Back on the thread...Follow The Stars- the best Sthn Hemisphere bred 2yo I have seen in a VERY long time.
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Back on the thread...Follow The Stars- the best Sthn Hemisphere bred 2yo I have seen in a VERY long time.
Seen truckloads of exceptional juveniles in my time, anyone remember the name of Grant Dixons superstar 2-Y-0 from about eighteen months ago? hows he going now? There are exceptions to the rule as named in the above posts, but gee it's a mighty big call putting superstar status on ANY 2YO.
Its only the media who put superstar status on anything.
Full sister now 4 guessing she worth a bit breeding alone. What is the dams story? Aust database lacks a bit of info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V
My point was totally missed. I'm not trying to get anyone off side and by no means am I knocking any of the aforementioned horses but I don't care for exceptional/pretty fair/pretty well when I'm talking about the best. Scott Pendlebury is exceptional......Ablett is the best!! What I said was I don't believe I have seen a champion (best) younger horse turn out to be the best older horse of their time (golden reign does sound like a definite candidate but I was at milky bars, not pubs back then). It's rather similar with the thoroughbreds. I'm not a massive follower but Octagonal & Sunline are the only two that come to mind. I of course may be wrong (and I'm sure someone will be quick on the keyboard) but I just can't recall one.
Socks- good younger horse, not the best. A length or two below the top ones in a few Derbys.
Divisive- best younger horse, then BAFake. Was he maybe considered the best for a short time as an older horse?? I don't believe so.
Shakamaker- Courage UF way superior younger horse
Courage- Shaka caught up and probably went past as an older horse + Socks had his measure a few times.
Tailamade Lombo- great mare but not better than Christian Cullen, Sandy, Iraklis
Only others that come to mind are:
Elsu??- can't for the life of me recall him in any Derbys
Christian Cullen- was considered the best but injury prevented him competing for most of his 3yo term handing Holmes DG a bunch of Derby victories. Was this a blessing similar to BAF.
Auckland Reactor??- won NZ horse of the year a couple of times but I'm not sure of his 2/3yo stats
Cheers
VVV-same maternal family as We Will See, Historic, Seven O'Clock, Dontgetinmyway, Magical Mike etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
You're looking in the wrong places Brenno - classic families is the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
http://classicfamilies.net/HorseDeta...rseID=10166342
Click on one of his earlier dams and then use the descendants tab
or for the family
http://classicfamilies.net/cf/Family...milyNumber=u24
(for families I like to click on the heading of the last column to put them in Gp1 order)
Cheers Kevin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
I reckon I can waste at least a few days looking through that website at different families.
Edit: On second thought make that a few weeks.
I think this horse is obviously a freak, but can anyone tell me how a sales only race can be a Group 1.
I know the Magic Millions is not as it is a restricted to the sales race.
Agree Adam,Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Group 1 status races should be open to all comers in your category in my humble opinion.