2016 Breeders Crown

[Messenger]

Time to get this thread going instead of having the heats etc scattered all over the place

3 good heats for the 3yo C&G at Ballarat starting with R5 at 8pm
Even with a couple of Odds On favs there are nevertheless at least 2 genuine chances in each heat

https://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=BA120816&fromstate=vic

2yo Pacing Major in R2 (in 15min) is the entre
While R8 is a nice desert

[Messenger]

If you missed them, watch the 3 heats Races 5-7. It was great racing - so keenly contested (and no sprint lane required)

In the 5th, Soho Tribeca's 2nd was as good as any run
In the 6th , you have to respect the winner's effort 3w
In the 7th, the winner was most impressive when you consider he was involved early (It's not often that you see Gavin unable to control one)

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=BA120816&ms=vic

[Messenger]

The draws for the finals were done after the semi's last night but I can't find them anywhere

[Messenger]

Up now

https://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=MX280816&fromstate=vic

Waikiki 2 or 1 if Em. scr = all over red rover
Heavens Trend 1 with Rocknroll Magic 8 on her back = Stewart stable Quinella
Tingira Beach 2 or 1 if Em. scr

[arlington]

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=30731

Does this mean a scratching in race 6?

[Messenger]

Congratulations to Greg Fusinato, breeder of Our Waikiki Beach.
A super horse whose 1.54 was less than a second over the Tk Rec for all ages.
Fruitlessly looking for a kink in his armour they (Franco Cristiano) poured on the pressure possibly trying to replicate his only one an only defeat but that was in a race against older horses and when he was not fully wound up
Today he was hunted out, ran the first Q in under 28 but still ran the last in 28 with two sub 29's in the middle!


http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=MX280816&ms=vic#MXM28081603

[Messenger]

12 in a row for Rocknroll Magic now - 12/12 this campaign and 22/28 overall.


Mum never did anything but look who the 3rd dam is: Larrakeyah Lady - say no more


In hindsight it is hard to see how Heavens Trend should have started $1.50
Glad to see the Stewart stable get up - a treble to the NZ raiders would have been too much to bear


http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-results.cfm?mc=MX280816&ms=vic#MXM28081604

[Messenger]

It will be interesting to see what the stewards make of Lauren Tritton's drive in R6

[Messenger]

5 of the 6 pacing races on Crown day were run in 1.54.5 or better - not bad for 2, 3 & 4yo's over 2240m especially when the open age Tk Rec is 1.53.2 (the 6th was a very respectable 1.55.2 for 2yo's)

Purdon and Stewart won ALL 6 pacing finals with Stewart getting a quaddie and Purdon a double (a treble on the day thanks to a trotting winner)

The driving treble by Alford was incredible when you consider that Lang drove most of the Stewart stable favourites

[Danno]

It will be interesting to see what the stewards make of Lauren Tritton's drive in R6




It was all the horse's fault Kev...

[arlington]

It will be interesting to see what the stewards make of Lauren Tritton's drive in R6

Stewards report

Matthew Craven, driver of Big Gun Johnny, was found guilty of a charge issued under Rule 165(1)(b) which states: from the start through the first turn until reaching the next straight a driver shall not move the driver’s horse towards the inside running line unless the rear of the driver’s sulky is at least 1 metre clear of the extended from legs of the horse racing in the next position closer to the inside running line. The particulars of the charge being that racing to and passing the winning post shortly after the start, Mr Craven permitted Big Gun Johnny to shift inwards in an attempt to obtain the lead, when not sufficiently clear of Tingira Beach, resulting in that colt being tightened for racing room and being positioned inside the line of marker pegs, before galloping some distance thereafter. In assessing penalty stewards took into account Mr Craven’s clear recent record in relation to similar matters, that the incident occurred racing into the first turn which generally carries a greater penalty, the relevant rule and charge issued in this instance and the consequential effects of this incident. Mr Craven’s licence to drive in races was suspended for a period of 3 weeks to commence midnight 30 August 2016 and he was also fined $500...
Near the 1300m Scooterwillrev, which was racing in the position three back on the marker peg line, was inconvenienced as the pace eased slightly and after that gelding hung out, Tingira Beach which was over-racing, made contact with the near side sulky wheel of Scooterwillrev causing Tingira Beach to gallop, which in turn resulted in San Domino, which was following, being checked with that colt racing inside the line of marker pegs and pacing roughly and in turn Wardan Express being checked. In view of the pace easing and the racing manners of Scooterwillrev and Tingira Beach which contributed to this incident, no further action was deemed necessary.

In the last six weeks there's been significant interference to highly favoured runners by professional A Grade drivers resulting in suspensions in two Group One's, a Group Two and a Metropolitan Final. Not to forget the mental and physical injuries sustained to valuable young horses....and to think there is a need to impose further restrictions on B Grade drivers competing in country front races at Melton to prevent tarnishing of the brand? http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=30766

I would be more concerned at the impact of placing further restrictions on participation when participation numbers are dwindling, remembering that a great number of B Grade drivers are breeders and owners.

[Messenger]

I reckon I see a horse take the lead in the way BGJ did at every meeting I watch because I marvel at how close they cut it - I sometimes think the 'crossed' driver contributes by knowing when they are beat (it's a bit like the old Holden Precision Driving Team)

[arlington]

I reckon I see a horse take the lead in the way BGJ did at every meeting I watch because I marvel at how close they cut it - I sometimes think the 'crossed' driver contributes by knowing when they are beat (it's a bit like the old Holden Precision Driving Team)


I wouldn't debate your observations Kev but you will notice most drivers take a cursory glance down toward the other horses legs before they actually cross when it's that close and competitive. Perhaps on occasion a driver might be, say, 800mm clear but if you have at least taken a look and don't interfere and/or the other driver hasn't had to take evasive action the stewards mightn't get the tape measure out.


I take your point where a driver that doesn't hand up could be seen to contribute but, especially in this case, a major Gp1, the favourite and driver with a history of leading with the advantage going into the turn and unlikely be able to do the swapsies in getting the lead back from the 100/1 shot, they're entitled to hold their ground rather than potentially end up 3 pegs or worse at Melton...behind the 100/1 shot. And I think with juvenile racing rules that give young horses room are important.

[Jimbob]

It wasn't as bad as what Lauren did in an Inter Dominion final a few years ago. but was pretty bad from a punters point of view. 3 weeks is a soft penalty for taking out the raging hot favorite in a group one event IMO.

[Messenger]

It wasn't as bad as what Lauren did in an Inter Dominion final a few years ago. but was pretty bad from a punters point of view. 3 weeks is a soft penalty for taking out the raging hot favorite in a group one event IMO.
It would only be 3wks because he did not take out the favourite
I would love to see synchronized vision of the head on and side on views. I think there is a chance that he does not appear to be past her because she has poked up inside him by going inside the markers. When a horse is in the lead it is often half a cart away from the pegs not scraping them and I think Lauren may have seen this as a chance to keep the lead albeit by going inside the markers. No doubt Craven is not a metre clear but if they start enforcing that interpretation (not saying they shouldn't) then there will be a lot of suspensions if drivers do not adjust.
I guess her record has me fearing she gets 'white line fever' in the big races
Im Victorious connections could be excused for sensing karma