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So basically what you are saying Triple is that administrators should just give up and not try to be innovative. I am not sure what rock you have been under but the product in the form that us diehard enthusiasts love is not getting the support of the punters to the extent required to preserve what we have let alone grow. Keep going down the current path by all means but you will be racing for ribbons in the not too distant futuRe.
G'day Ray,
mate I don't think anyone is saying that our administrators should just give up and go home, more that this particular "IDEA"? is NOT trying something different at all but a cheap and nasty copy of what someone else is doing. New ideas to market what we have/are is what we need for sure, but to change into something we are not in an effort gain short term attention??
My personal belief is that marketing strategy should be the games #1 priority, and anyone who knows anything on that subject will tell you "don't send mixed messages". I for one think this particular tripe was thought over a few too many beers and then refined throughout the subsequent hangover.
If you want people to believe in you and your product you DO NOT get wishy washy about what/who you are, the result if you do is a lack of trust in the eyes of the people your pitching to. I am not an expert on marketing but these are basics, pure basics and that is why cannot understand why this crappy, crappy proposal got as far as being aired, I am honestly completely bewildered!!!
Cheers,
Dan
If the turnover does improve on this race series how will they know if it was the greyhound colours, short breaks, short race distance or the extra publicity that caused the increase ? If they try to use the greyhound colours in all races they will have a war on their hands ! Is this what HRNSW really needs on the back of the crook stewards/drug scandal.
IMO the only good idea is the 20 min breaks between races .
[VVV] G'day Ray,Quote:
Originally Posted by Chariots
No, not at all. Far from it. Don't make the mistake of confusing a lack of enthusiasm for one or more of the ridiculous aspects of this idea with an across the board lack of desire for innovation. Also, be sure not to confuse actual innovation with that which is nothing more than an agreement to give a largely half arsed idea dreamt up by one or more of the shareholder beholding bozos at the TAB a spin.
Not all of this idea is bad, rather it's just that collectively it is.
A shortening of the gap between races is an EXCELLENT idea. I've long thought 1/2 an hour was too long. 20 mins is much better.
Horses wearing Large Numbered Colour Coded Saddle Cloths is also a good idea. I'd even go along with the Lycra skull cap covers of the same colour code etc. if that was thought to be a help BUT at the same time we MUST maintain the Owner's right to have his/her/their horse carry his/her/their colours.
The 1000m races, I think they're a bit of a wank myself but in saying that, they are no more no less of a wank than 2500m-2750m-3000m Standing Start events and we still have those rearing their ugly heads now & again.
No rock here mate...atop the odd soapbox now and again no doubt, but no rock.
[VVV] I can't work out how they think anyone would be able to do the form on these shorter races? One of the big knocks the TAB surveys apparently revealed was that Harness Racing Form was thought by the average punter to be too hard to read...so the question follows as to how knocking 3 & a bit furlongs off the race distance makes the task of the Punter to decipher said form any easier? They'd tell us anything...TAB boffins, full of bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutwagon
Haven't read all posts on this topic but many owners and sponsors want to see their colours go around. The other aspect to consider is the race caller who has already logged colours to drivers from previous calls and will have to strain his brain a little harder.
With the mad rush to get to the lead in these 1000m races lets hope they don't have as much trouble on the first bend as the dishlickers do !! They might need a fleet of ambulances standing by, not to mention the damage to the horses
Greg,
My brain is well and truly strained already...lol.......It is something new and novel and I guess lets just see what unfolds....I get all the concerns but at least it is something a little left of centre that MIGHT just make a difference and it has succeeded in creating some interest within and outside the confines of this forum....
Hey Fred, c'mon now, level with me here.
Seeing as how they're going to debase the whole thing by having a crack over 5 furlongs whilst wearing Dog colours...accordingly, are you going to roll with some of Ambrosoli's material and tout
http://www.debortoli.com.au/uploads/pics/Windy_Peak.jpg
...'The Windy Peak range' from De Bortoli's? :rolleyes:
Fred did many years at the dishlickers he will slide back in to no worries might even come with " the bunny to the boxes" just to remind you all it is one on those dog races.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V
Seriously though I am amazed how many negative comments this idea has raised, it is different it will create some interest in the sport on one of the quiet days and no doubt it will get publicity, all things good for the game.
Jaimie,
Have a great idea, instead of a mobile they could step from one of PA's Corinthian doors...I have procured his sponsors, Edroy Mowers and Chainsaws, De Costi Seafoods, Birdsville, where they only sell birds, Nick Scali of Ashfield...
See, at least it has us talking......
By The Way- HRNSW via their Facebook Page has announced the series will be known as the FLYING K
Should look into sponsorship from Special K cereal.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
Think Jaimies take on this will be 'he wont be giving a flying ...k what the series is called...unfortunately the idea DID grow wings and 'flew' before being clubbed to death. IMO, I am more than happy to see something different being offered to owners/trainers to consider. It is up to that section of participants to either support or reject the concept.
Nah, I would never be so coarse as to suggest such a thing Brad. :rolleyes:
If they're going to be so cutting edge innovative with their ideas as to go with Greyhound Colours and the associated numbering...then why not go all the way and name it 'The Go Wild Teddy' ?
http://www.australianracinggreyhound...y/gwt2munt.JPG
[VVV] The swishy looking bird in the ad. she wears a skimpy Red outfit...so that means she's the (1)...right?Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Flying K, and the K stands for kennels
Indeed. K as it happens also stands for the infinitely effective horse tranquiliser and popular dance club drug, Ketamine...which as it also happens is very likely going to be what I'll need a large dose of moments before those once proud steeds leave the gate and proceed to lose their dignity by way of 1 the Red, 2 the Stripes...and so on.
[VVV] Now THAT'S FUNNY Fred. Love your work. I had completely forgotten about PA's Corinthian doors, especially so the byfolds with which he was clearly enamoured......and who could forget the DeCosti's Seafood tip that was slapped on the side of a nearby Snapper, especially flown in from South Australia for the occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
Obviously Sky want shorter races so that they can play more adds !
Without trying to put Fred out of a job, they could do the complete cross over of both codes and actually INVITE Paul to call the series, with some fine tuning to some of the harness terminology. After all, he does a pretty good with those 30 second dog calls, imagine how many times he could call the whole field over a minute. Would you let him in the box Fred?Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V
[VVV] It's worse than that Ricky.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutwagon
The TAB/Sky are like an Obstetrician who would prefer to deliver babies without the Mothers being present.
If the TAB/Sky could conduct racing without the Horses and the Dogs, then they would jump at the chance.
The animals required as wagering mediums...along with the people who own, train, drive and ride them are, for them, a neccessary evil.
So far...
The Windy Peak
The Corinthian Byfold Doors
The Radar O'Rielly
The Black Shiraz
The Menangle Bale
The Graeme Bate
The Flying Kennel
The Bunny's In Motion
and by the leading contender by wide open lengths...
Harness Done Doggy Style.
I would dearly like to claim the last one as it works on a number of levels however it came as an SMS early this morning & courtesy of a mate of mine.
Hi Triple . I remember all twilight meetings were run with races 20 minutes apart . It certainly proved successfull in the Hunter and there was very little confusion once people got used to it and an official took charge and kept all the participants moving .Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V
G'day Mark,
You're right on the money.
The real absurdity however is that part of the proposal looks like a pushing of the Harness Racing Industry by the TAB to reduce the intervals between races...when in fact it is the TAB that are in sole control of those intervals. They schedule ALL the race times.
We should have 20 min. gaps across the board. I love Harness Racing and I still get bored shitless with the 1/2+ spans.
What we're going to get is the right thing, as in a shortening of the intervals, but for the wrong reasons...as in that being an integral part of the TAB's nothing short of disgraceful attempt at making Harness Racing into an Equine version of Dog Lotto.