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mightymo
01-31-2014, 02:02 PM
Last year Boldenone was the subject of much discussion.



Thought it was interesting to see the following in the NZ trainers association report:


"The HRNZ Board is currently grappling with two decisions concerning illegal substances. On the one hand, they are pressing for the banning of all steroids, on the other they are deciding on whether to raise the allowable level of TC02 in horses from the current 35 m/mol to 36m/mol, which is apparently the level accepted by every other racing jurisdiction in the World. While the Association strongly supports the fight against drug use, there is one steroid, Boldenone, which is still very much subject to conjecture (in fact has been clinically proven) to be found in horses through other means than administration. It seems incongruous that the Board is adamant on the steroid issue to bring us into line with the rest of the World, yet (despite recommendations from the RIU and others dating back to 2012) is stalling on following the standard policy on TC02."

Messenger
01-31-2014, 04:43 PM
So what are your thoughts on Boldenone?

mightymo
01-31-2014, 04:50 PM
Whilst I own and breed horses, Im not a horseman and I dont really know much about the use or benefits of it, so my view is based simply on the current rules of racing ie It's a banned substance and should not be used on racehorses

Danno
01-31-2014, 11:25 PM
Whilst I own and breed horses, Im not a horseman and I dont really know much about the use or benefits of it, so my view is based simply on the current rules of racing ie It's a banned substance and should not be used on racehorses

So it's a "banned substance, in Aus and NZ" that being the case Harvey, can we ask the reason why you have raised the subject again?

djgood
02-01-2014, 02:35 PM
I have read a vets test on steroids in the system I recall it was 60+ colts and 40 + fillies all not treated with any steroids these horses were tested regularly over 9 months and while other steroids were found in very small amounts boldenone they could find no trace and the conclusion was any boldenone found in a swab had to be artificially given to the horse and not natural occurring

aussiebreno
02-01-2014, 04:07 PM
I have read a vets test on steroids in the system I recall it was 60+ colts and 40 + fillies all not treated with any steroids these horses were tested regularly over 9 months and while other steroids were found in very small amounts boldenone they could find no trace and the conclusion was any boldenone found in a swab had to be artificially given to the horse and not natural occurring
Further to this...the fourth dot point.
http://www.thehorse.com/articles/25094/normal-steroid-levels-in-racehorses

So where's the study that shows it naturally occurring?

Messenger
02-01-2014, 04:13 PM
Last year Boldenone was the subject of much discussion.



Thought it was interesting to see the following in the NZ trainers association report:


"The HRNZ Board is currently grappling with two decisions concerning illegal substances. On the one hand, they are pressing for the banning of all steroids, on the other they are deciding on whether to raise the allowable level of TC02 in horses from the current 35 m/mol to 36m/mol, which is apparently the level accepted by every other racing jurisdiction in the World. While the Association strongly supports the fight against drug use, there is one steroid, Boldenone, which is still very much subject to conjecture (in fact has been clinically proven) to be found in horses through other means than administration. It seems incongruous that the Board is adamant on the steroid issue to bring us into line with the rest of the World, yet (despite recommendations from the RIU and others dating back to 2012) is stalling on following the standard policy on TC02."

Is there any reference to support the statement that it has been clinically proven to occur naturally Harvey?