Everytime I go back and look at the replay I feel crook in the guts...and its not because of anything I ate. Stick with it Barney.
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Everytime I go back and look at the replay I feel crook in the guts...and its not because of anything I ate. Stick with it Barney.
Have you got a axe to grind with the Jack family Barney ?
Steve, Barney isn't the only one who thought this race stunk to high heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve
not at all just want to see the sport rid of this sort of crap dont you.
When i tip a horse dont want to see it butchered by someone who has no intention of winning but setting it up for stablemate as what happened in this race.Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
If wasnt suss whuy was the stewards involved you answer that
Race 5 Shepparton Thursday night, stewards have adjourned an inquiry into D Jacks tactics
Where did you see that nothing on harness website yet. like to know what they got him for.
It is in the stewards report from that meetingQuote:
Originally Posted by barney
Stewards report from that meeting has gone of harness site that long ago could you post the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itisi
Still there Barney 9/2/12 don't know how to do that link stuff. Sorry but is in AHR site racing section. Hope that helps
Thats not the one im looking for race in question was 7/12/ 2011 and inquiry was concluded Monday have been told got 8 weeks but cant find it on Harness .org.
Thanks for posting that link.
Look again. It's there now in the Stewards Wrap sectionQuote:
Originally Posted by barney
Thanks found it got the 8 weeks for his drive. Betting wasnt involved
He cops eight weeks,Scott Dyer gets six weeks for not giving his horse every chance. What we have I think is to light a sentence for these offences.
Under that rule its hard to give big sentences. It could just be an honest, 100% trying yet poor drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itisi
Scott Dyers suspension was 'overturned' on appealQuote:
Originally Posted by Itisi
Interesting race at Young tonight where Chloe Vargatira and Charm Alarm will meet again, both trained by new trainers and have drawn side by side
This surely tell you something,here we have a panel of stewards dish out a penalty to a driver they say never gave his horse every chance, and yet on appeal he gets off. Are our stewards incompetent or what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toohard
And they finished side by side. Backed Grace Artoise and thought she was home till Dream Runna produced an unbelievable finish thru' the guts, brave drive by Wilmot, bugga!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Was a very quick final finish from Dream Runna! Should never have run them down after getting out so late.Quote:
Originally Posted by broncobrad
Check the drive on "We dare To Dream", his licence should have been ripped up!
http://www.harness.org.au/video/vic/NYC15021201.wmv
http://www.harness.org.au/video/vic/NYC15021201.mp4
What else do you want him to do ? Get out and carry the horse, I think you are being harsh on this drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Form Student
Stewards report: horse stood down. drivers explanation accepted.
He came off the pole and was entitled to maintain that lead, handed up to the 1/3 fav when it was pointless in persevering. Nathan Jack is reknowned for going on with it. We dare to dream features prominently in the stewards report and was stood down to trial satisfactorily. Are you saying he (Cramp) drove ineptly or something else.
The horse was beat. It broke under its exertions. Even the horse that sat behind the leader folded at the end. Winner too hot. Nothing untoward here.
Geez Steve,Quote:
Originally Posted by The Form Student
I hope you don't get a job as steward!.... No one will have a licence! The drive had absolutely no impact on the way the horse folded.
Cheers,
Dan
Listen boys.....he punched up inside them out of the gate & held the lead.......that's OK, he got pressured a bit by another runner........that's fine.....he maintained the lead for a while as the favourite worked around aiming for the lead...........1st quarter of the last mile was in 29.8, in no other race did they break 32 for that quarter.....the 1/3 favourite then got the lead off him.......and now he can trail the favourite for the rest of the race, maybe hang on for a place......fair enough, I don't know the horse...........but wait.........he immediately comes straight back outside the favourite at the bell..........doesn't look like a smart move to me..............and exits before the back straight...........I can't even give him the benefit of a poor drive.....IMO he had a brain snap or was doing some work on the favourite...........Please tell me you agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The videos are consistent with the explanation tended by the driver to the stewards as per the stewards report of the race.
The stewards noted the driver's explanation and consistent with that acted against the horse relative to its performance and racing manners.
I will get back to you on this one!
Anyone care for a little game called ***NAME THAT PACER*** To play you will need to watch the replay of Penrith Race 6 held a little while ago this evening. The horse concerned is a little grey chap with No.4 saddle cloth and his driver has a lovely green and gold diagonal striped number on. For a moment I thought it might be Pure Steel. Anyone else care to take a stab?
i backed it. not quite sure what he was doing for the first 600 metres or so...
Thats my point Harvey and then the gelding has got the gall to somehow still figure in the finish. I mean seriously, how do you judge that drive from one of the better reinsmen? Not up to standard or just not giving his drive every opportunity?Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymo
i backed it because I was pretty certain it was the best horse in the race and could sit in the breeze and still win.
Certainly not a good drive...
Well, we will leave that one for the experts to adjudicate on. I can't wait to get their interpretation of what a poor drive is.
I meant the stewards, not the rabble on here. Thats a joke boys. I always value your opinions.
Nothing wrong with the the drive, I thought he did a good job after getting caught wide early he looked to get into the running line but couldn't and then let the horse make its way to the death without rushing it.
Can't argue with that Greg, he certainly didn't rush him. Like I said, am happy wait and see how the stewards see it.
They won't say a word and so they shouldn't........he sat outside the lead at Penrith 3 starts ago and ran 2nd.......he got caught wide early and there was no point going back at Penrith......so outside the lead we go......the winner has beenflying since resuming form a spell!Quote:
Originally Posted by broncobrad
Thats a compelling arguement Steve but I think he is entitled to be asked why he sat in no mans land for 250 yards before he even decided to go forward on a slow searching trip for another 300 yards. I was aware of his earlier runs and the bother he finds. Maybe Gav was trying to instil a bit of confidence in the horse, who knows. I'll wait for the report and don't worry, I wont expect any suprises. Got an early start in the morning pal, thats it for me tonight.
The drive on the fav in the 2nd was a doozy as well.
The horse that charged to the lead and then continued not to hand up did all the damage in this race when he tired and dropped back through the field. the driver got 6weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hando
Both drivers had in their heads to lead and over did thier tactics, at least R Adams relented at a point to give his horse some chance, if the pace backed off........but then the stayers took off and J Willick put it to the leader knowing his horse would keep plugging away, all fell into place for him, good drive, & so did Glebe Island.......the 2 real pluggers ran 1st & 2nd, a gap of 20 metres to the rest.......to give the driver of the leader 6 weeks is a bit harsh........maybe 2 weeks for overdoing his tactics! Except for the first 400, the rest of the sectionals were nothing inspiring, the best race he could have driven would have been to give up the lead at the 1200 to J Willick , he was trying to slow them down, knowing the early work he had done 1st Q of the mile in 32.8, before J Willick got up him........What if the G Mc on Glebe had not let Drummossie get aroung him at the 1000 metre mark, the placings I think, would have been reversed. Also, R Adams knew to get off the fence behind the leader, and was travelling well until C Pollicina knocked him down at the 500 getting off the fence when the leader fell back in his face!