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Fields out for heats.
They need to change the name, it's insulting to previous ID champs but that's an argument for another day.
Heat 3 the strongest by a country mile (5 that would be considered winning chances in the final with the right run)......feel for connections who miss the final in that heat
Have I missed something....Smoken Up missing??
Lance stated that Trigger is flat, and will race in a few weeks. Not retired :)
Would have loved to see him in the Inter, he is just one of those once in a life time horses that creates passion and excitement!
My thoughts exactly! Call it the Ben Hur.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_L
[QUOTE=brent_L;30572]They need to change the name, it's insulting to previous ID champs but that's an argument for another day.
Maybe "The Australasian" in the current format.
Maybe the Quasidominion?
The Claytons Dominion Championship
The Melbourne heat should be a good one also the second Sydney heat will be interesting.
heat rankings?? http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=22716
Will be interesting if the INTER DOMINION might revert back in the future. Over eight days, Heats Saturday, and Tuesday, final Saturday. all at the one venue?
We could revert back to the early 80's, and call it the Trans Tasman Challenge. Remember them? Delightful Lady, Popular Alm, Gammalite etc. Doing battle over 2-3 weeks!
Lucky he got 'flat', while Lance is suspended!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoken
Looks like Yvonne Sampson is heading up the coverage of the Inter final at Menangle. I suppose it would be remiss of me not to include a quick snippet of some of her work.
http://www.news.com.au/video/id-FuMG...-out-on-camera
She certainly has got MY attention Leigh!
Let's get paid. Favourites win in Sydney, Jnr gets the lead off of his bro in Perth.....walks in, favs go 1-2 in NZ (have no idea on the order though).
The other two heats have me stumped. Originally thought Forever Gold would hand up to Avonnova so Dixons horse wasn't on her back but with the scratching I'm thinking FG best chance is now to try and lead. The 10yo emergency couldn't then sprint lane and qualify, could it??
Restrepo at $2.50 looks a terrible price. Will he lead? If so KC looks the bet of the night e/w, but if Restrepo hands up (or gets crossed) I don't want a bar of KC and ICT & CB will be the key players. May be a no bet race for me.
What are everyone's thoughts.
6 top races in 75 min - ya gotta luv it
Hey Brent, Clinton Hall on Twitter says he won't be handing up and I know the connections want to him to try for an all the way win. Rather than looking at it as a ID heat, it's a 50K feature and they've been gifted the rail with the one of their three dangers drawn to park and the other two off the back line. The horse is unbeaten when leading including 2 wins v ITMQ. He broke the clock at Byford last Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_L
I know outside the top 4 in the market this heat falls away but David Hercules and Im Victorious would start rock solid second elects in both the Sydney heats. They'd be Fav from a decent draw or second elect from any gate in VIC and to a slightly lesser extent Hokonui Ben and Livingontheinterest in that order.
If you were to pick top 4 in their current form for every heat, the WA heat is the strongest. The Eastern State and NZ press saying otherwise, were also saying this time last year that ITMQ needed a third Interdomion and nearly 4 Million in earnings to prove himself a Champion : )
David Hercules in the X Factor. He's a phenom on the engine and I hope he makes it to Menangle. He's the one horse in the series from a decent gate (which he hasn't got in a feature for 2 seasons) that'll get forward and keep rolling. His 1.53.6 for 2130 around GP in May was incredible, 54 last week under a stranglehold. Other than Beautide, I don't think there's another horse in the series that could burn the candle at both ends like he can.
and next year, kill the NZ heat and have a third heat at Menangle or second heat at Melton. 9 horses over 2 years is taking the piss.
I hear what you're saying but if they're gonna stick with 'Interdominion' that simply can't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaroldParker
Although the number per heat is definitely a worry, my gripe is with the quality. Some are claimers for crying out loud.
Agree regarding DH & IV.......absolute stars (and proven in eastern states). The other two in that heat are reliant on draws. If either of the good two had the pole in this race Living & Ben would be 12/1 or greater.
Thanks for the Livingontheinterest info, it is greatly appreciated and probably changes my wager. That said, they've all gone bonkers! I could have somewhat understood them holding up before the scratching but now it borders on lunacy. They cannot possibly win the race with IV outside & DH behind.....don't believe he'd run 2nd either. I understand his record when leading but no way he's going as well as those occasions he beat the champ......he just held of Ben the other week! I'll eat the proverbial pie if I'm wrong but really have to believe that as the race gets closer and with a little pressure off the arm from Jnr, sanity will prevail.
GL Bob & thanks again.
I thought on Chasing and Pacing on Thursday night that Adam said TAB were running a big 6 on the heats? I only have a TAB account and all I can find is the big 6 for Melton and the first 4 pool guarantees on the 5 Australian heats.
Anyone?
While I thought better than to do one, I seen the Interdom big 6 available on Tab terminal earlier today.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Escape Club
Firstly, this isn't an inter dominion, I'm going to call it the Inter City Invitational Challenge! Secondly, why are all the heats not over the same distance range. Melton and Brisbane heats are too short as compared with others. Menangle have extended the start by 100m to make it more in keeping with NZ and wa? Anyway my tips:
Terror to love
Beautide
C blaster
For a reason
Field officer
I'm vic.
Agree with Nathan about the distance, The final is going to be over 3000+metres and all the heats should be run over a similar distance, Probably a minimum of 2500 metres for the first round.
Pedestrian!! Insulting!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_L
True.
I agree with distances as well, from 2100 odd up to 2600 odd, what's that all about? I understand that release points may play a part but that's a fairly large discrepancy.
Backed it a place. Ouch!!
Track is terrible!!
BANG!
Restrepo....HUGE!!
Blaster has one of the wildcards. Sydney or Perth the other?
Frenetic Pick6 is going to pay a motza!!!!
Good to see all the big names get through.
NZ heat need to do something there for next year, not sure what because if you dont run a heat and you make them come to aus to qualify thats unfair.
Vic heat as expected a real gem with all 4 earning their place into the final. Restreppo alhough going down was dynamite.
Menangle heats top guns beaten but i dont think they would of lost any admirers, Mach beauty again showed that at this level he is competitive with a sit.
Good win by Forever Gold but i just cant see it being a chance in the final.
W.A heat perfect drive by jnr the master of G/Park and as expected IV was too good.
Barrier draw will be crucial for most but pre draw Im leaning towards Smolda ive been a big fan since the chariots although i have the utmost respect for TTL (IMO hes the best horse in Australasia at the longer distance but he just doesnt seem to be comfortable around Menangle).
Very even final with most of the field having a winning chance if they get the right run.
If they are going to keep this format only 2 heats will be run over the same distance. Why can't they run all heat's at Menangle then have a second round the following Saturday then the final the week later ? This way all runner's are on a level playing field and and it would make the trip worthwhile for all competitor's .The Bohemia Crystal could still be run as a group 1 and the cons could be run as a group 2 or 3 for the left over horses that competed in the heat's.This way all horse's compete on a level playing field and have 3 chances to make a quid.The horse's come and have to qualify for the Miracle Mile so why not for our show piece race of the industry.
The NZ heat was a farce, little more than trackwork, to me making a mockery of the new Inter concept as it seem's like it will stay as it is.
Nothing exciting about last night at all to be honest. This format sucks and is very boring!
It's nothing like the ID of old and should be renamed. If they are going to run only 1 round of heats and then the final, Have 2 Heats in Victoria and 2 Heats at Menangle over a similar distance and make the Kiwi's come here to qualify. I'm a big fan of both Terror to Love and Smolda but the NZ heat was a joke last night. Apart from the winner in the QLD heat, The rest are average. I thought that WA's heat was reasonably strong but they should be in the same boat as the Kiwi's and come across if they want to compete. Honestly, This current format is all over the shop IMHO.
This new format is a sad joke ! Imagine how good the old format would have been at Menangle with all heats and final over the mile ! Could have been a speed explosion !
That would be a pretty good option as that's what Menangle is all about, Speed and fast times and maybe it could be called, THE SPEED EXPLOSION. The amenities look pretty good at Menangle now with plenty of room right next to the track and no problems for the horses to go out and work in between the heats and finals but to bring things onto a level playing field, Make all the horses race at Menangle and not all over the shop.
Hi GregQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hando
Over 12 months ago I mentioned on another thread about how all horses have to come here to qualify for the MM as they want to showcase Menangle, then to run the Inter as this format they have is a ........ joke. To be honest all they have done is contradicted themselves as one minute they want them here and then next they give away heats to other states. They go on how they have spent so much money on Menangle getting it up to world class facilities well why don't they use it. Now if they turn around and say they have positive feed back about this format I would say open your eye's as I havn't seen a positive written anywhere. As for the racing I didn't think it was that exciting, they should of raced over the same distance and to be honest I thought the QLD heat was more like a FFA. The old format showed not just how good you had to be to get into the final but showed how good trainers had to be to manage there horses. Fingers crossed that next year is the last time Menangle have the Inter unless it reverts back to the way it should be.
Hi Dallas, JD contradicted himself last night, The QLD winner Forever Gold is a mare and he said The Ladyship is not an option for her and she should have been here to compete in the Qualifiers. I would have no problems with that if it was the same for all the big races, MM, Inter, Ladyship etc. The beauty about the MM was that everybody knew that they had to compete in certain races, Newcastle Mile etc and that was great and now they are running qualifiers all over the shop for the Inter which really seems like a contradiction.
Hi Richard
As good as mare that Forever Gold is she would of been more suited to a Ladyship mile than a 3000m Inter, in saying that she has an invite and I can understand why the connections will head to the Inter as it's a race everyone wants to be in and I wish the connections all the best. Do they have the powers to give a mare a wild card for the Ladyship as I'm not sure on the race conditions. Also I don't think Forever Gold has raced beyond 2138m.
A mare who qualifies for the ID gets an auto invite to the Ladyship I am pretty sure. Also a 4yo who qualifies for the Interdom gets a spot in the chariots.Quote:
Originally Posted by mango
I dont think that is correct. i think the horse needs to have competed in one of the qualifying lead up races.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Forever Gold did run in the Robin Dundee but locked wheels and finished last I think. Theoretically she could be invited to the Ladyship
Might have to get Adam Fairley to give us a ruling on that but from what JD said last night, Forever Gold will have to run in the Interdom. It's pretty rare for a mare to make the Interdom final these days and it certainly would look good on her Broodmare resume.
The owners of FG have said that they do wish to go in the ID, so there is no issue