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allanjg
12-14-2015, 03:17 PM
i thought i would start this thread after i had a conversation with my brother the other day...he has a 5yo unraced mare in work that is almost ready to go to the big track for a step up in her work,on asking him how was she going and what he thought of her,his answer was that she`s as tough as any horse he`s ever trained but only time will tell if she will have any speed.he stated that being a mare his was concerned with her size 14.1-14.2...i answered that so long as she`s got a heart it should`nt matter,which brings me to my thread,can you guys and gals out there add to a list of good little races mares that you know or can remember racing.i will start the list off with 1960`s robin dundee 14.2 hands.
Smoken
12-14-2015, 03:24 PM
This should help you and your bro Allan
http://www.harnessracingforum.com/archive/index.php/t-4283.html
aussiebreno
12-14-2015, 04:16 PM
Nidya
Richard prior
12-14-2015, 04:26 PM
Elect to Live
Adaptor
12-14-2015, 05:01 PM
Union Ally
http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/reports/performance.cfm?horse_id=603711
is tiny....would be standing on tiptoes to reach 14.1
Richard prior
12-14-2015, 05:35 PM
Union Ally
http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/reports/performance.cfm?horse_id=603711
is tiny....would be standing on tiptoes to reach 14.1
Gee she's got a bit of zip Noel, Watched her win at Terang on 17/11/15
Richard prior
12-14-2015, 05:36 PM
Gumdrops
Richard prior
12-14-2015, 05:38 PM
Nidya
Tough as old boots Breno, They reckon she enjoyed racing twice a week.
mightymo
12-14-2015, 05:52 PM
Baby Bling
eliteblood
12-14-2015, 06:45 PM
Going back 35 years, a tiny mare named Ranji Bill was a prolific winner at Harold Park. She was a real crowd favourite and was driven in a lot of her races by Kim Moore when lady drivers were just breaking into the game. Kim later became a successful galloping trainer and married Australian cricketer Mark Waugh.
I'm not sure what height she was, but she was about as small as you will see.
(That is Ranji Bill I'm referring to, although Kim was also very petite)
Beltane
12-14-2015, 07:06 PM
That is so correct about Ranji Bill, who was a terrific little mare, as tough as they come, gave away big starts in handicaps, and was not much bigger than a pit pony.
Greg Hando
12-14-2015, 09:22 PM
Going back 35 years, a tiny mare named Ranji Bill was a prolific winner at Harold Park. She was a real crowd favourite and was driven in a lot of her races by Kim Moore when lady drivers were just breaking into the game. Kim later became a successful galloping trainer and married Australian cricketer Mark Waugh.
I'm not sure what height she was, but she was about as small as you will see.
(That is Ranji Bill I'm referring to, although Kim was also very petite)
Ranji was just 14 hands Trevor the smallest mare to win at Harold Park i believe was Dorals Princess she was 13.2hh i know from stabling near her one night with Ariel Frost who also was 13.2hh
Richard prior
12-14-2015, 11:07 PM
Jesus I'm getting old, I remember Dorals Princess and Ranji Bill clearly and Ariel Frost vaguely.
Big Max
12-15-2015, 08:33 AM
For memory lombo la fe fe was on the smaller side
Mighty Atom
12-15-2015, 12:45 PM
Miss Dundee, an outstanding pacing mare in WA back in 60/70's a little over 14 hands, Remit was another in the late 70's.
eliteblood
12-15-2015, 02:23 PM
Miss Dundee, an outstanding pacing mare in WA back in 60/70's a little over 14 hands, Remit was another in the late 70's.
And what a great legacy Remit left behind, these horses all being descendants :-
Ace Of Whitby 1988 (M U305 ) by Booth Hanover - 1:58.8 $317,247
Chooks Reward 2003 (M U305 ) by Island Fantasy - 1:57.1 $135,870
Whitbys Miss Penny 1987 (F U305 ) by Booth Hanover - 1:55.2TT $568,289 [3]
Whitbys Beach 2004 (M U305) by Jennas Beach Boy - 1:56.5 $102,373
Ima Spicey Lombo 2005 (F U305 ) by Pacific Fella - 1:55.1 $483,686
Delightful Jade 2011 (F U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:55.3 $133,107
Whitby Heritage 1984 (F U305 ) by Maple Lanes Strike - 1:58.8 $201,758 [1]
Blissful Snag 2003 (M U305 ) by DM Dilinger - 1:58.9 $132,815
Whitby Timer 1985 (M U305 ) by Spring Run - 1:56.9 $314,899
Whitbys Merit 1990 (F U305 ) by French Chef - 2:00.3 $168,598 [5]
Aikido Whitby 2003 (G U305 ) by Life Sign - 1:59.8 $248,278
La Roya Whitby 2002 (F U305) by Kinney Hanover - 1:59.8 $106,649
Mon Poppy Mia 2002 (F U305 ) by Kinney Hanover - 1:57.8 $114,220
Montana Anna 1998 (F U305 ) by Mystical Prince - 1:59.0 $230,863
Zerina Whitby 2000 (F U305 ) by Kinney Hanover - 1:55.6 $107,827
Remit was a daughter of Gold Heritage who is also responsible for the hottest family in NZ in recent years, her NZ branch descendants including :-
Scuse Me 1993 (F U305 ) by BGs Bunny - 1:53.5 $126,841 [7]
Adore Me 2009 (F U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:47.7 $1,667,029
Have Faith In Me 2011 (G U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:52.5 $571,604
Imagine Me 2005 (F U305 ) by Dream Away - 1:56.9 $241,972
The Dip 2008 (M U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:54.0 $107,436
Megabucks 1999 (G U305 ) by Life Sign - 1:49.3US $98,406
Christen Me 2008 (G U305) by Christian Cullen - 1:49.1 $2,169,765
Dream About Me 2012 (F U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:54.9 $403,872
Hands Christian 2007 (G U305) by Christian Cullen - 1:52.5 $321,556
Maxim 2010 (G U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:55.9 $383,094
Splendour 2009 (F U305) by Bettors Delight - 1:56.2 $142,217
barney
12-15-2015, 03:29 PM
Wasn't a mare but still remember a horse called Macaree small and a champion.
Mighty Atom
12-15-2015, 08:12 PM
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Great research Trevor.
eliteblood
12-15-2015, 10:29 PM
My interest in the family came about initially at the 1990 Inter Dominion in Adelaide. We had a horse in the series named Weona Chief who won a heat and ran third in the final.
Whitby Timer and Whitby Heritage both performed well through the series, trained and driven by Rod Chambers.
I also bought Ima Spicey Lombo a couple of years ago and have a RNR Heaven colt from her to be sold in next year's Sydney APG sale.
Adaptor
12-15-2015, 10:41 PM
Its a long time ago but the champion racehorse and sire Good Time
A bay son of Hal Dale and the Volomite mare, On Time, stood barely fourteen hands high.
He must have left a tribe of small mares.
Richard prior
12-15-2015, 11:03 PM
Its a long time ago but the champion racehorse and sire Good Time
A bay son of Hal Dale and the Volomite mare, On Time, stood barely fourteen hands high.
He must have left a tribe of small mares.
Pretty sure that Most Happy Fella and Warm Breeze come from Good Time daughters Noel.
Messenger
12-16-2015, 12:58 PM
Most Happy Fella and Warm Breeze are certainly there amongst the Classic Crosses for Good Time Rich
There sires (Meadow Skipper and Bret Hanover) produced plenty of Classic Crosses with Good Time mares
http://www.classicfamilies.net/CF/ClassicCrosses.aspx?HorseID=10007563&SE=Sire&AD=ASC
Fan of Jate
12-16-2015, 01:40 PM
Elite angel ( safely Kept) who ran 2nd to the great quinny at GP a couple of years ago was a small mare about 14.2 but tough and courageous. Trainer used to say if he had a gelding that tough, it would have got to M4 at least no problems
Adaptor
12-16-2015, 09:42 PM
The Pocket Rocket Union Ally wins from the death at Kilmore tonight.
She's tiny!
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=KI161215&ms=vic#KIC16121504
Danno
12-20-2015, 12:36 AM
Dunno how anyone hasn't mentioned Teeny Reena, wonderful race mare that left a legacy in the breeding "barn" as big as ANY you would like to mention. In my humble opinion the only place size matters in racehorses is in the yearling sale ring, and we all know how the price that is paid there rarely has anything to do with ability.
eliteblood
12-20-2015, 10:04 AM
Dunno how anyone hasn't mentioned Teeny Reena, wonderful race mare that left a legacy in the breeding "barn" as big as ANY you would like to mention. In my humble opinion the only place size matters in racehorses is in the yearling sale ring, and we all know how the price that is paid there rarely has anything to do with ability.
Hi Dan,
Contrary to her name, Teeny Rena was not actually a small mare. I think she would have been a minimum of 15.2 hands, probably taller.
Danno
12-21-2015, 05:47 PM
Thanks Trevor,
the name must have mislead a few people, I'm certain I've read in more than one publication she was a diminutive mare!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCXJHHAKUbI
dug that up on utube and it sure enough shows she was an average sized type..
Cheers!
eliteblood
12-21-2015, 06:19 PM
Great to see those old horses and drivers in action.
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