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Hello All,
I would have to agree with what Mango has just said. I would have thought that $ 8,800 would have been around the mark. I think that $ 10,000 + gst is a little high, especially for a smaller size 1st season sire. Be interesting to see what happens now with Rock N Roll Hanover.
Yes definitely Mango
He is all of the above as a racehorse but and a big but unproven at this stage even Art Major came here with big wraps but started out around the average price for good stallions he didn't start on top dollar he worked his way up and even now as a premier stallion not all of his stock sold that well at the sales. I'm afraid this is a straight out cash grab of good promos and sparkling lights for me
Hello Nat,
A very good point with Art Major. I believe that his fee was $6,600 with Pepper Tree farm in his 1st season and that was when the economy and sales results were in better shape.
Hi Nat/Love Of Courage
I think Rocknroll Heaven would attract heaps more mare's at $8800 than $11000 and it would even itself out $$$$ wise in the end. Example if he gets 150 at $11000 thats 1.65mil and if he got 200 at $8800 thats 1.76mil and i do think there would be a big difference in number of mare's served if he was priced right. And your right Art Major started out at a good price and got the foals on the ground which has helped him make a horse with Heaven starting up at $11000 he wont get know where as many mare's and the thing is you need the numbers on the ground if you are to make it as a stallion.
He will get a full book I'm sure and he would have paid his way there and back several time if he stood for $5000 I think $6500-$7500 would have been more the mark but we seem to be getting out of hand on these service fee's and even $5000 is a fair investment for the average family breeding a mare or two in this industry. Look at Sportswriter has been labled the Artsplace clone and has a 2yld record to boot stood for just $6000 SBSW $13,000 the best 2yld and 3yld ever
And yes I agree alot of foals on the ground at a lesser fee is a better investment for the stallion owners than a little at $alot
so much for service fees going down to be in line with the sales
amazing how one stallions hype (rocknroll heaven) has resulted in an 11k service fee and another stallions hype has made everyone hate the horse and couldnt get a mare at stud (auckland reactor)
I have to agree. I really do like the horse BUT it's worth remembering that BOTH Bettor's Delight & Art Major made their debuts at $6,600 incl. GST if I recall correctly and Christian Cullen made his at $4,400 incl. GST. I think R N R Heaven is high side at 11k. His right price here is anywhere between 6.6 & 8.8 incl. GST.
Hi Triple
I think by putting that price on him he has lost 50+ mare's already.
Hello Mango,
Got to agree with you there, the service fee will cost a few mares. I like the stallion but in todays market think that this service fee is too high and will cost mares for sure.
Look forward to Rock N Roll Hanover announcement because if his fee is sensible he will get a lot of the mares that Heaven would have got.
I caught your earlier post Mango which you edited. All I can say is if he grew six inches perhaps they feed him Penis enlargement pills:o
Hi Love Of Courage
Yeah that was my stuff up as i read it wrong whilst trying to type watch Bathurst and talk on the phone i can't multi task but i must admit it was worth putting on there to get your reply what a crack up. And i think in an earlier post someone said Hanover will be $12000 + gst and i think there on the mark.