Arsenic

[Messenger]

Arsenic is obviously back on the radar

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Notice-to-Trainers-Arsenic

[Adaptor]

Its a really clear notice isn't it?
Keep your racehorse away from treated pine !!!

As for the other products listed, generations of horse trainers must have been wrong in thinking that they improved coat and blood.

[Messenger]

Arsenic is obviously back on the radar

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Notice-to-Trainers-Arsenic

A little bird has told me that a big story could be looming on this one

The Australian has an article today WRONG
This is an OLD article from The Australian

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/turf-thoroughbreds/arsenic-drug-for-sale-on-internet/story-fnajufri-1226175635076

[Adaptor]

A little bird has told me that a big story could be looming on this one

The Australian has an article today

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/turf-thoroughbreds/arsenic-drug-for-sale-on-internet/story-fnajufri-1226175635076

Looks like you can get it easily:
https://racehorsemeds.com/product/new-product-itpp-injection-10ml/

[Gtrain]

That article was 2011 and anyone who purchases or puts into a horse anything they get off that site needs their heads read.

[Messenger]

That article was 2011 and anyone who purchases or puts into a horse anything they get off that site needs their heads read.

Thanks for being far more observant than me Grant!
I was sent the link today and did not spot the 2011 :eek:

The rumour is that the Arsenic Notice to Trainers was issued for a reason and not just a random rule reminder

[Messenger]

Thanks for being far more observant than me Grant!
I was sent the link today and did not spot the 2011 :eek:

The rumour is that the Arsenic Notice to Trainers was issued for a reason and not just a random rule reminder

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31377

It is alleged that the horse Berisari was presented to race at Melton on 26 June 2015 by Ms Stewart when not free of arsenic, a prohibited substance when evidenced by a concentration above the allowable threshold.

[Messenger]

and another

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31378

Both from 2015

Arsenic is nothing new so why are these 2015's surfacing now - did they find them under someone's desk?!

[aussiebreno]

and another

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31378

Both from 2015

Arsenic is nothing new so why are these 2015's surfacing now - did they find them under someone's desk?!
Could it be HRV or their testing place hang onto swab samples because you can only test for so much and then heard whispers of arsenic being used so have went back and target tested.

[Messenger]

Could it be HRV or their testing place hang onto swab samples because you can only test for so much and then heard whispers of arsenic being used so have went back and target tested.
Something similar has been suggested to me Breno but we are talking a lot of frozen swabs being tested on these dates! I do not know what regular testing detects but you would have thought that ever since the old article above from 2011 raised the issue again, that arsenic should have been one of the substances detectable

[Messenger]

The suggestion that these old positives have made their way out of someone's waste paper basket is getting louder and louder

[gutwagon]

Is it just a coincidence that we have a new leader and now this trainer gets a positive ? Must be !

[thepacingman]

Reckon HRV have left themselves somewhat open on this one, re: consistency of decisions.

Two arsenic positives announced on the same day.
One a high profile trainer and the other with all due respect, someone most people would have never heard of.

Will be interesting to see how each case is actioned and pans out taking past cases into account. We've all seen it before.
The big name ends up with a slap on the wrist. The no name gets the book thrown at them and the authorities then spruik about how tough they are on drug cheats.

[Messenger]

Victoria’s racing integrity commissioner is auditing drug swabbing across the three racing codes amid concerns that tests are being destroyed or going missing, and that positive drug tests are not being prosecuted

http://www.harnesslink.com/International/Racing-drug-tests---concerns-over-swab-compliance

They are getting serious and looking in that waste paper bin

[DRUIDRACING]

nsw should do the same thing if the rumors are anything to go by.

[gutwagon]

Looks like the participants were right about certain stables getting special treatment and other integrity issues.
The main thing this new board must do is listen and communicate with trainers, drivers , owners , punters and breeders. When these people start to believe that the industry is clean and fair and only then can we start to move forward and prosper again.

[Amlin]

A Victorian greyhound tested positive to Arsenic in January 2016 and stewards opened an inquiry within four weeks. The sample was tested by Racing Analytical Services Limited.

[Messenger]

This would have to be the stewards' pick at Melton tonight ;)

[Messenger]

3 more from earlier this year

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31504

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31503

http://www.harness.org.au/news-article.cfm?news_id=31502

[Messenger]

This HRV RAD board hearing makes for interesting reading on the arsenic issue

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/HRV-RAD-Board-Hearing---Des-Hilton

"As background, with the acquisition of a machine capable of testing for cobalt by RASL (preventing need to test for samples to be sent interstate or overseas), in June 2015 the laboratory (RASL) were also able to commence the routine testing of all collected urine samples for other metals including arsenic. With a number of samples above the threshold becoming apparent in racing jurisdictions, and common explanations as to the cause of such irregularities provided, the University of Melbourne were engaged to conduct an administration trial by RASL, HRV and other racing authorities that had also been screening raceday samples for the presence of arsenic.
At the RAD Board hearing, in addition to the consideration of statements from HRV Stewards and RASL, the HRV RAD Board considered a report from Associate Professor Cate Steel and Professor Ted Whittem from the University of Melbourne which centred on the extensive research conducted by the University of Melbourne where a trial was conducted to research the levels of arsenic in horses that had ingested a known amount of CCA treated timber sawdust.
The trial revealed that it is a possibility that a horse could have a urinary level of arsenic that exceeds the threshold concentration if it chews and ingests a sufficiently large quantity of CCA treated timber.
Further studies will be done in the future in an attempt to distinguish between the inorganic and organic forms of arsenic."

"The RAD Board also considered that the arsenic threshold had been developed a number of decades ago in Hong Kong in response to the suggestion (at the time) that horses were being ‘stopped’ through the use or arsenic rather than any suggested enhancement of performance."

[trish]

"it chews and ingests a sufficiently large quantity of CCA treated timber".

I wonder how many logs a horse has to ingest on race day to return a positive & can anyone tell me if any of these horses they tested in this study have particularly large front teeth.

[Messenger]

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Emma-Stewart-guilty---Fined-250

All the old cases seem to have been resolved now with the penalty being loss of prizemoney
Those not keeping a log book have also been fined $250 which I feel should be considered more important by professionals and is too light

A new batch have been charged

http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia/Pending-RAD-Board-Hearings---

[trish]

https://ecoequine.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/depositphotos_6097433_m.jpg (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjzyfm489bQAhUBLJQKHSHLD68QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fecoequine.wordpress.com%2F2013%2 F07%2F14%2Ftop-five-mistakes-made-when-feeding-a-horse%2F&psig=AFQjCNFS0Sj4Sz9mL7T94wtCO5NoHgRzqg&ust=1480815950041753)

[trish]

Obviously start at the trees & progress to the posts & railings.........naughty horses!!!
Had to laugh at this photo, person is patting it for being a good horse & eating the timber!!! http://f.tqn.com/y/horses/1/W/M/R/horsebitingfencelgo.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwiy3-WP9NbQAhULo5QKHd_dDjgQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhorses.about.com%2Fod%2Fstablevic esandproblems%2Fa%2FWhy-Horses-Chew-Wood.htm&psig=AFQjCNHezvXtgD7QVufoZRj8QdT36e2_7A&ust=1480816129359161)