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Maorisidol
04-02-2013, 09:30 PM
Terror To Love
Christen Me
Mah Sish
Excel Stride
Caribbean Blaster
Smoken Up
Chariot King
?
?
?
What are your thoughts folks.
Barrier draw all important naturally.
Lance will want to lead, can he do it again? Said to be fresher for this MM than his previous but of course older...

broncobrad
04-05-2013, 10:28 AM
Too early for any full blown confidence in a selection Ash, as you say the barrier draw vital when assessing the chances, but barring mishaps like A FLAT TYRE (Grrrr), Christen Me, ultra-impressive in the Chariots, is my on top horse. He really IS the next big thing.

Grinder
04-06-2013, 12:10 AM
Caribbean Blaster looked slick tonight in the Stampede over 1200, rating sub 1:50.
Excel Stride's last performance over a mile was super impressive, also. Looks like he might be hitting top form at the right time.
And, of course, Terror To Love is desperate to nail this one to boost his credentials as a future sire.
What ever happens, they must break 1:50 this year, given good track conditions.

Karinya
04-07-2013, 01:41 AM
I was impressed with Chariot King tonight in the Newcastle Mile. I am not sure if they are coming over or not but I have been impressed with Bettor Cover Lover since its return from injury. Ran some good races in NSW from bad barrier draws and rand 3rd in the Auckland Cup. Excel Stride I think can run time. Regardless Lance will run them along so should be great.

broncobrad
04-07-2013, 02:14 AM
No doubt Excel Stride is humming along at present, fairly convincing at Newcastle tonight. I admire Chariot Kings honesty every time he steps out and was even cheering him home over the top of Excel tonight (even though I backed Sixpence who was being fairly conservatively driven before she struck terminal interference). Would love to see Tappy win a MM but Chariot King would need absolutely everything to go right for him. Still Christen Me for now.

2minuteman
04-07-2013, 11:09 PM
Whatever barrier,Smoken Up to lead,Christen Me to blowse him in a THRILLER.Time? Sub '49.

mightymo
04-08-2013, 02:18 AM
Smoken Up and Christen Me both confirmed today as NON starters

aussiebreno
04-08-2013, 06:34 PM
Bugger. There is usually one or two out of their grade in the Mile, but with those three confirmed non-starters (Im Themightyquinn, Smoken Up and Christen Me) it will be a sub par Mile. Still will be a good race with Blaster, Mah Sish, Excel Stride, Terror To Love and whoever else..Chariot King prob one. Those 5 with the 3 confirmed non-starters would have been one hell of a race!

broncobrad
04-08-2013, 09:49 PM
Smoken Up and Christen Me both confirmed today as NON starters

Knew Christen Me's connections were considering staying at home, they had been umming and ahhing for a while before deciding no MM at this stage. That 4 yr old had a second to none chance of winning what Breno has labelled a sub-par Mile field, no ITMQ or SU going around. What is going on here? In years gone by horses would run through brick walls to get a start in the race. Excel Stride has the race at his mercy!

littlelenny
04-09-2013, 12:29 AM
I would like to see Chariot King get a start. He's run in the Newcastle Mile was impressive, it would be a big thrill for Tappy to win a MM. I will have a few bucks on him this week from the draw and if he can get into the MM I will be cheering him all the way.

Maorisidol
04-09-2013, 01:23 AM
Terror To Love
Christen Me
Mah Sish
Excel Stride
Caribbean Blaster
Smoken Up
Chariot King
?
?
?
What are your thoughts folks.
Barrier draw all important naturally.
Lance will want to lead, can he do it again? Said to be fresher for this MM than his previous but of course older...

Terror To Love
Mah Sish
Excel Stride
Caribbean Blaster
Chariot King
These are a given, those to follow are stocking fillers...
Will b a great race, but damn shame the 2 big guns are scratched! We miss the new young kiwi star to be and one of Australia's best ever street fighters who will now probably never clash.

Maorisidol
04-14-2013, 02:55 PM
Hopefully BABY BLING might get a run on last nights effort!

Great sprint home Adam, and nice hip n shoulder to Chariot King at the top of the straight, but quite right in essence as he plodded very disappointingly from there...
Great run by the winner, if he leads and does that in the MM who can beat him at that pace or faster? 1:50.9
Mah Sish disappointing too even tho in the death, and bad luck to Caribbean...

p plater
04-15-2013, 10:03 PM
Crystal ball time from me. Not the strongest field ever but here goes.
They will take 1st and 2nd from the qualifying races.

Excel Stride
Chariot King
Mach Alert
Baby Bling (for Adam)

This week add
Gaius Caesar
Louis Lad
I suspect a winning mile rate around 1.52.5

Then choose 2 from
Terror to love (kiwi)
Mah Sish (if in first 4)
Caribbean Blaster (if in first 4)

Triple V
04-16-2013, 01:37 AM
Hopefully BABY BLING might get a run on last nights effort!

[VVV] Good for you Adam, hope she does too.

Maorisidol
04-21-2013, 12:26 AM
So now the big question is,
will Carribean Blaster get a run?
Does he deserve a run?
Same 2 questions for Mah Sish...
i dont think either should get a run based on "qualifying"...
TTL questionable also, but because he has come a long way and previous resume, he will get in i reckon.

HaroldParker
04-21-2013, 04:20 AM
It's turned into a bit of a farce. Which is a shame because it's the Miracle Mile but the timing is awful.

So what we have is a Saturday night FFA with a couple of Kiwi's who didn't earn a run but because they're here, throw them in.

Gaius Caesar was ridiculous tonight. 55.1 from last, 7-8 wide turning. I was on him and it looked impossible.

The 200-1 EW paying to 4th and another for 50's a place is looking alright.

Trouble is, Team Mac has the speed and the initiative to get forward, Chariot King will get outta the way quick smart, the 2 Kiwi's will sit back and do nothing as usual = slightly better than 28 to open, middle half of 60 and 26 flat home.

Mach Beauty was an absolute must.

HaroldParker
04-21-2013, 04:29 AM
It was never going to happen, David Hercules was awesome @ Gloucester Park on Friday night rating 53 in the death over 1700. The week before he was 3 Wide the final circuit rating 54 over 2100.

They've traveled with him a lot, I'm sure he would of come if invited.

This mob have no idea.

HaroldParker
04-21-2013, 04:38 AM
besides turning up, what have the majority of that field done to belong in a Miracle Mile ahead of David Hercules ?

Toohard
04-21-2013, 10:57 AM
Crystal ball time from me. Not the strongest field ever but here goes.
They will take 1st and 2nd from the qualifying races.

Excel Stride
Chariot King
Mach Alert
Baby Bling (for Adam)

This week add
Gaius Caesar
Louis Lad
I suspect a winning mile rate around 1.52.5

Then choose 2 from
Terror to love (kiwi)
Mah Sish (if in first 4)
Caribbean Blaster (if in first 4)

Gday Bailey
What brand is your crystal ball?

p plater
04-21-2013, 12:14 PM
Paul I might need to get it adjusted, Louis Lad finished 3rd.
When you look at their records, Terror To Love and Mah Sish are not milers and IMO should not have been selected, but when you're short of Headliners you need them to stop it being a local derby or a regular Saturday night FFA.
Just my thoughts.

Mighty Atom
04-21-2013, 01:56 PM
It was never going to happen, David Hercules was awesome @ Gloucester Park on Friday night rating 53 in the death over 1700. The week before he was 3 Wide the final circuit rating 54 over 2100.

They've traveled with him a lot, I'm sure he would of come if invited.

This mob have no idea.

Hi Bob, have to agree with you, I prefer the old invitation only format but on saying that we could have ended up with two duds like Caribbean Blaster and Mah Sish. I reckon that 3009 metre I.D.Final knocked the stuffing out of most of them ( Mach Alert & ITMQ the exceptions ) ; maybe the I.D final and MM have to be some 6 months or more apart. I suppose it's a balancing act but with the' having to show up to qualify' rules and with the poor record of past Cordina Sprint winners
in the Miracle Mile I see many of the top horses preferring to avoid in the future particularly those from W.A. unless it's an invitation only.

Maorisidol
04-21-2013, 07:09 PM
It was never going to happen, David Hercules was awesome @ Gloucester Park on Friday night rating 53 in the death over 1700. The week before he was 3 Wide the final circuit rating 54 over 2100.

They've traveled with him a lot, I'm sure he would of come if invited.

This mob have no idea.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing Bob, his form prior to this wasn't crash hot I don't believe without looking, and if he was such a hot chance why didn't his owners nominate him for the last 2 weeks at menangle?
His last 2 runs were his best for a long time from what I have seen, and I don't think even his owners or trainer maybe knew he was going to fly the last 2 weeks in perth otherwise why wouldn't he b there?
I guess 2 100k races then a MM were not enough of a lure?
Or maybe they thought he wasn't running well enough to justify the journey against that opposition. So 2 things have happened, the opposition have gone crap and he has had a turnaround!
That's racing, who would have said 3 weeks ago that Mah Sish and Blaster would go so bad!

Grinder
04-22-2013, 01:46 AM
This is a pretty unexciting MM, IMO. Hopefully it will be back to the expected quality when it's held in November and SU, ITMQ and CM are fresh for a new season of racing.

littlelenny
04-22-2013, 01:54 AM
The rescheduled timeslot definetly wasnt ideal for the big players but what we are left with is a fairly even field so should still be a good race. I think the barrier draw has made it a little more interesting because if Excel stride would of drawn to lead easy then it would probabaly be game over.

But from the draw he should have to do a bit of work to find the lead and although he should still win i think its going to be a close finish.

Im still hoping Chariot king gets a dream run and can get home for Tappy and although i think Binskins horse ran his final last week hes still a hope from the draw.

LisaB25
04-22-2013, 02:26 AM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing Bob, his form prior to this wasn't crash hot I don't believe without looking, and if he was such a hot chance why didn't his owners nominate him for the last 2 weeks at menangle?
His last 2 runs were his best for a long time from what I have seen, and I don't think even his owners or trainer maybe knew he was going to fly the last 2 weeks in perth otherwise why wouldn't he b there?
I guess 2 100k races then a MM were not enough of a lure?
Or maybe they thought he wasn't running well enough to justify the journey against that opposition. So 2 things have happened, the opposition have gone crap and he has had a turnaround!
That's racing, who would have said 3 weeks ago that Mah Sish and Blaster would go so bad!

Agree if the owners and trainer wanted to make the mm should of gone to Sydney. He is one of the few west australians who have performed well over east previously.

His form this prep has been very good 4 wins from the 6 starts and two thirds with last 3 wins all sub 1.55 over both the sprint and 2130 distances, has broken both those distance records this time in.

golden balls
04-22-2013, 02:32 AM
Has anyone got the draw for the MM?

broncobrad
04-22-2013, 12:26 PM
TTL cannot take a trick in these mile race draws, I am sure the connections would be disappointed by the 10 gate no end. The draw for the WHOLE field is a real leveller with all the big guns out wide. I don't do crystal ball stuff, another member has got the mortgage on that, but Excel Stride will just go forward and by the time they reach the back straight, will be in front and controlling the race...and should be winning it. TTL should get cover into the race and if May remembers he is in a race and not day dreaming like he did in NZ, he might get going a bit earlier and flood home. Mach Alert and Gaius Ceasar (who should get a soft run and get out late) for the minors. Best of luck with Baby Bling for Adam. Hmmm...for a bloke who doesn't do crystal balls, guess I just did one!

Toni
04-22-2013, 02:58 PM
Does anyone know why the emergencies are drawn at the same time?

Just had a quick look at the market on tab.com.au

Excel Stride 2.25/1.19
Mach Alert 3.20/1.33
Terror to Love 6.00/1.76
Gaius Caesar 7.50/2.00
Chariot King 14.00/3.00
Mah Sish 17.00/3.46
Baby Bling 21.00/4.07
Pure Power 26.00/4.84
Mach Beauty (em1) 31.00/5.61
Glengowan (em2) 61.00/10.23

I thought that Excel Stride will launch out of the gates with Mach Alert following him across - from there I have no idea haha. No idea on Pure Power, or what TTL can do from out wide, haven't been following much lately, have been very busy.

Mitch
04-23-2013, 01:08 AM
I had the good fortune of meeting John Tapp at the APG sales this year and tonight I watched the story on him on In The Gig. I must say I am thrilled for him that Chariot King was invited to start. His run in the Newcastle mile was excellent. It is also a just reward for a fantastic ambassador for the sport of harness racing! Best of luck John I'll be cheering for you.

(And for Baby Bling.)

HaroldParker
04-24-2013, 03:39 AM
So this Miracle Mile was a Heat and Final format ?

Newcaste and the 2 x 100K FFA's this past fortnight.

If that's the case, let's hope they stick a fork in it. It's an abject failure.

They were clearly stuck for worthy aspirants. Surely someone over the Pecan Pie makes the suggestion that they should look elsewhere rather than the last fortnight's also rans ?

Timing wise, it's slim pickings but David Hercules would of added an ounce of X Factor. In fact from Chariot King or Mah Sish' gate he's pushing for favoritism.

& I have one going for plenty so I'm glad he's not there.

p plater
04-24-2013, 08:23 PM
Anyway you do the form and crystal ball , Excel Stride looks a good thing on Sunday. Fastest over the mile in the last month of racing, the most agressive driver (with Lance not there).
In fact I took the early odds pre barrier draw.
That said, should Mach Beauty get a run the whole race could change. he is very quick early and would hold the lead which puts Excel Stride in the death working, then watch the swoopers come into play.
Adam, for me this is your fellas best racing senario from your draw....good luck

Mighty Atom
04-25-2013, 10:47 PM
Can't see anything beating Mach Alert or Excel Stride. Not particularly spectacular this year especially for 750 thousand.

aussiebreno
04-25-2013, 11:21 PM
Glengowan is 2nd emerg and pretty unlikely to gain a start. Not sure how cluey Binskin is but I wouldnt be throwing out pot shots if I were you.

golden balls
04-26-2013, 03:38 AM
No it wasnt a heat and final format. if it was Ma sish and terror to love would not be in the field!

Everyone was invited to come along and show what they have got! David Hercules did not come because they didnt believe he was up too it.

Maybe they could go with your way and send out invite would have been a big field!! Here are the Invites

Terror to love (Cant go menangle track)
Smokin Up (Didnt wanna come)
Carribean Blaster (out of form)
Excel stride
Mah Sish (Out of form)
Chisten me (didnt wanna come)
The mighty Quinn (didnt wanna come)
Mach Alert

5 horse race with with 3 horses that cant go at the moment! I think this new system gives everyone a fair chance to come and run you dont have to win to qulify. A la MSISH TTL

Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild
04-27-2013, 01:37 AM
With all due respect to the runners in the Miracle Mile, I cant help but think HRNSW have just blown $950,000!

golden balls
04-27-2013, 03:27 PM
With all due respect to the runners in the Miracle Mile, I cant help but think HRNSW have just blown $950,000!

Im not sure why but anyhow? why have they blown $950,000 do you believe they have left out the wrong horses? who should be in the field?

broncobrad
04-27-2013, 09:20 PM
With all due respect to the runners in the Miracle Mile, I cant help but think HRNSW have just blown $950,000!

Agree Leigh, this could have been a $100K race and the same horses would still be there. Lets hope the next edition is paid the due respect the race deserves with a field full of stars worthy of INVITATION, not just making up the numbers. Its hard not to say anything that any would not make any of the MM owners feel aggrieved, just having a runner in the field would make them feel proud, but quality wise this is nothing more than a standard Saturday night free for all. There will be some very fortunate connections about to make some big bucks...that's how the cookie has crumbled, and good luck to them. You can only race whatever is in it.

Just on the race, I am sure most of us would love to see Tappys horse go well, I just cannot see it happening. This will be a McCarthy benefit afternoon.

Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild
04-28-2013, 02:16 AM
Im not sure why but anyhow? why have they blown $950,000 do you believe they have left out the wrong horses? who should be in the field?

Sorry Peter. I didn't think I'd need to explain it. Do you think HRNSW would be happy with the quality of the fields assembled for a $750,000, and two $100,000 lead up races? Down here in Victoria, you wouldn't even know the Miracle Mile is on!

Triple V
04-28-2013, 02:29 AM
Privately I think they'd probably tell you they weren't happy Leigh...but at the same time it makes me wonder just how much $$$ has to be on offer to get the best of the best to show up and race? It absolutely amazes me that a shot at the fat end of $950,000 is apparently not a big enough carrot. Go figure eh?

aussiebreno
04-28-2013, 09:13 AM
I cant remember a year where I havent been waiting in anticipation and expecting something special to be produced from the Miracle Mile. This year is different. There is merely a small amount of hope TTL, and even Mah Sissh, can produce their best and provide us with a race that doesnt resemble a $25,000 FFA. Excel Stride wasnt at his best early in his prep and went down or barely hang on to win a few but McCarthy had him peaking for the ID and again for today. My tip is that he will become a millionaire pacer today.

eliteblood
04-28-2013, 11:02 AM
I cant remember a year where I havent been waiting in anticipation and expecting something special to be produced from the Miracle Mile. This year is different. There is merely a small amount of hope TTL, and even Mah Sissh, can produce their best and provide us with a race that doesnt resemble a $25,000 FFA. Excel Stride wasnt at his best early in his prep and went down or barely hang on to win a few but McCarthy had him peaking for the ID and again for today. My tip is that he will become a millionaire pacer today.

If so, then it will be a very well deserved reward for Emilio and his wife. His financial input has been mammoth over the last few years in particular and we would have all been much worse off without him.
I will be happy if Excel Stride rewards him today.

p plater
04-28-2013, 11:18 AM
This race may not have the " Pin Up" horses involved today but it does contain horses owned by loyal followers of the sport. They incur the same racing costs as the headline horses.......good luck to them.
Owners get a buzz out of winning a maiden race, so to have a runner in a G1 must be a great feeling. This is an example of the level playing field we have been asking for and should inspire others to get involved.
Good luck to all owners and safe racing......tell your driver not to leave the track wondering...have a big go. It will be a great race if the final quarter is the slowest.

doinmabest
04-28-2013, 11:23 AM
I know it has been covered off in this thread but the fact that this Miracle Mile is run 7 weeks after an ID series, out of its normal (November) slot to accomodate building works has really seen what can be described as a new look MM. No out and out superstars presay,though we still have a dual NZ Cup Winner, (albeit out of form) A Hunter Cup Winner, A Group 1 winning Mare, a couple of Derby winners (one of which placed in the ID Final), a two time Group 1 winner.....Of the 8 in the field, 5 were in the ID Final and the others raced on the day..... Given the timing, circumstances etc I don't think it is too bad a field. Sure a few controversial outcomes and disappointing no shows but they will undoubtedly come to TPM in November.....
Cheers

littlelenny
04-28-2013, 12:30 PM
Although the fields not as strong as past years i think its a fairly even field, so it still should be an exciting race just as long as all drivers remember its The Miracle Mile and they go out there and as Bailey said "dont leave the track wondering".
Just as we have saw Melpark Major vs Smoken up in 2009.
Blackie vs Smoken Up in 2010,
and in 2011 we saw a great race with Quinnie and Smoken up go to war early and then the mccarthys came round and Franco Jamar put pressure to Smoken Up.
Id love to see Baby bling or Chariot King go for an all the way win.
If they let Excel stride and Mach Alert control the race then Emilio may as well collect the trophy now.

Toohard
04-28-2013, 01:53 PM
Sorry Peter. I didn't think I'd need to explain it. Do you think HRNSW would be happy with the quality of the fields assembled for a $750,000, and two $100,000 lead up races? Down here in Victoria, you wouldn't even know the Miracle Mile is on!

Todays (Sunday) Herald Sun has no mention of Miracle Mile in the form guide. Nothing at all. Papers full of pages and pages of garbage (some stories copied from yesterdays paper) but couldn't fit even a basic list of fields for Menangle. Pretty poor (typical) performance.

aussiebreno
04-28-2013, 03:36 PM
Todays (Sunday) Herald Sun has no mention of Miracle Mile in the form guide. Nothing at all. Papers full of pages and pages of garbage (some stories copied from yesterdays paper) but couldn't fit even a basic list of fields for Menangle. Pretty poor (typical) performance.
Typically for me on a Sunday I had to internally debate between the Sydney or Melbourne paper. Singo and Gai frobt page cameo plus Carltons win swayed me towards the Hun. It doesnt bother me personally but its appalling the fields werent in there.
Brad mentioned a Mccarthy benefit day. I was to late to get on Corzin Terror but am having a 4 horse parlay. Sixpencd, Grand Stride, Excel Stride, All Eyes on Us. That isnt all his chances either. Could be a big day for them.

gutwagon
04-28-2013, 04:15 PM
Toolhard- I went thru the Sun twice looking for the Menangle fields then I asked the old man if he had taken them out ? I can't believe they are not in there !
To be fair it does say Menangle Harness is on (page 52). Don't expect the pools to be very big in Victoria today !

p plater
04-28-2013, 09:55 PM
Congrats to all the Owners of Baby Bling. I never expected Mah Sish to hold the death. As Adam mentioned on this site, his mare can put in a big finish.
There is not many mares with a sub 1.51 to their name......congats again, nice to watch.

Mitch
04-28-2013, 11:26 PM
What a cracking day at Menangle! The sun was shining and the track was on fire. Never thought I would see 2yo's go 1.52.1, Our Sixpence smashed them, Mach Beauty was electric and then little Baby Bling too strong in 1.50 with Terror to Love to huge in second!

Great day.

Congrats to Harvey, Adam and all the owners.

broncobrad
04-28-2013, 11:52 PM
Echoing Mitch, congrats Adam and Harvey. Two weeks ago Adam was just hopeful of getting a run, tonight he basks in MM glory. What a mighty little mare you have Adam and the thrill of a lifetime for you. The McCarthy clan can rightly crow till the sun comes up...what an absolutely dominating day by the family. Twelve months ago we were giving it to Matty Rue for his youthful exuberance costing him, now he sits on top of the dung heap. Has there been a better drive ever in the Mile?

Lots more to come from the day, plenty of controversy to get through. Have to say I am eating crow about Excel Stride today but I am sure there is more to come. What the heck was the story with Gauis Ceasar? Somehow this race always produces a story! This year no different. Thought TTL was pretty good today too.

littlelenny
04-29-2013, 12:57 AM
Definetly Congralutions to Adam, Harvey and the rest of the owners.

What a day for the Mccarthy family and Matty Rue a day he will never forget.

Great to see an action packed race and even better to see Baby Bling put her name in the history book alongside some of our greatest.

As usual the MM never disappoints with all the controversy it brings with it every year its followed by a race to remember.

HISGEN65
04-29-2013, 01:10 PM
Congrats to all the connections..it would of been an amazing thrill for you all.
What a super little mare...well done to all concerned.

Danno
04-29-2013, 02:53 PM
Congratulations Harvey and Adam, I can only imagine the high you guys are on at the moment, wonderful win by a very gutsy little mare and a super drive from Mat Rue.

Cheers,
Dan

Maorisidol
04-29-2013, 04:30 PM
Big Congrats to Adam and Harvey, nice little collect for 3rd with Bling It On too just for the hell of it!
We now have Australias new sit sprint Queen! Will be many more wins to come.
On another note, kudos to Terror To Love to finally get a decent pay cheque to take away = $136,000 NZ Dollars. It wasnt the pay chq or resume boost they were looking for but hey, its better than not getting a place like previous, so well done for coming back over and having another go. Was rewarded, and we saw more of the "real" TTL. But as is always shown, coming from near last when running 1:50's is near impossible, he got very close running past everything else, look forward to seeing him back for MM2 later in the year.
But that up and coming super star may be here too...Christen Me

Grinder
04-29-2013, 06:38 PM
Well done to all concerned with Baby Bling. Great drive, great speed, and against very worthy opposition.
Does that now make her the fastest mare ever in Australasia?
TTL was most impressive, too, but the mare had stolen a march, as they say.
Presumably that gets her an automatic invite to the November MM.
What happened to Excel Stride, I wonder?

gollywog
04-30-2013, 09:11 AM
Well done to all concerned with Baby Bling. Great drive, great speed, and against very worthy opposition.
Does that now make her the fastest mare ever in Australasia?
TTL was most impressive, too, but the mare had stolen a march, as they say.
Presumably that gets her an automatic invite to the November MM.
What happened to Excel Stride, I wonder?


Excel stride is now in nz for fridays $100,000, 4 - 5yo ffa, 2700m http://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/fields/050302fd.htm#Race-8

Greg Hando
04-30-2013, 02:01 PM
He is scratched now.

2minuteman
05-03-2013, 02:05 PM
Do we have a date in Nov for MM yet?

aussiebreno
05-03-2013, 02:53 PM
Do we have a date in Nov for MM yet?
It's usually the last weekend in Nov.