Any news on Lombo Pocket Watch lately

[David Summers]

Searched online and can find nothing recently about Lombo Pocket Watch since his injury some time back in his comeback race in WA.

Would anyone have any up-to-date news about this great horse?

Such a shame that he was so poorly received when sent to stud. Hope that he proves everyone wrong in the future.

I remember when Courage Under Fire ( my all-time favourite ) first went to stud , statements like "Too small to be a top sire" and "overpriced stud fee" were mentioned. Well he has certainly had the last laugh http://www.harnessracingforum.com/images/icons/icon6.png

Let's hope Lombo Pocket Watch will do the same.

[mango]

Lombo Pocket Watch was a great horse but i doubt he will ever match the feats of CUF.

[David Summers]

Yes, Courage Under Fire is a legendary horse on the track and now at stud. I really hope Lombo Pocket Watch is given a chance at stud. I know I will certainly be supporting him at every opportunity I can.

[triplev123]

Lombo Pocket Watch was a great horse but i doubt he will ever match the feats of CUF.

CUF actually had a somewhat lacklustre start to his breeding barn career. Since then he has had to do it the hard way, he has fought back from the edge of the abyss in many respects. I had most certainly written him off but with Lanercost, Bells And Whistles, Pembrook Benny, Lancome, Artic Fire, Rowan Direct, Courageous Annie and so on he has proven me wrong. A mate of mine reckons two of the biggest things the CUF's have in their favour is their conformation and their gait. He reckons they're invariably well made horses and that whatever their size, they tend to have a length of stride that's in excess of what you'd reasonably/normally expect.

[mango]

Hey Triple

You could also add Sleepy Trip, Courage To Rule, Franco Jamar and Coastal to that list. I was not knocking LPW in anyway i was just been honest that he will never match the feats of CUF. You need numbers on the ground to make a stallion as we all know, i've got the servive summary of CUF and LPW first 3 years at stud.

LOMBO POCKET WATCH

08/09 81 Live foals.
09/10 Didn't stand.
10/11 Served 33 mare's

COURAGE UNDER FIRE

02/03 Live foals Aus/Nz 183
03/04 Live Foals Aus/Nz 146
04/05 Live foals Aus/Nz 201

After comparing service summaries between these 2 great horses you can see why LPW will never match CUF in the breeding shed.

[mango]

I just thought i'd also compare the last 3 yrs at stud.

COURAGE UNDER FIRE
08/09 Aus/Nz 112 Live foal's
09/10 Aus/Nz 182 Live foal's
10/11 Aus/Nz Served 209 mare's


LOMBO POCKET WATCH

08/09 81 Live foal's
09/10 Didn't serve
10/11 Served 33 mare's.

[triplev123]

I agree and I wasn't taking issue with that Mango, rather just noting that CUF as he is thought of now, is not CUF as he was thought of post his 1st & 2nd crops. Maybe too much was expected of him, dunno, but virtually no sooner had many, including myself, written him off than he really began to take off.

[mango]

Hey Triple

I also had reservations about him mainly due to his size as a stallion, but i've been happily proven wrong.

[Flashing Red]

I agree and I wasn't taking issue with that Mango, rather just noting that CUF as he is thought of now, is not CUF as he was thought of post his 1st & 2nd crops. Maybe too much was expected of him, dunno, but virtually no sooner had many, including myself, written him off than he really began to take off.

I had written him off too - his first few crops certainly didn't set the harness scene on fire, but now they hold their own. Its not oftern you see a come back in the stallion ranks like that...

[triplev123]

Interestingly, John Coffey has always had faith in the horse and now, after a couple of stop-overs, CUF is finally on the Alabar Roster.

[mango]

I just hope his service fee drops a little or is included in Alabar's discount scheme.

[Village Kid]

Searched online and can find nothing recently about Lombo Pocket Watch since his injury some time back in his comeback race in WA.

Would anyone have any up-to-date news about this great horse?

Such a shame that he was so poorly received when sent to stud. Hope that he proves everyone wrong in the future.

I remember when Courage Under Fire ( my all-time favourite ) first went to stud , statements like "Too small to be a top sire" and "overpriced stud fee" were mentioned. Well he has certainly had the last laugh http://www.harnessracingforum.com/images/icons/icon6.png

Let's hope Lombo Pocket Watch will do the same.

Hi Ozninja

Think I saw on ITG last week that the horse was having stem cell treatment on an injury sustained after his comeback race, will then go to stud short term and be bought back into training with the 2012 ID at Gloucester Park the main target.

I dragged my wife across from Adelaide to Harold Park in Auugst 2008 for the Chariots of Fire on the premise it was his last ever start and I'd never seen him live. Whoops...

[David Summers]

Thanks Village Kid, I saw that report on ITG too. Hope the treatment is a success although has been unsuccessful many times elsewhere.

I know he had previously been poorly supported at stud and that is why they brought him back to race. However , I just don't see any advantage in racing him again now , although I would love to see him back , but not to watch him go around and struggle in moderate fields.

With all he has done previously in his brilliant career , and yet to be poorly patronized at stud , I don't think it would matter if he came back and won the Perth Interdominion , that it would make much difference in the minds of mare owners when they are looking for a topline sire prospect. That's very sad.

[triplev123]

It's not to hard to read the tea leaves as far as LPW's difficulty capturing the imagination of the Breeders. It has nothing to do with his size....in fact on that score he is not what I'd say was small ala CUF....and it has very, very little if anything at all to do with him not carrying his outstanding juvenile form onwards to 4yo+ glory. I think it all comes down to him being a son of Jet Laag and how that is perceived by the Breeders.
Jet Laag was a wicked fast, great gaited horse...and he has done a good job here despite never really getting many/any of the better mares around. If he is a sire of sires however is another matter. By and large, most breeders appear to think he is not. We'll know for sure soon enough if they were right or wrong.