Lauren Panella - Newcastle Herald

[Pena]

Has anyone read this story.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1663231/lauren-panella-jockeying-for-harness-drivers-premiership/

"There was a blow-up today when I got here," she said yesterday.


"But there's only one of me. I look after my pocket and a lot of people don't like that.

"I used to be very loyal and I would jump off things that were going to win onto horses I used to drive, but it was putting me out of pocket."

I think all these winners have gone to Laurens head.

This would have to be some of the most arrogant comments I have seen by anyone in the industry.

[Danno]

G'day Jack,
we all see things differently, I think young Lauren is a bit entitled to be a bit cheeky, she is certainly an undeniable talent and at about 19 years of age I think we all get a bit full of ourselves from time to time ( I know I certainly did and had not achieved anything like the success Lauren has at the same stage)

the old saying applies,you cant put an old head on young shoulders!

cheers,
Dan

[Triple V]

Has anyone read this story.

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1663231/lauren-panella-jockeying-for-harness-drivers-premiership/

"There was a blow-up today when I got here," she said yesterday.


"But there's only one of me. I look after my pocket and a lot of people don't like that.

"I used to be very loyal and I would jump off things that were going to win onto horses I used to drive, but it was putting me out of pocket."

I think all these winners have gone to Laurens head.

This would have to be some of the most arrogant comments I have seen by anyone in the industry.

[VVV] Good for her. I've got absolutely no problem with that whatsoever.
Lauren has to make as much Hay as she can while ever the Sun continues to shine.
Just as a Trainer or an Owner who thinks their Driver is not doing so well is quite entitled to bump them off for a better, more in form Driver....Lauren is quite entitled to choose off out of form/lesser horses in search of more competitive assignments.
It's a well accepted fact of life in the TB's where the Monkeys will jump ship at the drop of a hat if they think another horse is a better winning chance.
Drivers get 4/5ths of sweet f/a for their efforts at the best of times so I can't blame her or anyone else for single-mindedly chasing the $.

[G-Mac]

My only issue would be if she blows up when, because she is out of form, a trainer tips her out of one of her regular drives at an owner's request. As that hasn't happened I have no issue. I don't see what she has said as arrogant. It was very confident, and that is to be expected from someone in her position right now.

[Pena]

There is a definite difference between being cheeky and being totally disrespectful.

Don't thank the people who got her started bag their slow horses.

At this point in time she is only a flash in the pan and she is carrying on like she is Vin Knight reincarnated.

Pull you head in Lauren one day you will get the sack off a good horse and I am sure you will carry on like a good sort.

When you have driven as many winners as Gavin Lang come and let me know, not likely to happen.

Just because you are 19 doesn't mean you can carry on like a little spoilt child.

Nathan, Lauren as a minimum on her prizemoney and drives would have earnt over $100k this year certainly 4/5th of FA considering she is only 19.

[aussiebreno]

If she burns people in the process that will bite her in the bum in the future and that will be her problem. (Note: Burning people and leaving people with sour grapes because you chose to drive another horse are two different things)

But as for being forthright and taking the best possible drives, nothing wrong with that. A bit of honesty in an interview, refreshing change. This isn't Canberra.

Harness racing...where making no dollars is the social norm, your first dollar everyone wants be your best mate but making a second dollar and you are frowned upon.

[Pena]

I don't begrudge anyone making a good living from the industry, Brenno.

I agree I like people to be forthright.

Lauren's true colours have been shown, It's all about Lauren.

"I used to be very loyal" - Well you had to be because nobody else wanted you.

[Triple V]

Harness racing...where making no dollars is the social norm, your first dollar everyone wants be your best mate but making a second dollar and you are frowned upon.

[VVV] That's it in a nutshell Breno. Punch a string of slow horses around until you ultimately die in the gutter of starvation and you'll be fondly remembered. Win races on a regular basis and you'll become quickly & widely despised.

[broncobrad]

Sorry Jack, I'm with the rest of the flock. Maybe Darren Binskin has been TOO positive an influence on her...but I cannot see that as being a bad thing. That image of him stating his case as to why his charge shouldn't take its place in the MM resonates long and loud. Sticking up for your dig is the Aussie way. Self belief is what seems to be the difference between the elite and the also rans. I cannot fault the way that this kid is focussed on success. Don't think it has gone to her head either, more so a mature attitude as to where she sees her future in the game. Go Lauren.

[Pena]

VVV, what a load of over simplistic crap you have written.

You are obviously as juvenile as Ms Panella.

Kicking people in the bollocks that have supported you that is the way to be widely despised.

People understand if you have made it and have plenty of oppurtunities but don't ram it down your throat and pretend your the pretty girl in the playground and all the boys are fighting over you.

You enjoy her sheer arrogance, I personally do not, but pretending these comments are somehow justified shows how immature you are.

[aussiebreno]

Panella has obviously turned Jack down.

On another note, did you ever ask her to drive any of your horses Jack?

[Pena]

To be honest Lauren has had a couple of drives for me in the past on pretty ordinary animals.

She did a really good job on them to, considering their ability.

Funnily enough it was over 12 months ago and she was quite charming and seemed quite genuinely thankful for the oppurtunity as she only had a couple of drives at the meeting.

At present I don't have any horses in Sydney so she has not been a driving option of late, but the facts are that I now feel she was doing me a favour by driving my slow horse and quite frankly would instruct my trainer if she was the only option to drive to scratch my horse.

Confidence - Fine, Successful - Fantastic, But show some respect.

Also if you try another word except "DEFINITELY" Lauren people may think you have a bit more of a brain.

[Triple V]

C'mon now Jack, level with me here. This is a case of unrequited love...is it not?
You saw Lauren there with regular winner's circle appearences, her flashy UFO Sulky and bright white teeth and your old heart went all aflutter & you wandered over and did the "Hello Darlin', what's a nice girl like you doin' in a place like this? Can a buy you a Pie and a can of Coke?".....and for some reason or other, despite you wearing your best brown going out cardigan with its overwhelmingly attractive odour of Moth Balls, she gave you the brush, inexplicably she wasn't immediately swept of her feet. Geeze. These Women, they are funny creatures some times eh?

[broco]

Been getting a good laugh out of this post, I didn't know lauren from a bar of soap until a recent invite to menangle on len smith mile day and being a first timer at menangle I was a total fish out of water, now this being a big day for lauren you would have thought she wouldn't have had time for anyone but herself with the commitments she had INSTEAD she gave a country hick like me a tour of where I needed to be, introduced me to everyone I needed to know and put any worries I had about seeing menangle for the first ever time in my life, on a group one day, in front of that crowd, on a monte trotter to rest!!
I personally found her full of confidence but great to talk to and a person who has time for everyone, I wonder if lauren was a bloke would anyone even comment on her supposed arrogance? I highly doubt it because there are a fair few very very arrogant high profile male drivers out there that everyone thinks the sun shines out their rearends.

I will leave you with this one jack, from someone who used to make their living from riding gallopers (where honestly jockeys are never loyal) loyalty is a great thing but the loyal trainers and owners are the ones who come and tell you your free to get off their slow ones and get yourself the good ones and then come and give you a pat on the back when you beat their horse, they are just happy to see the person they helped get started with their slow ones go onto great things.

[broncobrad]

Success appears to be the common denominator on this topic Jack. Would be interested to hear your views on Shane Trittons decision in regard to loyalty.

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/HRNSW-Racing-Wrap---Tritton-Makes-Tough-Decision

[Pena]

Jaimie, you really are a funny guys. I am sure all the customers of the Mean Fiddler and its syndicate are over the moon with you with regards Owens Delight. How much did they stump up before you moved it on. 14 wins later you must be a good judge. With your level of comedic talent, you should seriously think about a job as a comedian as obviously your bloodstock business is a failure.


Brad, you seem to have missed my point. Never once have I had a go at anyones loyalty. Shane Tritton and his owners are more than entitled to change stable drivers or even owners change trainers if they choose at the end of the day they pay the bills. When Excel Stride was taken from Elizabeth Heath I felt terrible for her but I have seen her cheering for the horse even though she does not train it. Big diference is in both of these cases the people have handled themselves with dignity. If Shane Tritton came out and said I have sacked Guy Chapple because he is taking money out of my pocket I would say exactly the same thing. Infact quite the opposite. Hopefully Shane might be able to teach Lauren abit of humility as so obviously has zero. I have never questioned her or anyone elses loyalty just her juvenile comments and of course her constant use of the word definitley.

[Triple V]

Jaimie, you really are a funny guys. I am sure all the customers of the Mean Fiddler and its syndicate are over the moon with you with regards Owens Delight. How much did they stump up before you moved it on. 14 wins later you must be a good judge. With your level of comedic talent, you should seriously think about a job as a comedian as obviously your bloodstock business is a failure.

[VVV] Firstly 'Jack'...it's interesting to note that despite you professing to be a Trainer for whom Lauren has driven in the past, from what I'm able to determine it appears your name can be found NOWHERE in any State (and esp.so here NSW) or for that matter National Participants register of same, something which immediately indicates to me that your screen moniker is most likely a fake & in contravention of the rules applicable to this Forum.
Secondly, you are very drastically ill-informed re:Owens Delight.
He was never at any stage sold to that Syndicate. They did not stump up a single cent to get him. He was a 100% Free Lease which I organised for very specific reasons, reasons which I discussed at the time with another couple of regular posters to this forum both of whom have done similar things for similar/the same reasons.
The GM at the time wanted to buy the horse outright however even though we had had bred the colt & owned him I advised the GM against doing so. This I did on the basis that it was their first venture into Ownership and if the horse was no good then it could be a lot of money down the drain for no result. Better for them to Lease & see how things worked out. All they were ever up for was his monthly upkeep/training fees. The GM left there not long afterwards, new management had other directions in mind & were not so keen on the idea, the horse was returned to us and was subsequently moved on. He went to Tassie for a while & then to SA. He proved to only be a moderate conveyance but has notheless paced in 1:55 & a bit won quite a few races in SA, currently for Scott Ewen I think? Turns out that a bit of time was his friend in the end. He always had speed, he just needed to get stronger. There it is, lock, stock & barrel.
Nevertheless, please 'Jack'...don't let the facts of the matter get in the way of your story. From your anonymous position of course your balls are going to swell up no end & you'll be feeling completely safe to sling all the baselss, incorrect shit that you like, you being wrong on all counts notwithstanding.

[Pena]

You are very sensitive VVV.

All a barrel of laughs when you are personally attacking me, but cry like a little girl when someone has a go back.

Can you explain something to me? When did I say I was a trainer?

If a driver drives a horse for me as an owner does that mean that she has driven a horse for me?

If I own the horse or at least a small part of it, do I have the right to go to the races and talk to the trainer and driver?

As with most of your half baked comments you have made in regard my original posts you read into it what you want to. Be subjecive for a moment. Read the comments and pretend someone in the industry you do not like is saying them. Then let me know what you think.

You wanted to start with the pie, coke and cardigan rubbish so please don't moan like a stuffed pig when the question is asked about a real situation and not you smart assed stories. I bet you sat there and had a big giggle to yourself when you were making up your little story but I would rather deal with the facts.

[Triple V]

Ahuh. No point whatsoever in debating anything here with a guaranteed phantom...'Jack'.
When you grow the stones to sign in under your own name & level your critiques from there then come back and we'll talk.

[Pena]

VVV,

I was up late last night waiting for your TV show to come on TV but only Benny Hinn came on I hope you are not lying about your occupation on your profile as I think this is against forum rules.

I found a video that reminded me of the debate we have had on this issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-tgV_J2RaI

Just so you understand you are Zab, talking when you should have been listening.

Don't take it to hard, one day I will catch up with you at Menangle and buy you a pie and coke. It should be easy to spot and smell me I will be the one with the mothy bally brown cardigan.

Hope you enjoy your day.

[doinmabest]

In racing, often success is fleeting and whilst many attempt to make a living out of harness racing, many fall by the wayside as the big dollars aren't there to sustain a large group. When opportunity knocks for a 19 year old to make a decent living out of the sport then they should grab it with both hands. As I said, success and the good times come and go. Panella can make a dollar now while she is at the top of her game then good luck to her. What would be sad is if we lost her to the thoroughbred code. She harbours an interest to become a jockey and her equestrian background and natural light weight make her a prospect if she heads that way.
Ultimately her comments quoted in the article are open to interpretation. Jack sees them as arrogant and immature, many see them as forthright and confident. Either way loyalty is a two way street and I think that was the point she was trying to get across.
Cheers

[Pena]

Geez Fred, when you put it that way I see why Lauren does such a good job on Essbee Doubleyou, it sounds like she is harness racing SBW.

I am really not sure how anyone could possibly interpret that her comments are saying loyalty is a two way street. To start with I can not think of a horse that she has been sacked off, so surely she cannot be blowing up about that. As I have said, no one expects loyalty from anyone as this is racing. Its a business and people come and go, trainers, drivers and owners are in and out of favour thats just the way the industry rolls. But a little bit of grace, humility and dignity is all you need. These comments show zero.

[aussiebreno]

Geez Fred, when you put it that way I see why Lauren does such a good job on Essbee Doubleyou, it sounds like she is harness racing SBW.

I am really not sure how anyone could possibly interpret that her comments are saying loyalty is a two way street. To start with I can not think of a horse that she has been sacked off, so surely she cannot be blowing up about that. As I have said, no one expects loyalty from anyone as this is racing. Its a business and people come and go, trainers, drivers and owners are in and out of favour thats just the way the industry rolls. But a little bit of grace, humility and dignity is all you need. These comments show zero.Your 9 comments in this thread say more about you than what Panella's comment say about her.

P.S VVV I loved your work earlier :) Remeniscent of much of your work pre the real names policy with buster and the like. Haven't lost it old man :p

[Pena]

Brenno, great addition to the debate.

VVV, your comments are fantastic congratulations on the effort.

Might get a couple of my mates to pump up my own tyres. On reflection I am really not that pathetic.

[Triple V]

Brenno, great addition to the debate.

VVV, your comments are fantastic congratulations on the effort.

Might get a couple of my mates to pump up my own tyres. On reflection I am really not that pathetic.

[VVV] Oh dear...the pump up the tyres thing....it's our often referred to sayings that give us away Daryl. I thought you'd sold all of your horses & got out? Apparently not completely. Turns out I was spot on with the Cardigan thing. Imagine that eh?

[Triple V]

In racing, often success is fleeting and whilst many attempt to make a living out of harness racing, many fall by the wayside as the big dollars aren't there to sustain a large group. When opportunity knocks for a 19 year old to make a decent living out of the sport then they should grab it with both hands. As I said, success and the good times come and go. Panella can make a dollar now while she is at the top of her game then good luck to her. What would be sad is if we lost her to the thoroughbred code. She harbours an interest to become a jockey and her equestrian background and natural light weight make her a prospect if she heads that way.
Ultimately her comments quoted in the article are open to interpretation. Jack sees them as arrogant and immature, many see them as forthright and confident. Either way loyalty is a two way street and I think that was the point she was trying to get across.
Cheers

[VVV] Right on the money Fred. Well said.