And somehow Rick I don’t think a potential discount of $467 is the reason Aussies buy in Nz
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And somehow Rick I don’t think a potential discount of $467 is the reason Aussies buy in Nz
Dot , I was thinking that the NZ breeders would pocket the savings.
Thanks Dot. Did not consider GST
Jason Bonnington is trying to boost turnover
Most of his Suggested Bets are Flexi Trifectas
Now instead of stating cost as $8
He has it as: $40 gets 500%
https://www.harness.org.au/punting/p...?keyNum=253056
Anybody know why R2 at Echuca was abandoned?
A further fall in take 2 of Race 2. Ryan Duffy straight to his feet. Race 2 declared a NO RACE
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Kima Frenning conscious after a fall Race 2 Echuca. She is up and looks to be ok but sore. Damian Wilson got straight to his feet. Calaquendi is up and ok. 2 & 6 late scratchings. Decision
Kima in hospital under observation for concussion
It is worth a thread but if I created one Kev would move it here anyway :)
Happy Birthday Kev!! Many happy returns!
Shhhh
Where are the video replays for today's Horsham meet ?
What was the significance of the $19,999.14 races at Menangle on Saturday night?
https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...s/?mc=PC060719
Don’t know Kev, I’d hazard a guess and say they are finals of a series for country based horses and if the race was worth 20k or more the winner would be excluded from eligibility for other races in the future under their programming. But very interested to know if someone knows the actual reason.
An old poster suggested Letspendanitetogetha will have his work cut out for him with his Menangle and Albion Park races only an hour apart
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#APM13071901
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#PCM13071906
Pretty sure whoever used to drive Daryl Douglas around could give it a crack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Dot, I see one of yours today is up against a stablemate that ran in the $250k Gp1 Auckland Cup but is only assessed NR52
Oh I didn’t get past seeing that she’s drawn outside the backrow at the track she has never had any luck at! I don’t have anything to do with the noms Kev, and as I wrote previously having a lesser horse in the big stables often means they go where the rest go, not where they are best suited.
I haven’t looked at the ratings or recent form, or performance history of the other runners in the race Kev, but there are what appear to be anomalies more broadly, rightly or wrongly, in the transition process that others have commented on elsewhere. Part of that problem at least is that there is no retrospectivity to the process and horses transitioned over at a point in time based on their C and M ratings at that time, adjusted for some on performance between 1 May and 1 Jul. Similar happened in the transition to HWOE in WA, and there certainly were winners and losers on transition in both systems.
I dont know why the stable mate is rated a 52 but I’ll presume it is correct and no errors were made in the transition calculations. Low horse numbers everywhere and FFA conditions for group 1 races such as the Auckland Cup mean lowly assessed horses do chance their hand at them, and if they wernt placed highly in them it won’t impact on their transitions to our National Ratings system and if they didn’t win their HWOE assesment in WA.
On face value Kev it is dissapointing to be racing against a horse of apparently much superior class, and by that I mean as an measure of its ability not its assessment under the prior handicapping scheme, but in time the National Ratings should reduce the instances of that occurring, particularly if our ratings are adopted in NZ. But Kev any ratings or handicapping scheme is more a reflection of success not of a horses actual ability and there will be always be those progressive horses who’s rating or assessment is less then their ability as they work their way through the grades.
The only way to counter that is differential prizemoney that encourages connections to race them against horses of similar ability but not necessarily similar ratings.
There might be 12 runners in R4 at Launceston on Sunday but Ben Yole is a certainty
Overall he trains 54 of the 88 horses at the meet
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#LNC21071905
Not to be out done by Ben, Grant Dixon is training 9 of the 11 starters in the "QBRED TRIAD - 2YO Colts & Geldings (Group 1)" at Albion Park this Saturday night.
With the conditions of the R7 Trot for NR 56-120 at Kilmore tonight, it is a pity we didn't have a 120 trotter accept as it would be rather nostalgic to see a horse come off a mark of 120m!
http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?m...rc=KIC18071908
Been some more talk on this horse, Raptors Flight NZ on twitter. He was a C2 M1 on transition but for some reason the M1 assesment for any horse was not considered in the translation, they transitioned on their C class only and last 5 starts, so he was 60 minus 8 for worse then 6th in races of $15k to 50k, races in the old metro class, to be NR52.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
This does appear to be very unfair to horses who have never been assessed higher then the lower C classes on transition that a Metroploitan win assesment can just be discarded as not having existed on transition. Had Raptors Flight NZ been a C2 M2 he would have transitioned at NR87, NR95 minus 8 for his last five.
So 1 metro win was worth 0 rating points on transition, but a second metro win would have been worth, in this case at least, 35 ratings points on transition. Something not right here.
A poster emailed me that social media has been abuzz that a BIG Harness Racing story is about to break
They also said that it was strange that although the Stewart stable was NOT mentioned by anyone
they tweeted "there is no basis to this innuendo"
The emailer also thought it might prove to be a Tassie story if there is a story at all
The Gaths would have to be shaking their heads after proving too good for the Stewart odds on pop in R2 at Bendigo
Only to be beaten by the pole marker who ran several secs faster than she has ever run before
Yes she had the cushy run but she has had the same run several times of late
They could beat the Stewart stable but not the puppet
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#BNC30071903
I didn't know where to plonk this
Kiwis crossing ditch for Victorian winter
in case you missed it
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...ic-for-winter/
I think someone is having a joke but I have never seen this before
Racenet under the Meeting venue give the weather and track rating
For Devenport today they say SNOW
I say it could be a joke as the forecast is not that bad down there today
https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-fo...-64-hcp-race-1
Check out the time between races on the 12 race Mildura card tomorrow (it is of course less as this is starting times)
23min
21min
20min
35min
35min
41min
39min
35min
38min
38min
25min
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I know it is the TAB's doing but it is all over the place
You seem to be a man in the know Kev.
Why have Victoria replays been so slow coming up lately?
At Menangle etc they seem to nearly be up before the race is finished.
When I last contacted HRV about it Cody really only guaranteed me that they would be up in 24hrs and told me I can always find them on the TAB and Sky websites
Damian Burns trained a double on the first day of the season at Stawell and took the same two horses to Ballarat tonight and won again at longer odds - particularly Mornings who paid $16
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=BA120919
No race bettering 2 minute for the mile rate at Ararat tonight - that is refreshing in Vic nowadays :D
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=AR220919
harness.org seems to be down tonight
Both HRA and HRV sites seem to be down this morning
Rc2 Menangle. I would have thought if driving $1.30 shot you pop off the fence. Be a few unhappy punters
Note: Didn't have a bet in race
And from the Stewards' Comments column it would appear no questions asked!
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#PCM19101908
There is a QDT now. Apart from Melb Cup day yesterday would probably be the biggest punting day of the year with big features in both Melb and Syd, Menangle Rc2 would have been hoping to piggy back some of that and it really does no favours for the cheats on seats perception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Here's what the stewards thought about the driver, who appeared to get blocked in:Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
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CONVICTION – Held up for clear running in the home straight and was not fully tested. When questioned regarding the tactics adopted, in particular the decision to remain on the marker pegs and not move out into a running line position prior to the 800 metres when covered by THE BETTORMACK NZ, Driver A Turnbull explained that in her opinion her gelding is not suited when racing outside the leader and this was considered following the geldings last preparation. Ms Turnbull stated that previously when outside the leader, her gelding had fired up in its runs and although racing well in fast time at Eugowra on 7 October 2019, this was in a lower class event. Ms Turnbull added that although being positioned in a pocket from the 800 metres, she had not expected THE BETTERMACK NZ to hold on as it had done in the home straight and also had considered MOTU GATECRASHER NZ the horse which she was following, would kick in the run.
Based on what? Last prep sitting outside Majordan in 1.50.1 first half 54.9 compared to 57.2 and start before at Bathurst where it was 3WE 3WM before getting the death. What a cop out. Completely different situation both times. Ran home in 54.2 so wouldn't have had chance or been a problem if fired up at that pace. Take it Stewards didn't even investigate further. Why didn't Stewards make those statements/ask those questions about the prior races being different circumstances and if they did why isn't it in the report?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beltane
I have heard the term Teflon Turnbulls
I have a new system for betting in Vic
Have $10 on each of Ben Yole's runners
They pop up up often enough and at very good odds
Ride High V Colt Thirty One Saturday night at Melton with a few half handy sidekicks involved. I think this is a new race on the calendar so good job HRV.
The Yarra Glen cup tomorrow could be a good contest
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#YGC07111901