How Far Will Im Themightyquinn win by?

[aussiebreno]

How far will Im Themightyquinn win by?

Please post your pick.

Odds are:
Won't win: $11
< 1 length: $3
1-2 lengths: $2.50
> 2 lengths: $2.50

[clumsy]

How far will Im Themightyquinn win by?

Please post your pick.

Odds are:
Won't win: $11
< 1 length: $3
1-2 lengths: $2.50
> 2 lengths: $2.50

> 2 lengths

[gutwagon]

Where can I get $11 that he wont win ? Would love some of that. I don't think he will make the first four !

[aussiebreno]

Brave lot those who aren't picking Quinny. Too scared to post now, but will come out in droves should he lose :)

[Maorisidol]

Brave lot those who aren't picking Quinny. Too scared to post now, but will come out in droves should he lose :)

Happy to put my name up Brendon, as i and others have mentioned many times "too many things" need to go right for him to win. i totally believe he can win, but, the stars all have to align and the Gods must all agree. If he is "out" and under big pressure at the top of the LOOOONG Menangle straight, his little heart will pop about 50m out. So Hall has all the pressure on him to conserve his little baby 99.9% until the last 150m, if he can do that and of course not use ANYTHING at the start he is in with a chance.

[Triple V]

I'm hoping it plays out for an ITMQ Vs Terror To Love stretch drive. That'll be one for the ages. You'll tell your grandkids about it.

[HISGEN65]

ITMQ can of course win but I dont think he will...I think Mah Sish & Caribbean Blaster will run strong races up front & I just got a feeling ITMQ will not be close enough to run them down..Terror to Love will be the main danger if close enough at the end...Pub Blitz being the dark horse,he has impressed me no end..so many "what if's"...should be a corker

[2minuteman]

Happy to put my name up Brendon, as i and others have mentioned many times "too many things" need to go right for him to win. i totally believe he can win, but, the stars all have to align and the Gods must all agree. If he is "out" and under big pressure at the top of the LOOOONG Menangle straight, his little heart will pop about 50m out. So Hall has all the pressure on him to conserve his little baby 99.9% until the last 150m, if he can do that and of course not use ANYTHING at the start he is in with a chance.

Fully agree and my "opinion" was posted well before the heats and barrier draw."IMO" the draw has not done GHj any favours at all.If he goes back,as he has said is his preferred racing pattern,the second row horses become obstacles to dropping into a 1 x 4 possie. Luck's a fortune but it is more likely that he will need to go right back rather than lob mid-field.
The really interesting scenario is if GHj decides to go forward,lead then hand up ASAP, [and the horse has the speed to do that].
First problem, is that the horses drawn inside will not want to hand up and even if GHj gets the front we know he will hand-up hoping to get sucked along leading to second problem.
There will be more than one horse/driver wanting to get to the front over 3200.It is quite likely that ITMQ could be four back on the rails and could GHj rely on the good manners of the other drivers to let him off the fence when he needs a run?
What is TTL doing while all of this is going on? Well may we ask,"how many beans make five?"
Buggered if I know, but the barrier draw has made it a most intriguing race,run to first turn will be charge of the Light Brigade but the moves in running will be fascinating.

As I have wondered about how the race will be run, a little niggle comes along that this final might provide a boilover.Who could it be is the question?

[Maorisidol]

Fully agree and my "opinion" was posted well before the heats and barrier draw."IMO" the draw has not done GHj any favours at all.If he goes back,as he has said is his preferred racing pattern,the second row horses become obstacles to dropping into a 1 x 4 possie. Luck's a fortune but it is more likely that he will need to go right back rather than lob mid-field.
The really interesting scenario is if GHj decides to go forward,lead then hand up ASAP, [and the horse has the speed to do that].
First problem, is that the horses drawn inside will not want to hand up and even if GHj gets the front we know he will hand-up hoping to get sucked along leading to second problem.
There will be more than one horse/driver wanting to get to the front over 3200.It is quite likely that ITMQ could be four back on the rails and could GHj rely on the good manners of the other drivers to let him off the fence when he needs a run?
What is TTL doing while all of this is going on? Well may we ask,"how many beans make five?"
Buggered if I know, but the barrier draw has made it a most intriguing race,run to first turn will be charge of the Light Brigade but the moves in running will be fascinating.

As I have wondered about how the race will be run, a little niggle comes along that this final might provide a boilover.Who could it be is the question?

Based on Chariot Kings current speed out of the gate i see him wanting to cross the 1 and 2 horses and get to the pegs and hibernate. Adam Hamilton says Lincoln Royal is extremely fast out and he reckons he can lead and apparently has lead from a very wide gate at Menangle before, his Trainer or driver has apparently said they then will not hand up. Quinn cannot afford any battles at the start so i agree may end up right out the back. After that buggered if i know, Mah Sish maybe 4 pegs, Carribbean Blaster should be in front half, and then moves could come from everywhere?
Agree an absolute smoky could win, Jaccka Clive racing really well flying home in Hunter Cup loves 3000m, spewin i missed $8 place for him on fixed odds pre barrier draw.

[aussiebreno]

The old cover our arses "ITMQ can win with luck" = no egg on face if he does win.
But will still be the first to crack eggs should he lose.

Hop on the bandwagon now before its too late fellas. A 1.55 MR last quarter 27.5 from 2 lengths off them. Heard it here first.

[Maorisidol]

The old cover our arses "ITMQ can win with luck" = no egg on face if he does win.
But will still be the first to crack eggs should he lose.

Hop on the bandwagon now before its too late fellas. A 1.55 MR last quarter 27.5 from 2 lengths off them. Heard it here first.

Of course he can win, we are not stupid Brenno, we just think what we think as stated no need to repeat myself. Personally i think there are only about 4-5 horses who cannot win. Its a very wide open race, there are possibilities everywhere. But because as i stated once before you are starstruck or "pu55y whipped" buy a certain little sprinter you cant handle anyone saying he cant win 100%. Chill out brother!
OK hows this Bren, if ITMQ does decent work in the race, is under the pump and flat out at the top of the big long Menangle straight and then wins, he'll earn my respect.
But if he sits quiet does nothing, gets an easy cart up until last 200m and outsprints them, then its the same crackers isnt it.

[teecee]

[QUOTE=Maorisidol;25926]Of course he can win.
If ITMQ does decent work in the race, is under the pump and flat out at the top of the big long Menangle straight and then wins, he'll earn my respect.
And He'll earn my respect.
But if he sits quiet does nothing, gets an easy cart up until last 200m and outsprints them, then ....
He'll earn my respect there too.
Three consecutive Interdominions and that elusive Australia East Coast Grand Circuit prize....
He'll deserve everyone's respect and adulation to go with it.

Only thing that should put some (but not all) off is that NZ beside his name...!!!!!

[Big K]

Must admit that I hope he can win his third Inter Dom in a row.You would think reading some posts that he's the weakest 3.7 million dollar earner ever.

[Viv Strangman]

Must admit that I hope he can win his third Inter Dom in a row.You would think reading some posts that he's the weakest 3.7 million dollar earner ever.

Quinny's big problem is the final is in Sydney. In Perth he has a win to starts ratio of 70% while in the eastern states it is 20%. One win in his last 8starts in the east doesn't make good reading. If things go his way of course he can win it but his record in the east would suggest it is going to be a lot tougher than people are saying.

[broncobrad]

Brenno, your stirring knows no boundarys. Hisgen65 states the obvious, of course IMTQ can win as do I. But he is no moral and nor is Terror To Love. But TTL will be getting all mine and I've spruiked it for long enough and can see no need to change. Lets just hope you and Bob get the overs you are looking for.

Haven't seen the star studded trial that went around at Menangle today, Christen Me beating IMTQ in pretty slick time. Anyone there to give an account of the trial?

[Big K]

Christen Me 5 back the pegs,popped off round the bend and ran home strongly,ITMQ dropped out to last..long way off the lead early ,got on Pub blitz back as he worked up,pulled three wide around the bend and sprinted home good.To be honest didn't take close note of most of the others but from a WA perspective thought Im Victorious trialled well and MMM was a nice win.

[2minuteman]

The old cover our arses "ITMQ can win with luck" = no egg on face if he does win.
But will still be the first to crack eggs should he lose.

Hop on the bandwagon now before its too late fellas. A 1.55 MR last quarter 27.5 from 2 lengths off them. Heard it here first.

Sounds good,how does he get to be two off at the quarter?

[2minuteman]

Only thing that should put some (but not all) off is that NZ beside his name...!!!!![/QUOTE]

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

[HaroldParker]

Christen Me 5 back the pegs,popped off round the bend and ran home strongly,ITMQ dropped out to last..long way off the lead early ,got on Pub blitz back as he worked up,pulled three wide around the bend and sprinted home good.To be honest didn't take close note of most of the others but from a WA perspective thought Im Victorious trialled well and MMM was a nice win.

He was given a solid hit out for sure. He was obviously in need of it and they forked out for the late entry fee to start in the Auckland Cup next week, that's good enough for me. Bookies weren't impressed though, suckers : )

Christen Me is a phenom. Christian Cullen flashbacks. I should call crime stoppers and dob myself in for the $3.20 : )

[HaroldParker]

Blacks A Fake probably still hasn't won you over Ron.

ITMQ 1-2 Lengths. Leave a little something in the locker to win the Auckland Cup next week.

[Big K]

Yea I was there as well,funnily enough I sat with the breeder of ITMQ,great race and on the night I thought great win to SU he was too good,and ITMQ's run was outstanding as well.But besides everything else what can you say.. ITMQ the winner.Was it wrong that SU was DQ'd,I dont know but I guess the rules are the rules.Just to touch on the negative opinions that Quinnie seems to attract,I thought his win in the Auckland Cup that year was outstanding and he won all his heats for the Inters that year as well.As it stands he has won every heat and final of the Inter Dom for the last two years and also his heat this year.I think this year he'll give it a big shake as well.

[gollywog]

Here is the trial video guys.

http://www.trotstv.com.au/?id=8101#.USxAQeChG70

[Maorisidol]

Here is the trial video guys.

http://www.trotstv.com.au/?id=8101#.USxAQeChG70

thanks Gollywog!

WOW Christen Me, unextended! held Quinns sprint easily, Quinn was full bore from top of straight. (thats a compliment to Quinns sprint for those of you thinking i am bagging him)

[2minuteman]

Yea I was there as well,funnily enough I sat with the breeder of ITMQ,great race and on the night I thought great win to SU he was too good,and ITMQ's run was outstanding as well.But besides everything else what can you say.. ITMQ the winner.Was it wrong that SU was DQ'd,I dont know but I guess the rules are the rules.Just to touch on the negative opinions that Quinnie seems to attract,I thought his win in the Auckland Cup that year was outstanding and he won all his heats for the Inters that year as well.As it stands he has won every heat and final of the Inter Dom for the last two years and also his heat this year.I think this year he'll give it a big shake as well.
Fair comment.Glad they paid winning div onSU.

[Mighty Atom]

Here is the trial video guys.

http://www.trotstv.com.au/?id=8101#.USxAQeChG70

Could you see another horse in the I.D. final sprint as quick as Quinny did up the straight in that trial?. I can't, including TTL.
So all the Quinnie detractors, haters etc, etc, etc, better hope that the horse gets no luck in running in the final.
Nothing intended towards you gollywog, just using your trial URL.

Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300
and both unextended.

[Mighty Atom]

[QUOTE=Maorisidol;25926]Of course he can win.
If ITMQ does decent work in the race, is under the pump and flat out at the top of the big long Menangle straight and then wins, he'll earn my respect.
And He'll earn my respect.
But if he sits quiet does nothing, gets an easy cart up until last 200m and outsprints them, then ....
He'll earn my respect there too.
Three consecutive Interdominions and that elusive Australia East Coast Grand Circuit prize....
He'll deserve everyone's respect and adulation to go with it.

Only thing that should put some (but not all) off is that NZ beside his name...!!!!!

Too right teecee, many like to overlook that NZ next to Aussie horses, but always remember AUS/NZ.
If a West Aussie doesn't win then I'll be supporting a Kiwi; which just about means the whole field really.

[Maorisidol]

[QUOTE=teecee;25929]

Too right teecee, many like to overlook that NZ next to Aussie horses, but always remember AUS/NZ.
If a West Aussie doesn't win then I'll be supporting a Kiwi; which just about means the whole field really.

Jeepers Rod,
You really were involved in that movement in Perth many years ago that wanted to cut the West off from the rest of Australia and become your own nation!
And being a Freo boy you probably wanted also to be detached from those on the other side of the river!
You do know his 3 Inter heat wins in Perth last year were really standard issue WA FFA races...:) they werent even worthy of ID status, the toughest horse he faced in a heat was Raglan!!!

[Mighty Atom]

[QUOTE=Mighty Atom;25964]

Jeepers Rod,
You really were involved in that movement in Perth many years ago that wanted to cut the West off from the rest of Australia and become your own nation!
And being a Freo boy you probably wanted also to be detached from those on the other side of the river!
You do know his 3 Inter heat wins in Perth last year were really standard issue WA FFA races...:) they werent even worthy of ID status, the toughest horse he faced in a heat was Raglan!!!

Hi Ash,
Did you not read my post about how fast W.A. FFA performers are, could easily out -perform some of those masquerading as G1's, as the placings in the I.D. 2012 confirm.
As far as the succession debate goes, believe me it hasn't gone away, about 37 - 40 % of sandgropers are still in the affirmative. I think W.A. was the last state to sign up to the federation - I'm a fence sitter myself.
You are write about the north - south issue with regards to Perth. Many believe they are two different cities.

[Toohard]

Could you see another horse in the I.D. final sprint as quick as Quinny did up the straight in that trial?. I can't, including TTL.
So all the Quinnie detractors, haters etc, etc, etc, better hope that the horse gets no luck in running in the final.
Nothing intended towards you gollywog, just using your trial URL.

Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300
and both unextended.

Not just WA ones go quick there. Smoken Up 1.48.5. Looking at list in classicfamiles 1.52.2 makes it the fastest WA horse at Menangle. About 40th overall. But that list only includes classic winners. Dont know where to get complete list but reckon would scrape into top 100. They flying machines them WA horses.

When you break times down doesn't look like much difference between them all eg. 1.52.2 = .0697327 metres per sec. 1.48.5 = .0674331 mps. But then convert to race dist-time and 1.48.5 beats 1.52.2 by 53 metres.
Yep they flying machines.

[Mighty Atom]

Not just WA ones go quick there. Smoken Up 1.48.5. Looking at list in classicfamiles 1.52.2 makes it the fastest WA horse at Menangle. About 40th overall. But that list only includes classic winners. Dont know where to get complete list but reckon would scrape into top 100. They flying machines them WA horses.

When you break times down doesn't look like much difference between them all eg. 1.52.2 = .0697327 metres per sec. 1.48.5 = .0674331 mps. But then convert to race dist-time and 1.48.5 beats 1.52.2 by 53 metres.
Yep they flying machines.

Smoken Up - oh for the glory days. Not that many W.A. horses have raced at Menangle and have already established a pretty impressive record and in fast time.

[p plater]

Smoken Up - oh for the glory days. Not that many W.A. horses have raced at Menangle and have already established a pretty impressive record and in fast time.

Not going to put crap on anyone here but lets face reality.

There was 7 races over the 1609 mtrs on the 16th February, of those only 2 MO's went slower than the 1.52.2.

This track is a completely different playing field when it comes to times. Even Mo's and M1/M2's can go quick.

[Toohard]

Smoken Up - oh for the glory days. Not that many W.A. horses have raced at Menangle and have already established a pretty impressive record and in fast time.
Smoken Up retired? ok will leave smoken up out and use 2nd fastest time Menangle. Oops nope can't do that. 3rd fastest. Washakie. 1.50.5 beats 1.52.2 by 24ms. Apart from I'm Victorious who maybe gets into top 100 which other WA horses have established an impressive record in a fast time? 1.52.2 fast at Menangle??

[Big K]

Washakie of course is a former WA horse who is still owned in WA.MMM's run was pretty good considering his wide draw and early burn.Won quite well so no doubt the time is an indication of what he can do.Dont think he'll be left behind on Sunday either.

[matrightyeh]

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[Greg Hando]

In the FFA i like Mah Sish from the draw and for the so called roughies i like Pub Blitz he ran home strong from the rear giving Imthemightyquinn a nice cart up to the straight who finished off well.Carribean Blaster if he gets a sit could go well the only thing that worries me is if he gets the top and holds the lead is the way he likes to pull it could bring him undone.From the trial Christenme i think will win the chariots from Bit Of A legend.

[2minuteman]

Blacks A Fake probably still hasn't won you over Ron.

What on earth is this comment referring to.IMO BaF a much better horse than ITMQ has been so far

[2minuteman]

Here is the trial video guys.

http://www.trotstv.com.au/?id=8101#.USxAQeChG70

I have just watched the replay 5-6 times.On the home turn ITMQ 4 wide and on the move,CM maybe a length in front but needed to get out and did so, sprinted under a hold and won the trial in great fashion.ITMQ under some pressure makes no ground on winner. Needed hit out was stable comment on ITMQ run.Needed run 5 days out from a 3200 FFA?? Good luck Sunday to all runners.

[2minuteman]

Could you see another horse in the I.D. final sprint as quick as Quinny did up the straight in that trial?. I can't, including TTL.
So all the Quinnie detractors, haters etc, etc, etc, better hope that the horse gets no luck in running in the final.
Nothing intended towards you gollywog, just using your trial URL.

Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300
and both unextended.

He did not sprint quick enough to beat the winner.
By the by,no hating ITMQ at all,just an opinion that his racing pattern does not engender confidence in a fair dinkum, lets get down and dirty 3200m final.However, Sunday will prove some right and some wrong.No excuses listened to,pro or con.

[2minuteman]

[QUOTE=
Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300 and both unextended.[/QUOTE]

Another point,imagine if a non WA horse was to run,say 48 and change or maybe a C4 horse was to run 51 and change,WOW!!

[p plater]

Before all you form experts get into it, remember the Inter Final is over 3009 mtrs. not 3200mtrs.

Start at the mile marker in the front straight, past the post and 2 laps.

[2minuteman]

Before all you form experts get into it, remember the Inter Final is over 3009 mtrs. not 3200mtrs.

Start at the mile marker in the front straight, past the post and 2 laps.
Sorry,thought 3200,don't know why.

[G-Mac]

I've watched the replay a few times now. My eyes keep getting drawn back to Christen Me. Looked in second gear and was holding off ITMQ in full flight. This guy could be anything.

The way I see ITMQ is this. His greatest advantage is his sheer athletcism and beautiful balance, so he can hit top speed on the bend at GP. Normal horses can't do that. They need to cruise around the bend, get to the top of the straight, balance up and then sprint. By this stage at GP ITMQ is mid sprint while the rest are just getting started. He can give them a start and round them up. He's a wonderful horse, he has changed what "normal" is at GP. The great ones rewrite the script like he has.
However, at Menangle every horse has the opportunity to get in a good 350m sprint and even out to 500m at the point of the turn as that bend is so long and sweeping. The swoopers lose their advantage there. He won't be able to give the field a big start (I have him 1x6 on settling) and will need to do work mid race to be in a position to strike. Can he sprint, settle, and sprint again? I don't know, I can't recall him doing that before (if someone can tell me where to see a replay of him doing it please let me know) and plenty have been burned when he has gone forward early only to find nothing when it matters. There are too many ifs with him for me to take anything like $3.00-$3.20 on offer. For me it is Carribean Blaster. He has the ideal draw and he has proved at the top level this season how tough and brilliant he can be, whichever is required at the time. He is very underrated in my opinion.

[aussiebreno]

Delete post.

[Mighty Atom]

Smoken Up retired? ok will leave smoken up out and use 2nd fastest time Menangle. Oops nope can't do that. 3rd fastest. Washakie. 1.50.5 beats 1.52.2 by 24ms. Apart from I'm Victorious who maybe gets into top 100 which other WA horses have established an impressive record in a fast time? 1.52.2 fast at Menangle??

Washakie in the same category as Smoken Up,and I don't mean retired - you misinterpreted. Glad you used Washakie as an example because it does prove that times don't mean a great deal.
As Gary Hall Snr said, when they sent Washakie to Queensland,'' he was an inferior horse to ITMQ.''

[Mighty Atom]

Washakie in the same category as Smoken Up,and I don't mean retired - you misinterpreted. Glad you used Washakie as an example because it does prove that times don't mean a great deal.
As Gary Hall Snr said, when they sent Washakie to Queensland,'' he was an inferior horse to ITMQ.''

Thanks teecee, will avoid them in future.

[Toohard]

Washakie in the same category as Smoken Up,and I don't mean retired - you misinterpreted. Glad you used Washakie as an example because it does prove that times don't mean a great deal.
As Gary Hall Snr said, when they sent Washakie to Queensland,'' he was an inferior horse to ITMQ.''

Apologies in advance teecee! I just don't understand!! What am I missing?


Rod, please show me where I'm misinterpreting.

In post 25 you said:

"Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300 and both unextended. "

I made the point that that is not fast at all. I used a list of times that included Smoken Up as an example.

You came back with an irrelevant comment about Smoken Up.

So I took Smoken Up out of my example and used Washakie.

Now you say:

"Washakie in the same category as Smoken Up,and I don't mean retired - you misinterpreted."

Washakie in same category as Smoken Up? Which category? The 2 fastest horses ever around Menangle category?

You also said:

"Glad you used Washakie as an example because it does prove that times don't mean a great deal."

But they did in post #25 ??

[broncobrad]

[QUOTE=G-Mac;26022]
The way I see ITMQ is this. His greatest advantage is his sheer athletcism and beautiful balance, so he can hit top speed on the bend at GP. Normal horses can't do that. They need to cruise around the bend, get to the top of the straight, balance up and then sprint. By this stage at GP ITMQ is mid sprint while the rest are just getting started. He can give them a start and round them up. He's a wonderful horse, he has changed what "normal" is at GP. The great ones rewrite the script like he has.

Glen, his dominance at GP puts me in mind of another great 'horses for courses champ' Chief De Beers who had 51 starts and won 20 of them. Every single win was at Doomben...

ITMQ brilliant wind-ups and sprints around those corners at GP were breath taking. That long straight the other day in the trial was a different story.

[Mighty Atom]

Apologies in advance teecee! I just don't understand!! What am I missing?


Rod, please show me where I'm misinterpreting.

In post 25 you said:

"Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300 and both unextended. "

I made the point that that is not fast at all. I used a list of times that included Smoken Up as an example.

You came back with an irrelevant comment about Smoken Up.

So I took Smoken Up out of my example and used Washakie.

Now you say:

"Washakie in the same category as Smoken Up,and I don't mean retired - you misinterpreted."

Washakie in same category as Smoken Up? Which category? The 2 fastest horses ever around Menangle category?

You also said:

"Glad you used Washakie as an example because it does prove that times don't mean a great deal."

But they did in post #25 ??

Do not want to argue with you any more, please refer to Big K's thread.

[Grinder]

So, you ITMQ analysts out there, was the Menangle straight too long for him today? He was hitting the line hard after a sub 55 last 800. Speed is speed, on any size track, around bends or on straights. He showed speed in the trial onTuesday, speed on Thursday and speed today. He was simply faster than than all the others. I think sometimes these things get over-analysed.

[Toohard]

Do not want to argue with you any more, please refer to Big K's thread.

Dont want to argue with you either Rod. Its too hard to work out what arguing about.

Horse went super today. Awesome. Beat that field easy and driven absolutely perfectly.

A great days racing and new facilities at Menangle fantastic. Going to be the best when all finished. Considering all the rain (was still raining here at 6am this morning)
conditions were almost perfect when we got there.

Great job HRNSW.

[G-Mac]

Absolutely stunning. What a run and what a win. He's stamped himself as a true champion for sure.
To have him peaking at exactly the right moment was a great training performance and the drive from Junior was ice cold. And that speed, spine tingling.
What was really pleasing was that the two races shown on free to air were both awesome performances that are the perfect advertisement for the sport. I would have been happy to just see Christen Me's performance in the day and then Quinn comes along and adds the gravy.
Hopefully it will get more people involved/interested.

Also, the day itself was brilliant. So many top shelf races to support the big one. HRNSW has done a great job.
Nothing but positives from yesterday for me (well, when I ignore my account balances it is all sunny)

[HISGEN65]

ITMQ can of course win but I dont think he will...I think Mah Sish & Caribbean Blaster will run strong races up front & I just got a feeling ITMQ will not be close enough to run them down..Terror to Love will be the main danger if close enough at the end...Pub Blitz being the dark horse,he has impressed me no end..so many "what if's"...should be a corker


well I guess a small part of my pre-race post was right BUT jeezzz Quinny proved me wrong..& Im glad he did..
I was so pumped I headed straight outside & worked a few...that was awesome Quinny..simply inspiring..!!!!

[Danno]

72.2% of posters wrong on this thread and I'm among them, I have never been a "bagger" of ITMQ, in fact last year I thought he was a special, however I thought the track would play against him this year among other things, well I'm glad to say I was very wrong, a sensational performance from the little horse with the big finish!

Cheers,
Dan

[aussiebreno]

Hop on the bandwagon now before its too late fellas. A 1.55 MR last quarter 27.5 from 2 lengths off them. Heard it here first.

Some pearlers if you read through this thread. What was that Aussiebreno guy thinking Quinny could only get home in 27.5. Pfft what an idiot!!!! Anyone else game to repost their posts? A few posters might be in hiding though!

[Mighty Atom]

Some pearlers if you read through this thread. What was that Aussiebreno guy thinking Quinny could only get home in 27.5. Pfft what an idiot!!!! Anyone else game to repost their posts? A few posters might be in hiding though!


Yeah aussie,
It was a great song, Simon & Garfunkels....... The Sound of Silence.

[Big K]

Jeez,I screamed and roared when Quinny loomed up around the turn,nearly blew the roof of me house half way down that loooong straight and then punched the air like I just floored Mundine when he tore to the front.Haven't felt like that since...never!,amazing what that great little horse can do for your well being.Ya gotta love Harness Racing when your favourite horse wins the big one's!!

[2minuteman]

"Without qualification"

" IMTHEMIGHTYQUINN est verum validus quod pango "
'

[Danno]

"Without qualification"

" IMTHEMIGHTYQUINN est verum validus quod pango "
'


Good onya Ron, after the run yesterday, how could any of us say it any other way, other than in english rather than latin.....

cheers,
Dan

[2minuteman]

Good onya Ron, after the run yesterday, how could any of us say it any other way, other than in english rather than latin.....

cheers,
Dan
Could not find a Laurel leaf garland.

[Mighty Atom]

ITMQ, The most comprehensive victory of all time in arguably the best field in an I.D. Final.

[little fish]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.

[aussiebreno]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.
What? Smoken Up creates pace = Quinny runs over them easier. Head to head record suggests that.

[little fish]

I made the comment with the following races in mind,
2012 Victoria Cup
2011 Victoria Cup
2011 Miracle Mile
2011 Inter Dominion

Smoken Up, when contesting races against ITMQ and racing somewhere near his best, has had a significant impact on ITMQ's performance in said races.

What have I said that is wrong?

[aussiebreno]

I made the comment with the following races in mind,
2012 Victoria Cup
2011 Victoria Cup
2011 Miracle Mile
2011 Inter Dominion

Smoken Up, when contesting races against ITMQ and racing somewhere near his best, has had a significant impact on ITMQ's performance in said races.

What have I said that is wrong?
That's a bit like saying Mr Feelgood has a big impact on how Blacks a Fake raced and basing it on only the 2009 ID while ignoring a handful of other races.

Rather strange comment indeed.
ITMQs performances in 2012 Vic Cup (still run of the race) and Miracle Mile were down a shade due to being burnt out of the gate. Not because of Smoken Up. 2011 ID ITMQ won. 2011 Vic Cup ITMQ was crook.

[Mighty Atom]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.

All of ITMQ's wins have been pretty amazing, but to me his three stand out wins have been the 2012 I.D.Final, as we know the horse was on the verge of being scratched because of an elevated temperature, and the way he won, Brian Hancock stated, "No horse should be able to do that." The 2013 I.D. heat win in an amazing 1:54:7 over 2536 metres on an 800 metre track;by far the most impressive of all the heat wins, and of course his 2013 win. I think ITMQ has raced a few times with a few issues that may have affected him but the horse has thickened out with age, has become a lot stronger and mentally on cue. Having said all of that, if he maintains this sort of racing level then with all due respect to Smoken Up or any other horse for that matter, as Newt said in my favourite Sci - Fi horror movie 'Aliens'......."it wont make any difference".

[p plater]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.

Understand where your coming from Barry, SU up front running them along and IMQ finishing all over them if good enough with the faster speed.

Just for the record and I think this is Barry's point....3009m run in a mile rate of 1.58.1 ...track records show only one other race over 3009m, a TROT STAND run in a mile rate of 2.01.2..........They may have gone a lot quicker if SU had been there.

Just a thought......Well done IMQ

[Grinder]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.

ITMQ and SU have clashed 8 times.
ITMQ finished (officially) ahead of SU 6 of the 8 times.
In these 8 clashes, ITMQ has finished out of the top three places only once.
In these 8 clashes SU has finished out of of the top three places 4 times.

Hardly an argument to say that SU actually made a marked difference to ITMQ, I'd say. So, in half of those clashes SU was unplaced.

SU is a great champion. He is the fastest miler in Australasia and as tough as any horse that has ever raced. He rightly and deservedly has his place in the list of our greatest champions. However, he has not been shown to be superior to ITMQ.

[Toohard]

ITMQ is no doubt a sensational horse, but it amazes me a bit how well he goes with no Smoken Up in the race (or takes little/no part) compared to how he goes when Smoken Up is in the race and is doing his thing.

For whatever reason, and don't jump down my throat, there is a marked difference, that is all I am saying.

Posted something here a while back:

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?3764-Fremantle-Cup/page3

Look in that attachment (its not very clear sorry but hard to get formatting right on here).
At top. Ignore the later comments as was having some fun with Brendan.

The horse would appear to be driven differently when Smoken Up is in the race. He runs the gate when he can so he can be up closer.

That's not his caper imo.

His caper is what he did on Sunday. I made comment to someone on here before the race that I thought he would win with the proviso "Don't run the gate Gary". When he didn't, race was over at winning post first time imo.

They 2 great horses but very hard to compare them to each other given their different racing styles.

Could Smoken Up do what ITMQ did Sunday? No way imo. Not his caper.
Could ITMQ sit outside Blacks A Fake and win a Miracle Mile? No way imo. Not his caper. Could he do what Smoken Up did in the Len Smith? No way imo.

The discussion will go on forever! We should just count ourselves lucky we have them both going around and promoting the discussion.

[aussiebreno]

Posted something here a while back:

http://www.harnessracingforum.com/showthread.php?3764-Fremantle-Cup/page3

Look in that attachment (its not very clear sorry but hard to get formatting right on here).
At top. Ignore the later comments as was having some fun with Brendan.

The horse would appear to be driven differently when Smoken Up is in the race. He runs the gate when he can so he can be up closer.

That's not his caper imo.

His caper is what he did on Sunday. I made comment to someone on here before the race that I thought he would win with the proviso "Don't run the gate Gary". When he didn't, race was over at winning post first time imo.

They 2 great horses but very hard to compare them to each other given their different racing styles.

Could Smoken Up do what ITMQ did Sunday? No way imo. Not his caper.
Could ITMQ sit outside Blacks A Fake and win a Miracle Mile? No way imo. Not his caper. Could he do what Smoken Up did in the Len Smith? No way imo.

The discussion will go on forever! We should just count ourselves lucky we have them both going around and promoting the discussion.
Exactly right. Two different horses. It's like trying to compare Black Caviar and Makybe Diva, Usain Bolt and Stephen Kiprotich. They have different abilities which win them races. Smoken Up shouldn't be lambasted because he doesn't have electrifying high speed and ITMQ shouldnt be lambasted because he isn't as tough as old boots.

[aussiebreno]

Happy Im Themightyquinn day gents! 5 years to the day since one of the greatest performances we've ever seen. Still gives me shivers.

[Richard prior]

Same here Brent, Don’t think I’ll ever forget that, I still remember Mount Eden’s MM, Those type of performances definitely stick in your memory