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Amlin
10-04-2014, 09:48 PM
Over $400,000 will be spent on a redevelopment of the Warragul harness racing track which will make the circuit one of the best quality of its kind in Australia.
Nearly a decade after initial plans to replace the current track with a 1000-metre circuit, Harness Racing Victoria, Warragul Harness Racing Club and the Victorian Coalition Government will all contribute to a comprehensive $434,000 overhaul of the existing 835-metre track.
While the physical layout and size of the track will not alter, both the turns and straights on the track will have an increased camber applied, in line with current industry requirements relating to animal welfare and competitor safety.
The camber on the bends will rise from around 8 per cent to 12.5 per cent, while in the straights a current camber of around 2 per cent will increase to 4 per cent.
The track will also receive new surface gravel as part of the works, which should see Warragul's circuit retain its reputation as an excellent racing surface in wet weather.
While the finished product will look slightly different to the current track, the real changes will occur as far as safety and comfort for competing horses.
A good cushion of track surface material, increased cambers, and ensuring the straights connect smoothly with the bends, reduces the pressure on horses joints while competing.
Scientific research has proven that horses will run faster and produce better efforts when they are racing under reduced leg stress.
The camber works and better quality racing surface should also equate to faster race times, and WHRC officials are quietly confident that the current race time records on the track will be bettered when racing recommences on Monday, December 1.
Contractors will arrive on site on Monday, October 6 with the track expected to be under reconstruction for around six weeks, before barrier trials are held to test the facility on Saturday, November 22.
It has been a long road for the Warragul Harness Racing Club to reach the point when the announcement of the successful tender was made recently.
In 2005 plans were put in place by Harness Racing Victoria to rebuild the track at Warragul to a circumference of 1000 metres, which is the industry preferred size.
These plans created much discussion among fellow user groups at the Logan Park complex but, somewhere along the way, racing industry funding was allocated to other projects and Warragul's thoughts of a new track were lost in the system.
In 2011, faced with a reduced amount of race meetings each year at Warragul and in a difficult economic climate, the WHRC successfully approached Harness Racing Victoria with an alternate plan for a refurbishment of the existing circuit in an effort to get funding for major capital works at Warragul back on the agenda.
Although half-mile tracks such as Warragul's are now seen by some sections of the trotting industry as outdated, WHRC officials believe their track will become a point of difference in Victorian harness racing, and the anticipated quality of the circuit will be a great marketing tool.
Many smaller tracks in Victoria have gradually been rebuilt to a bigger size in the last decade. Of the smaller tracks remaining in Victoria, Warragul is the easiest project to renovate rather than enlarge, given its width and bend radius are already adequate.
Most of the other small tracks in Victoria are flatter and narrower, having been built decades ago when horses were slower and before the mobile barrier was introduced.
Warragul already boasts a radius on the bends bigger than more modern circuits at Geelong, Charlton and Cranbourne.
Respected racing commentator, and successful harness racing trainer John Tapp, recently led a tour group to the iconic American trotting event the Little Brown Jug, staged in front of 40,000 spectators on a well cambered half-mile track in Delaware, Ohio.
Tapp was impressed with the quality of the Delaware track, and said on Sky Channel's harness racing television program In The Gig:
"It's a perfect half mile track. The geometry is absolutely spot on. It's very wide, and the camber is ideal," Tapp said.
"I'm sure there's an argument for half mile tracks in many sections of the industry, particularly for the weaker horses."
"If they happen to draw (barrier) one, two, or three, they get their chance to win whereas on the bigger tracks like Menangle (1400 metres) there is nowhere to hide, and I'm afraid the ordinary horse has got little hope."
"We've still got some half mile tracks in New South Wales and, I tell you what, it will be a sad day if every one of them disappears."
The current Warragul track was built in 1988 and at the time was considered to be a state of the art venue. It was the first to be built with European-style cambered bends which have since been replicated and improved upon at other venues Australia wide.
The track now hosts nine race meetings per year, along with regular barrier trials, and is used daily by local participants for the training of their horses.
Warragul Harness Racing Club officials are confident they can recreate a little bit of Delaware down under with their track refurbishment as a new era is set to begin for the sport of trotting in Gippsland.

Messenger
10-05-2014, 01:04 AM
The radius of the bends would seem adequate Kyle but I note that the new ones have a radius of 100m+
Warragul's radius is 86m but noted my old home Yarra Valley now has 102m while my new home Stawell must be the worst with 66m
I think all my Warragul visits were pre 88 so I will have missed a whole era at Warragul - poor form I know

Amlin
10-09-2014, 09:37 PM
Track rebuild works commenced at Warragul last Monday with the venue out of action until late November.

Amlin
10-17-2014, 11:55 PM
Some more pics showing works taking place at Warragul this week. A fair amount of fill coming in by the truckload to boost the camber. And Kev you will be happy to know the winning post is staying where it is, back up from the start of the bend!

Messenger
10-18-2014, 12:34 AM
Kyle, there is a rumour going around that you are living in one of those Steward towers so as not to miss a thing :D

Amlin
10-18-2014, 12:38 AM
Not quite, but when you work on the hill behind the course it is easy to "pop in" on the way there and home. Call me the Foreman maybe!

Messenger
10-30-2014, 11:58 PM
Good stuff Kyle

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=24791

Amlin
11-01-2014, 11:46 PM
As of 31/10

Messenger
11-02-2014, 12:59 AM
Wow that looks wider than Eastlink (both directions)

Amlin
11-02-2014, 05:16 PM
22m wide from rail to fence Kev. With pegs in 17m wide. Was built this way to run 10 off the front line which they briefly did before the HRB dumped the idea.

Amlin
11-14-2014, 10:51 PM
Further photos of the Warragul track. Finishing touches applied next week before trials next Saturday 22nd.


It has been discovered that the circumference of the track is actually two metres larger than had been thought. So race distances have been increased slightly.

Messenger
11-23-2014, 12:46 AM
Will it be all systems go for December 1 Kyle (next Monday)
How did the trials go?

Amlin
11-23-2014, 03:37 PM
Very well Kev horses seem at home either leading, on sprint lane or making ground out wide. Only 15 horses trialled and trials are hand timedbut a couple if 28 quarters. Real test will be on raceday Mon.

Yesterday was the first time a horse had touched the track so it will take time to settle.

Will upload replays tonight.

Amlin
11-23-2014, 10:20 PM
Trial replays being uploaded now on our page which is www.youtube.com/warragulharness (http://www.youtube.com/warragulharness) - they should be up later tonight.


Excuse the sometimes wonky camera work, not always easy to call it and film it at the same time!\




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Amlin
11-26-2014, 12:29 AM
A host of new sponsors have joined the Warragul Harness Racing Club ahead of their racetrack reopening this Monday afternoon.
They include Winning Formula, an animal nutrition company who are generously supplying product to competitors at Monday's meeting.
All race winners will receive a sample pack which contains several products from the Winning Formula range.
Second and third placed trainers in all events will also go home with a product sample to trial.
Representatives of the Winning Formula company will be on course on Monday to talk with trainers about their product range and to answer any animal health queries.
Winning Formula are also on board as sponsors of the Warragul Trainer of the Year award.
All Equip, the Kilmore based firm behind the reconstruction of the Warragul Pacing Bowl, are backing the Driver of the Year award, while Melton Saddlery has reconfirmed their sponsorship of the Concession Driver of the Year award.
Gippsland based firm Able Onsite Services, which works closely with the power industry in the Latrobe Valley, are another new sponsor to link up with the Warragul Harness Racing Club.
They have accepted sponsorship of the Horse of the Year award. Company representative Pete Ransom is a passionate supporter of harness racing, breeding and racing horses with the Hunter stable at Trafalgar.
Last season's award winners will be recognised for their achievements at Monday's card, when a new season of racing commences at Warragul.
Connections of the winner of the first race on the new track will go home with a commemorative trophy recognising their achievement.

Messenger
11-26-2014, 12:40 AM
You forgot to tell us who cuts your hair ;)

Amlin
11-26-2014, 11:23 AM
Fair go! This is one of the few outlets where our news gets a run these days! :)

Messenger
11-26-2014, 09:15 PM
Fair go! This is one of the few outlets where our news gets a run these days! :)

Lies, lies and more lies. I found this contribution from some mug in HRA's News Room

Warragul Pacing Bowl Passes First Test

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=25026

Amlin
11-26-2014, 10:42 PM
But you didn't find the one about the sponsors there I see!

thepacingman
11-27-2014, 04:10 PM
OK, it's good about the track upgrade but what has not changed is the long-standing issue at Warragul. Lack of numbers.

Five of the eight races next Monday have only seven runners. The trot races there always seem to have full fields though.

It would be interesting to hear from Kyle as to what he thinks the reasons are for this and what has/is being done to try and attract more starters to get full fields. You all know the lines (more competitive racing, increased turnover, etc).

Messenger
11-27-2014, 04:42 PM
Hi Stephen, I will say one thing that Kyle may be reluctant to say - HRV are focused on the West/Central part of the state and being in the East, Warragul could consider a name change to 'Siberia'

Toohard
11-27-2014, 10:58 PM
OK, it's good about the track upgrade but what has not changed is the long-standing issue at Warragul. Lack of numbers.

Five of the eight races next Monday have only seven runners. The trot races there always seem to have full fields though.

It would be interesting to hear from Kyle as to what he thinks the reasons are for this and what has/is being done to try and attract more starters to get full fields. You all know the lines (more competitive racing, increased turnover, etc).

Warragul is a great track to watch harness racing. It's out to the east of Melbourne. It's grown heaps out that way in the last 10+ years. Suburbs where farms used to be. Only access really is down the freeway. It's a car park at the best of times. With most of the harness trainers concentrated to the west and north of Melbourne it makes it a long and slow drive home. Hit town in peak hour, etc.

Some lights and some night meetings Kyle?

Amlin
11-27-2014, 11:32 PM
Monday's meeting happens to fall on a building industry RDO which our meetings sometimes do so that may help the traffic situation but the trotting people aren't to know that when nominating I wouldn't think.


Stephen it is a continual source of frustration for our club. We can hope that the new track surface etc will generate some positive publicity and those who attend Monday will "spread the word"


I am reluctant to criticise those who co-ordinate our industry but I will make two points which I maintain are valid - one being the restricted meeting at Kilmore the night before. While it is debatable whether all of those horses would have instead gone to Warragul if no other option, you only need another 15 odd horses from that pool and you have capacity fields. I still can't work out why people line up to race a full field for $3000 but will not travel to run against six others for $6000 but this is not a new issue.


Secondly, most of the seven races programmed attracted around 14 noms, however two races didn't get the required six acceptances and therefore the rest of the races needed to be split to make up a program, hence 14 horse groups being halved into two events. It is hard to get eight races out of a seven race card at the best of times, let alone when noms are small.


To their credit HRV has in past years programmed Warragul's meetings in spots where there should be no excuse for people to avoid them - such as day after Breeder's Crown (non BC horses have to race somewhere), day after Redwood (pacers have to go somewhere), Easter Sunday (no racing Good Friday) etc.


It is better to have eight races than none at all but gee it is frustrating from a marketing and turnover perspective, and it does not show our club in a good light. The training centre establishment at Cranbourne has boosted horse numbers in the region a little (but mostly just seen trainers relocate to it from Croydon, Yarra Glen etc). If that facility runs at full capacity longer term then that will help. The number of meetings held by Warragul during 1996/1997 was 19 after the Traralgon club closed and its meetings relocated to Warragul - now it is 9. You can only imagine the damage that has done to the participants levels locally.


If the traffic is an issue, then as Kev said ideas such as night racing (unrealistic) or weekend events should be considered. If you are running a business and your customers stop coming in - you can do either one of two things: leave it as it is and hope it improves or get in and try to make changes to assist. The club looks forward to working with HRV to see what they will be doing to help us going forward now both bodies have made such a big captial investment.


In the meantime we would be happy to hear from people who have any thoughts/ideas on how to try and overcome this issue!

Amlin
11-30-2014, 09:35 PM
Wednesday's program at Stawell has attracted 7 races and 60 horses. Turnover figures will be interesting on both the Monday and Wednesday cards considering field sizes.


Monday has no trots in NSW or QLD, and only two gallops meets (no second NSW or NZ meets), plus it is construction union picnic day so that might mean more punters in pubs etc, so in theory the holds off course on Warragul should increase. Of course field sizes have let us down, but I sincerely don't know what else the club can do when you have little control over what days you race and what program you run.

Messenger
12-01-2014, 10:07 PM
It looked good on Sky Kyle. Jayne Davies would have been very pleased to have broken through for her first win for the season in the last. 3mths and around 50 starters must have seemed like an eternity for her

Amlin
12-02-2014, 12:26 AM
Yes raced well Kev. First winner went 1:58.9 and its fastest ever mile rate is 1:57.9 around Menangle which is nearly twice the size of Warragul.


They went 1:58 in the second, and I think Chris Alford showed the track at its best in the last sweeping home down the centre of the track and defying the trend where nearly all other winners were left alone in front to do as they pleased courtesy of the small fields perhaps.


Chris proved if you time your run well enough you can still get 'em home on the small track.


Drivers were pleased with the quality of the surface and banking from all reports.

Richard prior
12-02-2014, 12:36 AM
Really looked terrific on Tele Kyle and the banking is fantastic.

barney
12-02-2014, 11:20 AM
Is it back to the Warragul i remember Ted Demmler used to dominate and was a leaders track.See yesterday most winners led all the way is this going to be the norm or just to track settles

Amlin
12-02-2014, 11:04 PM
Maybe Barney or they might be still working out how to drive the track. The small fields don't make for much of a contest sometimes. Chris Alford defied the trend with a good drive in the last coming from mid field and finishing strongly out wide. That's what we hope to achieve with the track.


Here are a couple of comparison pics - first the old circuit and second the new.

Messenger
12-02-2014, 11:32 PM
Using the kids slide as a point of reference, I thought the banking may have been more pronounced than that Kyle
]Found this good article about yesterday's meet
http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Former-footballer-lands-first-winner-on-new-Warragul-track
:D

Amlin
12-02-2014, 11:56 PM
It is quite a deal higher when you try to climb the bank to stand "on the fence" near the finish line, you have to hold on to the fence and hoist yourself up.
The camber rises to the highest point about half way across the track, then tapers across flat to the fence. Perhaps to describe it in layman's terms - compare in the second pic how much grass you can see near the playground, and the bottom of the slide itself.

Mister JayKO
12-03-2014, 01:46 PM
Hi Stephen, I will say one thing that Kyle may be reluctant to say - HRV are focused on the West/Central part of the state and being in the East, Warragul could consider a name change to 'Siberia'



HRV are focused on Melton - for it is the centre of their Universe. All major players are situated within an hour of here (Ballarat, Geelong, Cranbourne, Bendigo). Live outside those confines and you are effectively in Siberia. Look at the Meadowlands / Yonkers, because that's where we are heading fast.

Amlin
12-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Next on the agenda are works to the tracks at Horsham and Echuca

Messenger
12-03-2014, 07:19 PM
HRV are focused on Melton - for it is the centre of their Universe. All major players are situated within an hour of here (Ballarat, Geelong, Cranbourne, Bendigo). Live outside those confines and you are effectively in Siberia. Look at the Meadowlands / Yonkers, because that's where we are heading fast.

As my previous post suggests I pretty much agree with you Stu althought I think Geelong and Cranbourne have also suffered their share of neglect

Messenger
12-03-2014, 07:20 PM
Next on the agenda are works to the tracks at Horsham and Echuca

Do you know what they are doing Kyle?
Sprint lane for Horsham?

Njcstables
12-04-2014, 12:48 AM
Do you know what they are doing Kyle?
Sprint lane for Horsham?

I was told at Horsham two weeks ago that a sprint lane would be going in at Horsham. Another one bites the dust!

Messenger
12-04-2014, 12:57 AM
I missed you there too Nathan - I left before the last and later noticed you were in it

Njcstables
12-04-2014, 01:08 AM
I missed you there too Nathan - I left before the last and later noticed you were in it

You need to do your form better Kev!

Messenger
02-09-2015, 08:59 PM
The times seemed a bit slow today Kyle.

Amlin
02-10-2015, 11:18 PM
Have been off air Kev. Was blowing a gale yesterday. Still good racing though.

Messenger
02-11-2015, 12:34 AM
Time is not everything - they seemed to be winning from a great variety of posns