Inter Dominion

[HaroldParker]

Only the one meeting @ Menangle on the weekend of March 3 ?

It's an outstanding day of racing, the finest ever but there should also be a meeting on Saturday night for the folk traveling from interstate or aboard or Glebe : )

I'll be going but if there was a meeting there on Friday or Saturday night I'd most certainly stay in a nearby hotel for a night or two. I'd also have a few more drinks, dine on course or nearby, transport to and from the hotel etc etc etc

I've just had a look at the availability of rooms on March 2, not a problem and it's only a fortnight away. From that perspective, it's a dud IMO.

My point is, I'll be driving to the track on Grand Final Sunday and that's it. I'll be grabbing a bite to eat for breakfast in a cafe near home and getting in for nicks. If there's a meeting on the Friday or Saturday, I'm putting 1K minimum into the local economy.

I started a thread many moons ago on this board about a three or four day carnival to rival those I've been to in the States (Harness) and the handful I've attended in Europe (Gallops).

Harness Racing NSW should own this weekend, screw the gallops. There's racing @ Dubbo on the Friday and a 6 race restricted card @ Bankstown on the Saturday, all worth 3K !

What a wasted opportunity.

Still a great meeting and I'm very much looking forward to it but for ID14 / 15, HRNSW need to grow a pair and dive in feet first. Build it and this mug will spend.

[eliteblood]

Bob,

Mar 2 is APG yearling sale day. You need to get along there and buy yourself a yearling

[HaroldParker]

Bob,

Mar 2 is APG yearling sale day. You need to get along there and buy yourself a yearling

I've never dipped my toes in here. Myself and a few mates in the States raced 60-70, in and out of claimers, had a blast. Perfect for a risk averse tightwad.

I'll think about it : )

[Toohard]

Vic heat field out
http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=19934

[teecee]

NZ Heat......That's it folks..!!!!

Race 8 [10:15pm] GLENFERRIE FARM INTERDOMINION HEAT 1 MOBILE PACE (Gr2) $50,000, 2200m Racebook (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/racebook/02160208.htm) Gear (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/021602ng.htm#Race-8) http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/images/tab-std.png (https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2013-02-16-m5-r8) Please refer to Harness Racing New South Wales for all conditions applicable to the TAB.COM.AU 2013 Interdominion Series. PLEASE NOTE:That for the Interdominion Heat Performance Incentive Scheme levies will not be applicable and or a bonus be paid as a result of winning this race.
1901912 5h Gold Ace (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159999&Arg=177859) 1Front S J Reid (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=30519&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)
2211311 5h Terror To Love (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159096&Arg=177859) 2Front G T Court & P T Court
3712771 6h Sir Lincoln (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=158408&Arg=177859) 3Front R W Green (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=13774&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)

[HaroldParker]

ROFL !!

3 horses. What a joke. Surely the last time under this format that we see a ID heat in NZ.

and hopefully HRNSW only issue them 1 spot and let them sweat for a second.

[Hermione]

To be fair, Mark Purdon had a few nominated and they are all no goers, so this is what happens. Bring back the old system and that sorts out the wheat from the chaff.

[Tangles]

NZ Heat......That's it folks..!!!!

Race 8 [10:15pm] GLENFERRIE FARM INTERDOMINION HEAT 1 MOBILE PACE (Gr2) $50,000, 2200m Racebook (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/racebook/02160208.htm) Gear (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/021602ng.htm#Race-8) http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/images/tab-std.png (https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2013-02-16-m5-r8) Please refer to Harness Racing New South Wales for all conditions applicable to the TAB.COM.AU 2013 Interdominion Series. PLEASE NOTE:That for the Interdominion Heat Performance Incentive Scheme levies will not be applicable and or a bonus be paid as a result of winning this race.
1901912 5h Gold Ace (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159999&Arg=177859) 1Front S J Reid (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=30519&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)
2211311 5h Terror To Love (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159096&Arg=177859) 2Front G T Court & P T Court
3712771 6h Sir Lincoln (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=158408&Arg=177859) 3Front R W Green (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=13774&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)


What a Joke!!! It should not stand up,abandon the race.

[Toohard]

What a Joke!!! It should not stand up,abandon the race.

And a Group 2 as well !! Winner will be classed as an Interdom heat winner.

[teecee]

To be fair, Mark Purdon had a few nominated and they are all no goers, so this is what happens. Bring back the old system and that sorts out the wheat from the chaff.
there were 5 only noms. No Purdon runners nominated. those to pull out Jarcullembra and Mr Presley

[teecee]

Even with only the 3 runners it's no lay down misère the result.

[Toohard]

Even with only the 3 runners it's no lay down misère the result.

Box trifecta??

[Hermione]

Sorry, I meant Purdon had a few horses originally scheduled for Interdoms but they fell by the wayside. Saw the noms this afternoon, and was surprised when Fields came out with only 3 left from original 5.

[trish]

In Sidineee...The far bettor horses are ALL in the first heat (5 under 31 to 1) with the exception of M Sish. The second heat horses are over 50 to 1. which means a much lesser rated horse will get into the final

[Danno]

The Kiwi heat is an absolute farce, there is no other way to accurately describe it, can someone show me where, in the history of the interdominion, there has been even one single heat run with so few starters....an absolute bloody shambles...be even funnier if there is a scratching or two!!! imagine a walk over to qualify for the final of one of the hardest races in the world to qualify for, well I bet that will give our game a bit of air...stench that is.

[HaroldParker]

From what I can gather from the conditions of the race, when the races were drawn, our resident form experts (Handicappers) were going to look at each heat and decide how many from each heat should be guaranteed a start.

The Handicappers might have their hands tied and there had to be 2 from NZ, otherwise, what explanation is there for 2 of the 3 to be guaranteed a start ?

HRNSW need to come out ASAP and declare that a third horse cannot come that heat. If Terror To Love can't peg the first 2 back when they're running 26 Flat, tough titties.

What they need to do if they're fair dinkum is give the 14th spot they're holding onto to 3rd in WA and be done with it.

and let's not mention the Karloo Mick shyte fight kicking off tomorrow.

[2minuteman]

I've never dipped my toes in here. Myself and a few mates in the States raced 60-70, in and out of claimers, had a blast. Perfect for a risk averse tightwad.
Last week it was 50 or more.this week 60-70. This keeps up we'll need a calculator.

[2minuteman]

NZ Heat......That's it folks..!!!!

Race 8 [10:15pm] GLENFERRIE FARM INTERDOMINION HEAT 1 MOBILE PACE (Gr2) $50,000, 2200m Racebook (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/racebook/02160208.htm) Gear (http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/021602ng.htm#Race-8) http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/images/tab-std.png (https://www.tab.co.nz/racing/#2013-02-16-m5-r8) Please refer to Harness Racing New South Wales for all conditions applicable to the TAB.COM.AU 2013 Interdominion Series. PLEASE NOTE:That for the Interdominion Heat Performance Incentive Scheme levies will not be applicable and or a bonus be paid as a result of winning this race.
1901912 5h Gold Ace (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159999&Arg=177859) 1Front S J Reid (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=30519&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)
2211311 5h Terror To Love (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=159096&Arg=177859) 2Front G T Court & P T Court
3712771 6h Sir Lincoln (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/rar46x?Arg=158408&Arg=177859) 3Front R W Green (http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/infohorsewahr/wsd02x?Arg=hrnzg-ptype&Arg=licenceholder&Arg=hrnzg-ltype&Arg=TRAINER&Arg=hrnzg-NameID&Arg=13774&Arg=hrnzg-DoSearch&Arg=FALSE&Arg=hrnzg-ContactInfo&Arg=FALSE)

A great advertisment for the new format.

[HaroldParker]

Thanks Ron, I'm glad you're keeping score. The Chap that did the books for us believes it could of been more. It sounds like a lot but they were ready made and over quite a few years. Probably a third of them were in and out within 2-3 weeks.

and I am a risk averse tight arse by trade : )

[teecee]

With the conditions of the series such that NSWHRC want the best 10 Grand Circuit horses in the final, they have chosen to gamble that those best 10 can make it by the handicappers' grading of the heats. IMO this is so as they have graded the heats AFTER fields were declared.
Whether you like or not and it seems clear that your bias is geographically based rather than horse ability or any other logic based, it seems quite clear that at least 2 of those ten are in the NZ heat (IMO Gold Ace and TtL)(...Sir Lincoln must be reasonably high up the rankings also IMO....)and 2 are in the WA heat ,(ITMQ and one other I am yet to determine). If their rankings of the horses are based on performance/ wins, stakes earnings along with current race form performance then I have to believe there is nothing untoward in the way they have ranked the fields and runners in the hope of seeing the 10 best to the final.
If their end desire is to see the best 10 in the final then it is not incomprehensible to still see 2 from NZ heat even with a late scratching.
They (NSWHRC) were after all, prepared to alter/adjust/rejig the series conditions to offer Sushi Sushi (a horse certain to be in the top ten) a free ride to the final.

[HaroldParker]

If they wanted the 10 best horses in a race they would have invited them ... and it wouldn't be an Interdominion.

[teecee]

If they wanted the 10 best horses in a race they would have invited them ... and it wouldn't be an Interdominion.

You got it in one!!!!!

[p plater]

Fields out, all in place and still no certainty as to the rules. Refer to lastest release which still has conditions, if,if,if !!!!!! http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=19942

[HaroldParker]

Yup, the Wild Card is a terrible idea. More so after the draws are out. WA should get it.

NZ Heat, 2 spots, only 3 in it ... Nuff Said!

Vic Heat, 3. The names are there, form wise, not so much. 3 or 4 of the 9 are stocking fillers.

NSW Heat 1, 4. I'm OK with 4 from this heat. There's three times as much depth as the Supp Heat so double the spots is fair enough.

NSW Supp Heat, 2. Mah Sish and who ? Four Starzzz Flash is the 2nd Fav, Nuff Said!

= WA only getting 2 guaranteed with the ID12 Tri, Fremantle Cup winner & Co is a joke. The folk there should be mightily pissed off.

[aussiebreno]

If they wanted the 10 best horses in a race they would have invited them ... and it wouldn't be an Interdominion.It isn't an Interdom this way either! Bulk embarrasment for HRNSW.

[trish]

It isn't an Interdom this way either! Bulk embarrasment for HRNSW.


Agree, once they changed the format it was not the Interdom.
We wouldn't have any problems if it was the old format because horses would qualify on points from heats & owners & trainers understood everything & no one had a problem with it. I have never seen so many ????? .

Trainers made a holiday of racing there horses over the interdom carnival & it was great.
Gee boys I hope you get it right next year & go back to how it should be, you have plenty of money to hold The REAL Interdom.


Chris Barsby‏@BarsbyChris
ID13 runner Devil Dodger has arrived in Sydney from Melbourne in good order. No Qld heat yet only 3 in Auckland heat. Owner furious. #unfair (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23unfair&src=hash)

Agree with this owner too.

[Greg Hando]

What happens if ITMQ runs 3rd,Mah Sish 3rd and TTL 3rd ? Will be interesting. It has turned into nothing but a farce and the power's that be should be ashamed to have belittled the greatest true test of a horses ability that we have. With the 3 heats over varying distances and the final RBD gave anyone good enough to make the final a chance to win. It has turned into a free for all with the starters coming from 1 round of heat's no different to the Country series heat's and final's Menangle run monthly for the bush horses only the prize money differ's. I am ashamed of it being called The Inter Dominion and the name should be changed as to not be little the once great races name.

[Danno]

What happens if ITMQ runs 3rd,Mah Sish 3rd and TTL 3rd ? Will be interesting. It has turned into nothing but a farce and the power's that be should be ashamed to have belittled the greatest true test of a horses ability that we have. With the 3 heats over varying distances and the final RBD gave anyone good enough to make the final a chance to win. It has turned into a free for all with the starters coming from 1 round of heat's no different to the Country series heat's and final's Menangle run monthly for the bush horses only the prize money differ's. I am ashamed of it being called The Inter Dominion and the name should be changed as to not be little the once great races name.

Couldn't agree more Greg, I think many of us thought that the series would somehow be a success anyway, but it's not looking real flash is it?
Just a bloody shame IMO. our game is doing it tougher than I have seen it in my 45 years involvement and it certainly DOES NOT need any more pain!...but it is a dead set bloody shambles.

[Toohard]

What happens if ITMQ runs 3rd,Mah Sish 3rd and TTL 3rd ? Will be interesting. It has turned into nothing but a farce and the power's that be should be ashamed to have belittled the greatest true test of a horses ability that we have. With the 3 heats over varying distances and the final RBD gave anyone good enough to make the final a chance to win. It has turned into a free for all with the starters coming from 1 round of heat's no different to the Country series heat's and final's Menangle run monthly for the bush horses only the prize money differ's. I am ashamed of it being called The Inter Dominion and the name should be changed as to not be little the once great races name.


Here Here Greg!! Son tells me you forgot Smoken Up though! Along with above he runs 4th. Now what?

Trish said earlier trainers treated it as a holiday. Could plan well in advance that going to go to Interdom for 2 weeks. Now... don't know until Saturday night. Trainers have lots of other horses in work, other owners and other races to aim for. Can't expect NZ trainers to drop everything and head over on no notice when other races over there to consider. Hence 3 starters in a Group 2 race.

It's going to be a super, super day on 3rd March. A great day of racing. And well done to HRNSW for promoting it so well. But an Interdom? No it's not. Invite the best horses and have the best race. But don't dress it up as an Interdom. They going to walk in that NZ race and sprint home in 26 last 1/4. Winner and 2nd in 3 horse field gets into final. Cannot compare that to the likes of what Our Sir Vancelot, etc. had to do.

[broncobrad]

Its hard not to agree with most sentiments expressed on this thread. This is an Interdominion in name only. Yesterday for the first time since I don't know when, The Daily Telegraph had a big splash in its sports pages (across 2 pages no less) by Brent Zerafa looking at the upcoming heats this Friday. It was a bit short on detail and focussed on Excel Stride (which is going like a busted ... at present) and even though it was buried away in the back of the paper, it was like turning back time to when the sport had some public interest, something akin to the once a year punters in the Melbourne Cup...its hard to believe but once upon a time most Australians had some idea what the ID was. Hope they give it a bit more serious coverage and don't just treat it as filler. The TV coverage could do with a bit more promotion too.

[broncobrad]

Yup, the Wild Card is a terrible idea. More so after the draws are out. WA should get it.

NZ Heat, 2 spots, only 3 in it ... Nuff Said!

Vic Heat, 3. The names are there, form wise, not so much. 3 or 4 of the 9 are stocking fillers.

NSW Heat 1, 4. I'm OK with 4 from this heat. There's three times as much depth as the Supp Heat so double the spots is fair enough.

NSW Supp Heat, 2. Mah Sish and who ? Four Starzzz Flash is the 2nd Fav, Nuff Said!

= WA only getting 2 guaranteed with the ID12 Tri, Fremantle Cup winner & Co is a joke. The folk there should be mightily pissed off.


Hey Bob...this should make your day, NOT!!! Have a look at the 2nd last sentence in this report. Its an unlikely scenario but it is still possible.

http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=103679

[Karinya]

I really like the heat format interstate its exciting for me knowing that I will be on track Saturday at Menangle and will be watching 2 heats on track and the the other 3 all withing a short space of time something different. Its great for interstate horses to to have a go at qualifying with out the cost of coming to NSW. HOWEVER I am disappointing these are the only heats. It would have been great to have the second round of heats the following Saturday (Night 2 of the carnival) then the final 8 days later.

Disappointing only 3 horses in the NZ heat and 2 are guaranteed a final appearance. Bit unfair for the other heats who have full fields.

[trish]

Karloo Mick is out.
B. Lews stay refused.
Now only 3 will go through from the first heat in Sydney.
Maybe have 2 wildcards????

[Danno]

Starting to wish I nommed my old nag for the NZ heat.....may have been my once in a lifetime chance:D

[broncobrad]

Just heard on Sky that Smoken Up is under a fitness cloud and is to undergo a vets inspection 9.00 Saturday morning, apparently plenty of rumours circulating (of which I know naught about). Carribean Blaster also to undergo the same routine at 10.00. I hope all is well with these horses and they get their opportunity in the ID.

[Danno]

Just heard on Sky that Smoken Up is under a fitness cloud and is to undergo a vets inspection 9.00 Saturday morning, apparently plenty of rumours circulating (of which I know naught about). Carribean Blaster also to undergo the same routine at 10.00. I hope all is well with these horses and they get their opportunity in the ID.

certainly don't need anymore decimation of worthy candidiates

[Greg Hando]

Karloo Mick is out.
B. Lews stay refused.
Now only 3 will go through from the first heat in Sydney.
Maybe have 2 wildcards????

Trish where did you hear this from and if it is right it is absolute bullshit must be because he is a hobby country trainer you can bet if it was a professional trainer the stay would have been granted. This will see the end of Karloo Mick and i fear Barry as a participant in this indutry that he has been in for 40+ years. For christs sake it is a $750,000 dollar race he is trying to get into. I am absolutely disgusted with this decision i only wish i could say how i really feel and think.

[teecee]

It's true.. go to HRA website...news...stewards wrap

[Greg Hando]

Thanks Tony .

[HaroldParker]

2 Wildcards. They need to change the name next year. The Interdominion = get a result or go home.

[HaroldParker]

I was out @ Menangle last night, they have to be disappointed with the turn out. If I wasn't picking up a couple of mates from the airport on the Sunday morning, I wouldn't be there on final day.

They have newer seats in front of the new stand (concourse I guess) that were available to the public to sit on. The flip up variety. Good because water doesn't settle on them, saves someone coming along and removing the water. Well that's fine (it isn't) the back two or three rows were filthy. The remainder were just dirty. You're telling me someone couldn't of passed the buck to someone else there to tidy them up ? My lucky hanky was offered to an old lady who wanted somewhere to sit. My lucky hunky is dead. If that same lady needed a bathroom, I hope a step up to a port a loo isn't too much of a hassle.

& speaking of toilets, had I not been trying to find one about the fourth race, I wouldn't of known they had bookies on course. Those bookies should be demanding places on the grass next week and next.

If they get a few more on Final Day, I don't think it's going to be comfortable at all. If it's warm, I might not leave the Horse and Jockey up the road.

[Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild]

Bob, are you taking anything at the moment for your chronic whinging?

[brother cool]

He may be whinging but he is correct its a disgrace

[HISGEN65]

Jeezzz I hope they change the format & or get someone to market the event..!!!...or I reakon the InterDom will be history.

[broncobrad]

Bob, are you taking anything at the moment for your chronic whinging?

I have been looking forward to going down for the final for a long time now even as the stars that I had hoped to see in the flesh are falling by the wayside. But the fact that the day is supported with plenty of quality events will make the day more than worthwhile. Decided not to reserve seats for the day because I want to be out and about checking out the horses, being able to use the viewing platform in the barn will be a huge plus, and generally try different viewing points throughout the day. Knowing the downsides of Menangle is going to help me out because I will have the cook with me and she has as much appreciation for the sport as I do for the world championship of hand sewing and as we all know if she is not happy, then sure as shit I'm not going to be happy. I would rather hear the bad with the good from someone on here rather than the glowing reports from some PR machine so keep us updated Bob (and bring a new hanky) and if its not much chop I will meet you at the Horse and Jockey lol.

HRNSW has been working hard to bring this event to us. We know their facilities are nowhere near complete and most of us can appreciate that but if they don't make a real attempt at putting on a show that also caters to the fans as well as the participants it is an opportunity lost.

[p plater]

Brad, there will be very limited viewing areas due to the work going on. Stable complex is very good and spacious, which has been opened. Other than doing a quick hand sewing course, I suggest you may be better off from a "peaceful life" viewpoint to put your long trip back until next year when the stands and Club should be finished.

Spoil her this year and buy her a large new plasma tv.

I took my cook recently and I can tell you that I was the cook for the next 3 days.


It will be great when it's finally finished.

[2minuteman]

Geez you mob are hard to please,weren't you listening to Racing Radio the other day when Dummo told us that ice cream is not as good as what this will be.
I know,I know probably smoking something.

[HaroldParker]

Bob, are you taking anything at the moment for your chronic whinging?

Leigh, there's not a great deal of seats out there. The brand new ones, you'd think on ID13 Heat night would be clean. Building works or not, I think that's below par.

I got there about half an hour before the first, I stumbled upon the bookies, tucked away in a dungeon just before the fourth. At Harold Park they used to give the bookies opening prices as horses were introduced for every race, they don't even do that anymore or do they ? Perhaps it washed over.

Building works or not, make the best of what you've got. If you were there on Saturday like I was, you'd know they could do better.

[HaroldParker]

I have been looking forward to going down for the final for a long time now even as the stars that I had hoped to see in the flesh are falling by the wayside. But the fact that the day is supported with plenty of quality events will make the day more than worthwhile. Decided not to reserve seats for the day because I want to be out and about checking out the horses, being able to use the viewing platform in the barn will be a huge plus, and generally try different viewing points throughout the day. Knowing the downsides of Menangle is going to help me out because I will have the cook with me and she has as much appreciation for the sport as I do for the world championship of hand sewing and as we all know if she is not happy, then sure as shit I'm not going to be happy. I would rather hear the bad with the good from someone on here rather than the glowing reports from some PR machine so keep us updated Bob (and bring a new hanky) and if its not much chop I will meet you at the Horse and Jockey lol.

HRNSW has been working hard to bring this event to us. We know their facilities are nowhere near complete and most of us can appreciate that but if they don't make a real attempt at putting on a show that also caters to the fans as well as the participants it is an opportunity lost.

Brad, have you got tickets yet ? If you don't, drop me a line via here and I'll post you some General Admission freebies. I have a couple but I can get a couple more if needed.

[Toni]

Well the draw is out! What does everyone think?

I think Mah Sish will be hard to beat from the number 1

1. Mah Sish
2. Caribbean Blaster
3. Jaccka Clive
4. Chariot King
5. Excel Stride
6. Im Themightyquinn
7. Terror To Love
8. Mysta Magical Mach
9. Lincoln Royal
10. Keeyang Cullen
11. Pub Blitz (second row)
12. Mach Alert (second row)
13. Bitobliss (second row)
14. Washakie (second row)
15. Devil Dodger 1st Em

[aussiebreno]

Well the draw is out! What does everyone think?

I think Mah Sish will be hard to beat from the number 1

1. Mah Sish
2. Caribbean Blaster
3. Jaccka Clive
4. Chariot King
5. Excel Stride
6. Im Themightyquinn
7. Terror To Love
8. Mysta Magical Mach
9. Lincoln Royal
10. Keeyang Cullen
11. Pub Blitz (second row)
12. Mach Alert (second row)
13. Bitobliss (second row)
14. Washakie (second row)
15. Devil Dodger 1st Em
Barrier 1 with no sprint lane over 3000m with CB in 2 and Jaccka Clive in 3 isn't a good draw at all imo.

My opinion hasn't changed, Im Themigtyquinn to win. TTL only genuine danger. Mah Sish and Blaster both good horses and should be close. The Bitobliss circa Nov 2012 could well win, as could an improved Excel Stride. Pub Blitz drawn well for him, sneaky run on the pegs like Hunter Cup could see him figure - I'd suspect his odds to come in slightly.

Ratings:
Quinny
TTL
Blaster
Mah Sish
Bitobliss
Excel Stride
Pub Blitz
Jackka Clive

[HaroldParker]

I was hoping for inside the back line or 10 for ITMQ but I'm greedy.

A winning ticket with $4 on it will have to do : )

[michael_91]

Dont know if Im the only one but I cant see how drawing 6 and 7 is so great for IMTHEMIGHTYQUINN and TERROR TO LOVE. They are both best when saved for one run and if they are going to go back at the start the back row may well end up infront of them which will mean they have to go right back to the tail which will set them a massive task. A truly run race will help yes however to get into it they will need to be going 3 wide with cover from a fair way out and down the long menangle straight I have my doubts about IMTHEMIGHTYQUINN. No doubting hes a great horse but if you cant bully your way through a local FFA and need speed on and favours to win there, you cant be a favourite in a ID Final from a suspect draw in my book. Can win for sure, unders in my book however. I think TERROR TO LOVE will go forward early and look to get a spot and than take a sit which will enhance his chances (NZ Cup style of drive). Will also need luck however be closer to the action which will help I think.

MAH SISH is going to be locked away on the fence which may not look his cup of tea however with A Butt never write him off, right luck and he will get over the top.
CARRIBEAN BLASTER worries me if they want to try and cross to the fence and hand up as he may get keen but with a genuine speed and a soft run we all know what he can do (Vic Cup). Massive hope.
JACCKA CLIVE will come out of the gate, get a spot and run on, luck in running he can place.
CHARIOT KING may well get to the fence and hand up which gives him a bolters chance, I know CARRIBEAN BLASTER will be trying to prevent that but on recent form Im not sure if he can, def place chance, will be in finish.
EXCEL STRIDE I think has to go forward but Im not sure were he ends up, his runs have been very plain of late and Im going to give him a miss.
MYSTA MAGICAL MACH is a great old horse and @ $24 a place he is a great show, will run a great race and with luck will be there. Hard to see him winning tho.
LINCON ROYAL if he starts goes forward most likely ends up infront will give a sight, each way chance for sure.
PUB BLITZ gets similar run as to Hunter Cup and will run on very well, heat run massive, with luck hes a hope.

My pick is BITOBLISS, always look for value and I think this draw is better than it looks on paper, no work early, may be able end up 3 wide with some cover and we all know how good he is. Flying home I like him.

MACH ALERT I think Hunter Cup showed us that he isnt ready for the big leauge, genuine run races over long trips with good horses, no for me.
WASHAKIE, draw hurts, not going like he can.
KEYANG CULLEN, racing out of his deapth abit at the moment and the draw puts a end to things.


13
1,2,6,7
1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,11

Thats my take on it, good luck everyone Sunday!

[Maorisidol]

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