
They'll say Chevalley lost his nerve, and Regan lost his head;
They'll tell how one was "livened up" and something else was "dead" --
In fact, the race was never run on sea, or sky, or land,
But what you'd get it better done by riders in the Stand.
The rule holds good in everything in life's uncertain fight;
You'll find the winner can't go wrong, the loser can't go right.
You ride a slashing race, and lose -- by one and all you're banned!
Ride like a bag of flour, and win -- they'll cheer you in the Stand.
Banjo Patterson.

[aussiebreno]

Time to get this one out again I reckon.........

The Riders in the Stand

There's some that ride the Robbo style, and bump at every stride;
While others sit a long way back, to get a longer ride.
There's some that ride like sailors do, with legs and arms, and teeth;
And some ride on the horse's neck, and some ride underneath.
But all the finest horsemen out -- the men to Beat the Band --
You'll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand.
They'll say "He had the race in hand, and lost it in the straight."
They'll show how Godby came too soon, and Barden came too late.
They'll say Chevalley lost his nerve, and Regan lost his head;
They'll tell how one was "livened up" and something else was "dead" --
In fact, the race was never run on sea, or sky, or land,
But what you'd get it better done by riders in the Stand.
The rule holds good in everything in life's uncertain fight;
You'll find the winner can't go wrong, the loser can't go right.
You ride a slashing race, and lose -- by one and all you're banned!
Ride like a bag of flour, and win -- they'll cheer you in the Stand.
Banjo Patterson.
Nice one danno. Did you know I rate the drive of Luke McCarthy on Mr Feelgood in the 2010 Miracle Mile higher than the drive of Hall Jnr on ITMQ in this years Inter. I'm pretty confident Ive credited McCarthy for the Feelgood drive on this forum before as proof of that. Nice poem nevertheless.

[Danno]

The main message of Banjo's poem for me Brenno, is the " benefit of hindsight" thing. I actually thought Ian Dornauf was a victim of circumstances the other night and erred on the side of caution, after all the horse was first up in a basic race and Royal Verdict has shown before he is not the same horse up facing the breeze as he is when held up for a run.
The leaders ran the middle half in 64, nobody could/would cart him up into the race, trying to make ground down the back when the leaders carved the second last quarter in about 28 would have busted his horse.......the list adds up to Royal Verdict had no hope from about 1,000 metres out. And Ian owns the horse, why would he risk busting him first up? The horse is looking for better races than that one this preparation.

Cheers
Dan

[Thevoiceofreason]

Time to get this one out again I reckon.........

The Riders in the Stand

There's some that ride the Robbo style, and bump at every stride;
While others sit a long way back, to get a longer ride.
There's some that ride like sailors do, with legs and arms, and teeth;
And some ride on the horse's neck, and some ride underneath.
But all the finest horsemen out -- the men to Beat the Band --
You'll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand.
They'll say "He had the race in hand, and lost it in the straight."
They'll show how Godby came too soon, and Barden came too late.
They'll say Chevalley lost his nerve, and Regan lost his head;
They'll tell how one was "livened up" and something else was "dead" --
In fact, the race was never run on sea, or sky, or land,
But what you'd get it better done by riders in the Stand.
The rule holds good in everything in life's uncertain fight;
You'll find the winner can't go wrong, the loser can't go right.
You ride a slashing race, and lose -- by one and all you're banned!
Ride like a bag of flour, and win -- they'll cheer you in the Stand.
Banjo Patterson.

Dan

This is the most sense you have ever made ...... no mate only joking.

Bill

[Gtrain]

Starting to feel my Royal Verdict bag was right in the money. The horse is going like a leer jet. It was driven so dead that night it's not funny. The B Jones/Cousin Dupreez baggers must have missed this one. Their thread did and the horse hasnt won in the next four starts. Hhhmmmmm.

[broncobrad]

G'day Grant. There is certainly merit in your claims about Royal Verdict. Just watched a few of his recent replays, his win two back when he just got there in a tick over 2.00. was a big win under the circumstances (even tho' the small field suited) compared to his previous run when the horse was set an impossible task. Mind you when he is driven back the horse seems to switch off into a state of consciousness akin to being in a coma.