Let the games begin
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=34399
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Let the games begin
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=34399
Gareth Hall reports that Hector Jay Jay has broken down and is out :( What a friggin shame
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=34658
First rankings
http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia...nking-released
Mark Purdon at 1,4,9 & 16
Only 38 acceptances. There must be some danger the heats wont be full fields.
We are down to 43 in the latest rankings
http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=35170
Soho Tribecca into 2nd favourite. On his recent runs I have him 2nd pick for the series behind Lazarus and just ahead of Chicago Bull, but it surprises the market as a whole has Soho in front of Lenny.
3 of the top ranked 29 scratched
http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia...ominion-series
Unfortunately only 28 final acceptors
http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=35421
Fields out for Round 1 heats and the first heat looks the best on paper.
Soho Tribeca drawn 2 V Lazarus in 9. With Devendra and Run Oneover drawn 1 and 4 respectively I wouldn't think the early lead is there for Soho but I would imagine if he went knocking those two would hand up. If Lazarus puts in a dominant performance here he would have to tighten in to even money for the series.
Heat 2 and Lenny is drawn to lead and win. Tiger Tara I would suspect to go to the chair and give a sight but I wouldn't expect him to seriously challenge the way the draws have panned out.
Heat 3 and Chicago Bull has drawn to lead and win. Interesting to see how San Carlo measures up.
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=GP241117
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This form comment on Lenny The Shark. #WorkExperienceKid
This is WA's Big event - unprofessional work like that should never happen
If you are having trouble reading Katie's post, it reads
Not produced in trials and market may be best guide
http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?m...rc=GPM24111757
ps He trains from Avenel not Menangle
I keep laughing out loud at how ridiculous it is. Even Tiger Tara (and Lazarus) is hilarious - "Makes WA debut here for visiting trainer Kevin Pizzuto." No sh*t Sherlock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
The form guide hasn't been finalised yet and it's completely unprofessional that it is not finalised this close to the biggest race in the southern hemisphere for Pacers. Are the form guides automatically populated in the interim between fields being released and final form guides going out?
It looks like the comments that used to go in the paper years ago (they probably still do - I just don't get the paper) that were done by the AAP (Australia Associated Press).
The AAP form comment was done by some young journalist student who probably knew nothing about racing. They would record the basic data after a race (eg beaten 2m 5th 2.01) with a basic comment eg ran home late. The comments were then able to be reproduced for the next start.
Could even be a computer generating the comments these day.
WA never does an analysis of the horses racing on the HRA website in the format as done by Vic and NSW. It uses the form guide style of analysis and selecting the winners, which they have done for years It is quite basic but I suppose in some ways effective. What you guys are referring to is the "cut and paste" method they use such as"not produced in trials" which is a bit ordinary. This information is then used in other publications such as the herald sun in the Friday racing roundup. I know they do quite a bit of video type form guide with trainers and drivers and the chief WA writer does his summary in various print and online as well. Wayne Currall also did an article yesterday in the WA HRA section in which he described lenny as in "red hot form"
Fixed Odds out for all races on Inters Opening Night:
https://www.tabtouch.mobi/#fobracing...ate=2017-11-22
Wish I could bet on Tabtouch from over here in Canada. The TabNZ site is awful
The form guide and comments for Gloucester Park has been updated since this afternoon. Take the 4YO Classic. Ultimate Machete (barrier 1) appears to have had 3 starts since this arvo and won some hick race called the New Zealand Free For All last Friday.
All very good but they still pick Rocknroll Legend (barrier 3) to win. His form is OK, but 24 starts, 6 wins, 5 seconds and 3 thirds for $49,159 doesn't stack up on paper against Ultimate Machete's 21-9-6-4 and $573,827. And rated a handy(!!!!) 1:51.9 from the death last Friday.
Good thing nobody puts their name to to the selections because, in these litigious times, they might be sued for misleading the public. Does nothing to put the sport in a positive light.
Will the bookies give the punters a little treat and let Lazarus' price out a touch after that? Doubt it.
Ameretto and Kezz, all those Stawell wins behind Kezz.
As much as I love small track atmosphere - when it comes to sprint distances tracks like GP make drawing well essential
Ultimate Machete ran the fastest time of the night in the 4yo Classic.
Interesting to note the prizemoney distribution - the winner takes $80k of the $125k
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...17#GPM24111750
I think the prizemoney allocation is reasonable- most winners get about 60-65%, the exception at GP is the interdom heats where the winner gets about 51%. I think those interdom heat winners should get a few grand more for sure.
Ultimate machette should have run time time, he just won $150,000 in FFA company in NZ at his last start.
Total bullshit that an international horse can come over here after that type of win against FFA horses and then draw 1 in a 4 yo group 1 race in WA and win by 10m. I dont care if Australians or Biafrans own the horse. The quicker officials bring in a qualification rule i.e 5 starts in the state or domiciled for 3 months before being allowed to enter Group 1/2 races the better. The only exception to be the Interdominion. Then watch the squealing go on.
Teecee brought it up before he arrived Pat (see below)
http://www.harnessracingforum.com/sh...ng-Farce/page3
I don't know that putting an end to international racing is necessarily the way to go
I have made it clear in the past that I don't like seeing all the money going to NZ but what if Tiger Tara had won the NZ Cup
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan of jate
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Originally Posted by Fan of Jate
I see Breno's post was edited, anyway, really Pat?! Really...the Golden Nugget as well? Add the Chariots :(
Maybe some sort of PBD for the first two Perth races, still entice the top class 4 yo's with the RBD Nugget, but there would come a year the locals would be squealing.
Isn't the concept of group racing to pit the best against the best? Always has been for as long as I can remember in all spheres of racing.
Austalian, and for that matter Nth American or European have always been welcome to compete in Group events down under.
NZ even sets aside a space in each heat of the JEWELS specifically for and Austalian entry. WE want to see your best and our best competing at that elite level.
Also as an aside..
It is the intention of NZ clubs and HRNZ to bring back a Trotters ID championship. Afterall the official title of the Interdoms was and still is..."Interdominion PACING AND TROTTING Championship".
They will be at Group level and all will be welcome.
Just to cheer you up a bit, Pat, the FFA won by Ultimate Machete was the $234K (NZ) New Zealan Free For All. It was probably one of the weakest in recent memory, partly by the decision to run the Inter Dominion heat 7 days later 6,000 kms away. And a lot of the "good" NZ horses are no longer in NZ.
In the 4YO Classic 7 of the 12 runners were either NZ bred, raced or owned. And, despite your rant, 16 of the 28 Inter heat contenders were either NZ bred, raced or owned. What a great series it would be running 3 rounds of heats with just the remaining 12!
Save your best rant for later in the season Pat, because a horse the equal (I reckon better) than Ultimate Machete will be in the eastern states to dominate the big 4yo races. And, like Ultimate Machete, he will be a 4yo racing in 4yo races! Outrageous!
And squeal they will!Quote:
Originally Posted by arlington
Perhaps Donald Trump might build a wall at Eucla?
Yes, it was a rant for sure and we do want to see the best against the best but for mind in that race it wasn't the case. Prizemoney won should come into the equation here and I think I have bought that up before. We talk about odds on favourites in harness racing and no wonder this horse started as red hot favourite. There is no possible chance any other horse could have won that race. The international horses in harness cannot be compared to gallops either as seen by an outsider winning the Melbourne cup this year. Can you imagine a horse from Ireland coming over and starting at $1.20 race favourite in the melbourne cup? I dont think they would let it happen. Definitely not an even playing field.
Tiger Tara has only been over here 12 months probably less, so has it been adopted already?
One of the obvious answers to the issue you raised Trevor that if international horses did not race then the race would fall over, is that the spots would be filled immediately by local horses. There would never be a small field or non existent race just because international horses were not represented.
"the spots would be filled immediately by local horses. There would never be a small field or non existent race just because international horses were not represented"
Really, Pat? There were 28 final acceptances for the series. Where were the "local" horses? WA racing would fall over without NZ-bred horses, do the maths.
No good coming out now wanting to turn a FFA series into PBD's. Do the same with the 4yo Classic and it would soon lose its sheen. Of course, this would suit the parochial fans but I fear we would soon be running the ID at Broken Hill or somewhere as non-descript because the sport would shrivel on the vine.
I was thinking along the lines of extending and elevating the rabbit-proof fence and electrify with 66,000 volts to keep the eastern hordes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Showgrounds
Which leaves the WA industry where? 66 horses with NZ suffix raced (or emergency) for racing Friday night. Only 11 of those were temporary for the big races. 55 with NZ suffix are WA trained!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
115 total raced (or emergy). Less 20 visitors = 95 total WA trained horses.
55/95 WA trained horses with NZ suffix.
58% of the starters on opening night of an Inter Dominion Championship were bred about 6,000 kms away from Gloucester Park. On the other hand, last year's "NZ" Inter winner was Wangaratta-bred.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
The horse I believe to be the best currently in NZ (while Lazarus is in WA) is NSW bred.
Twilight heats tonight
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=FV281117
East coast workers can watch them and still be in bed by 10pm :)
I am glad I heard Sky1 mention the exclusive Inter coverage on Sky2 after the 2nd heat.
I cannot find any mention of it anywhere - even on the WA site
Did they do this for the first round of heats last week?
The extended coverage gives you a look at the crowd (outside at least) - it looks pretty average, Tuesday twilight or not.
ps Can't we ban horse nose strips - as if we need more gear on harness horses
Tiger Tara has taken 1.5 secs off the Tk Rec and Lazarus has gone super
With the 2 WA hopes looking good, we just need them all to hold it together for 2 more races for what shapes to be a fantastic final
Tiger tara went brilliantly and may be capable of an upset in the final if it gets a draw. Been performing very well at the top level for some time now. The buy of the century for the Pizzuto clan.
Mark Purdon is quietly playing them all off a break, he hasn't asked any more of Lazarus than absolutely necessary so far and will have the horse 110% on final night. Only bad luck will beat him in the final and i haven't seen him in the heats.
I am glad I heard Sky1 mention the exclusive Inter coverage on Sky2 after the 2nd heat.
I cannot find any mention of it anywhere - even on the WA site
Did they do this for the first round of heats last week?
No, it was because there wasn't much international racing till later in the night and the heats were scheduled earlier than last Friday - you may have noticed that after the third heat last night, all the international gallops meetings started. Shame they did not advertise the all night coverage earlier - I only happened on it on twitter as I was leaving work at 6.30pm Melb time. I would not expect to see it for the final heats on Friday nor for the final. It was fantastic coverage though - see what they can do when they try and give our sport the coverage it deserves and needs :)