Should drivers be allowed to bet on horses.

exactly I do not know one driver or jockey that does not bet!!!

I won't name him so I don't incriminate, but one former leading driver used to have this as his mantra, and I quote -

"I don't care if I don't drive the winner, as long as I back the winner..."

Absolutely true 100%.

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Originally Posted by Zyuganov Leis

From my understanding, drivers ARE NOT permitted to bet. Your young driver is an idiot for talking out loud.

As awful as it sounds, it doesn't matter if there was a rule against them betting, all drivers would (and do), and if you think jockeys don't, your dreaming. ALL jockeys bet and some in very large demoninations.

And when they get caught they get outed Eg Robil and Shinn cant remember a harness driver being suspended.

What about trainer/drivers is he betting as a driver or trainer

I am more than happy to see drivers and trainers backing their own horses as long as its not with Betfair.

Seriously, you know they are trying and if they get beat it is because the animal isn't good enough, or the driver is outpointed or beaten by circumstances or just plain bad luck. You can't say they weren't trying. They backed their horse because they are trying.

Guys i realise this is not going to happen.My point though sport does have to take some drastic measure or as i said in original post will just wither and die.

Would hate to say how many joe punters have mentioned to me how come Smoken up is in the interdom this year when tested positive last year.My only answer is Justice has appealed the positive but to be stil going on after 12 months is a joke.

How long do Joe Punters expect that Smoken Up should not be allowed to race.
Preventing a horse from participating is only a penalty on the owners.
Without going into the issues of his positive swab, he has been tested any number of times since for no positive tests.
ast years issues are dealt with in NZ under NZ rules. NZ does not punish owners unnecessarily by banning horses from racing ad infinitum

As for the issue of drivers betting, I agree with Brad. Being able to back their drive gives an added incentive to try harder.
In NZ drivers are permitted to bet on horses only which they drive.
When questioned by stewards re their drive it is common for them to produce tickets showing they supported the horse on the tote. It's nearly the perfect defence.!!

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Originally Posted by Itisi

What about trainer/drivers is he betting as a driver or trainer

He's a driver the minute he get's handed the reins in the mounting yard...

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Originally Posted by teecee

How long do Joe Punters expect that Smoken Up should not be allowed to race.
Preventing a horse from participating is only a penalty on the owners.
Without going into the issues of his positive swab, he has been tested any number of times since for no positive tests.
ast years issues are dealt with in NZ under NZ rules. NZ does not punish owners unnecessarily by banning horses from racing ad infinitum

As for the issue of drivers betting, I agree with Brad. Being able to back their drive gives an added incentive to try harder.
In NZ drivers are permitted to bet on horses only which they drive.
When questioned by stewards re their drive it is common for them to produce tickets showing they supported the horse on the tote. It's nearly the perfect defence.!!

So when a horse draws 10 at Menangle and can't win over the mile due to having to go back to far etc and in the opinion of the driver he/she will find it hard to win so he/she doesn't back it, does that mean he/she wasn't trying?

So he/she has to fundamentally waste his driving fee/money having a bet to justify that he/she was on the job when in all accounts he/she was trying to begin with, it's just the job of winning was extremely hard to do in the first place?

Realistically, there's absout as much chance of stopping Drivers & Jockeys from having a bet as their is stopping the Hippies in Nimbin from growing Pot in the hills. As to whether or not they should be allowed to bet, it's kind of a moot point because those that want to do so...will ultimately find a way to do so, regardless. In one respect I would rather know that a Jockey or Driver had plonked his/her own hard earned down on their charge because you'd expect that they'd be giving it every chance and then some.