Hi trotpace and Shannon
Shadow Play is a stunning looking Beast if you were walking around looking at horses and seen him in a paddock without knowing who he is he would be the one you want.
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Hi trotpace and Shannon
Shadow Play is a stunning looking Beast if you were walking around looking at horses and seen him in a paddock without knowing who he is he would be the one you want.
Artesian is a better sire then most would think. He just hasn't seen enough quality mares.
Don't be suprized if you see Santana Blue Chip's stud fee double after this first crop hits the track. Amazing horse. Amazing gait!
Hi trotspace, I tossed up between santanna or major in art. I rung the stud at the last minute to change to major in art. Maybe hearing this i pulled the wrong string? Went for him over santanna purely for size as my mare not overly bigQuote:
Originally Posted by trotpace
I agree with those two but i went with SANTANNA BLUE CHIP. I favor his looks and gait over MAJOR IN ART.
Both are great.
They were both same service fee price over here and major in art didn't chase a freak during his career.
That's right. Look at the money Santanna Blue Chip made chasing the greatest standardbred in history!
Did Santanna Blue Chip have a growing spurt since he retired? I've seen horses grow a full hand from 2-3 or 3-4. I know he was a little on the small side, just wondering if anyone who has worked with him or seen him at the stud could advise if he has grown at all since he has matured?? :) Thanks :)
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. They're ALL 15.2h Flashing. They're ALL 15.2h. :D
beach melody certainly hasnt got any stronger this year
Hi Nat,
Astreos also looked great:)
Guys;
I know this one is getting on a bit, but given the original thread has anyone considered Riverboat. Excluding this years crop of two year olds he has only 47 running around for 29 starters and 22 Winnners and averages out at $29,600 a starter. Granted Rohan Home loads his cannon a bit but just the same he value at $3,300. Maybe there is another out there that stacks better, i'd love to know.
Hey Rids
Good call he is an underated sire and probably hasn't had the greatest mare's so what he's done is tremendous.
Very good sire Rids, doesn't get near the credit he deserves. He has succeeded despite being badly managed all throughout his Sthn Hemisphere siring career.
Our Sir Vancelot, long in the tooth I know but for a sire who has average earnings over 23k per starter without throwing a superstar to blow that average up I think he has done a super job. Great bread and butter horses. Live or Die has to be there abouts. Throws champions from anywhere. What is the general concensus on Ponder? I dont know a whole lot about him but gee he is an impressive looking specimen.
A long time successful Trainer here in Sydney was a pretty big wrap for the OSV's.
He mentioned how tough & how sound they were, how you could throw anything at them and they'd go home, eat up & come back again the following week for more of the same.
I had the pleasure of jogging him once. You could feel the power in him through the lines, even at that speed.
I had a little mare by him, used to try her guts out week in week out. No star. Just hope she leaves one with the same attitude but a little more speed.
Interesting that you mention Ponder. His oldest are 3YO's and yesterday he sired two of the three winners of the $210,000 Adios Betty for Pennsylvania bred fillies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtrain
Ponder was a good tough racehorse and has a strong pedigree. His dam won $350k and is a half sister to Laughs, winner of $1.3 million. The $2.8 million winning Shark Gesture is from a half sister to Ponder.
I don't think Ponder got the patronage he deserved in Australia and he will probably never recover from that, but I have a good feeling about him. His oldest are 2YO's in Aust and he needs a few nice winners very soon or his siring career is in big trouble. Hopefully Pensare can give him his first winner at Bankstown on Friday.
Hi Eliteblood
I think you are right he was a good tough horse with a strong pedigree but because he didn't serve big numbers he will struggle unless he get's a superstar over the next couple of months. From memory i don't think he had a real good 2yr old in the states last year either. I'm not sure why but i've heard it mentioned before to stay away from The Panderosa line and then again you see Shadow Play get a good book of mare's, maybe Ponder struggled to attract mare's due to Art Major and Grinfromeartoear getting so many in the early years of his stud career.
They're clearly MUCH better 3yos Eliteblood. Those Pa fillies are in against some hot competition. Some very smart sires standing there.
Mine for value to me is Lis Mara a tried and true family that has been successful here in the past
Sands a Flyin
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