Rocknroll Heaven is $12,000 over there and will be around $9,000 +gst
Rocknroll Hanover is now the dearest over there at $25,000 and Mightymo was on the mark so what i've been told $12,000-$13,000 +gst
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Rocknroll Heaven is $12,000 over there and will be around $9,000 +gst
Rocknroll Hanover is now the dearest over there at $25,000 and Mightymo was on the mark so what i've been told $12,000-$13,000 +gst
and no downward flexibility in the service fees of other stallions, too scared of a price war despite minimal menu costs
I do think he should be at least on equal terms with Art Major and Bettor's Delight, so it will be interesting to see if C-C and M3 stay the price they are now ?
Hello Mango,
You got me on that one. Stopped reading when I saw the videos and missed that last part.Bet of $ 100 still stands if you are up for it. I would happily pay as I hope its true.
I had 3 attempts with 1 mare to get in foal to Rock N Roll Hanover in NZ but mare did not get in foal.
I had 2 attempts with another mare to Rock N Roll Hanover in NZ again in the same year, and mare did not get in foal. As a last minute change of plans she was switched to Artsplace and the mare got in foal and I now have a yearling colt.
Read from another article that "The reason they raised the stud fee on Rocknroll Hanover to $25,000 in the US was to cut the book so they would have less to sell less on the market. That way they thought that they would get more money for them"
This is what leads me to believe that the stud fee will not be as low.
Hi Love Of Courage
I can't take your money, so lets just call it a bragging rights bet. I know a few people who have got there mare's in foal to Rocknroll Hanover not a problem and one of them being Changerr the dam of Changover she has a yearling filly by him and the mare has been served again by him. And yes less served more money at the sale's and thats why he will come down here because they are aware he could easily serve 300 in the southern hemisphere and they can clean up again.
Ive missed all this - how much is the bet?? :):)
Hey Mightymo
Love Of Courage was going to bet you that Rocknroll Hanover wouldn't come out and i said if you don't take the bet i would. Then i informed her to read the Perritti farm link under archives on harnesslink 14 feb.
being a betting person, i would be very happy to accommodate LOC :):)
It's all well & good that such a fine horse goes to Warwick Stud & I'm thrilled he is standing in Oz rather than NZ...however Luke's now verging upon legendary aversion to answering phones/returning calls is going to make it freaking difficult to secure a booking. You may well end up having to drive down there & front up in person. Even then he's probably no good thing to answer the doorbell. :p:p:p:p
Who is the better farm to deal with Warwick Stud or Pepper Tree?
Hi Fullerton,
Pepper Tree are better to deal with.IMO
Do Warwick Stud have anyone there that knows what they are doing?-re stallion management?
Thanks Just, well that also maybe considered when choosing between the two.
Can I take the 5th on that? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fullerton
Come on triplev123 no taking the 5th here.LoL
Cowards Castle:)
who is he married to that got him rock n roll hanover
If Warwick Farm are to be successfull in standing RNH they will need to make sure there management and there team are more than up to scratch. RNH could easily serve 300 in Aus/N.Z so there's going to be a lot of semen transport, bookings, general enquire's. At present they stand 3 stallions who would of got around 200 mare's between them so this will be a step up. I'm sure they've looked into all this before they wen't ahead with it, so i hope all works out good for them.
Peppertree Farm will be busy next year with there stallions as this past season they served a combined 470+ mare's and later this year with the arrival of Rocknroll heaven they could shoot to the 700 mark and with things looking healthier in n.s.w that could even be more.
Hi Buster
what do you mean by your last post.
Warwick stud is better to deal with.In all my dealings with luke at warwick stud it has been first class and he always anwsers his phone and if he doesnt he will ring back within 5 minutes. i am pretty sure he and his team know what they is doing. I have never had any trouble with them getting my mares in foal every year. Iam sure if you send your mares they will be looked after first class.
mango - as in how on earth did they go from having OSV, P47, and red river.....to the best stallion in the world
Hi Buster
The same way Pepper Tree did hard graft but in all seriousness some of the big studs would have to much on their plate to handle this horse or they would have to get rid of some stallions. I think the hardest part would be constantly answering the phone saying sorry we are fully booked and packing cooler boxes.
Would had though if anything the good stallions will head to NSW with the current speculation on the racing future
I have never dealt with PTF but have had nothing but positive experiences with Warwick and Luke. I have bought horses off them and had them serve my mares. I am extremely excited to see a horse of this calibre come to Australia and Victoria. I am only hoping I can get a discounted service fee for the slow horses they have sold me :)
Warwick Stud would be using GVEH?
The stallion will be in very capable hands if this is so.
L&G Ward set up a nice property, they should have good surroundings for stallions to live in.IMO
Hanover Shoe Farms, has the AU dollar finally won them over?
Why Hanover farms ?
First let me say I think this is a very informative thread. But here is what it sounds like most are saying let's just say the farms are equal,it seems that what it might come down to between RnR Heaven and RnR Hanover is what price they are set at. Do you agree?
Warwick Stud used to belong to the late Stan Walker. Graham & Lynne Ward's place was called Lynrose Stud.
Hi Fullerton
I think the price difference might only be $3k at most, where as there price difference over your way is $13k. There's a few different way's in looking at this RN Hanover has proven himself at stud already and is going great guns and my personal opinion is that RN Heaven was the better racehorse. RN hanover is a 15.3h horse and if i remember correctly Mr Bellino said RN Heaven is 15.3/4h so size difference will come into play. The good thing is they will be able to cover a whole different variety of mare's. So looking at that i can't pick so i intend on sending a mare to each of these stallions.
Thats a good way of doing it. Does anyone know if either of the RnR 's will give those discounts that were mentioned. Also how do they work? Thanks guys I am learning a bunch about your breeding industry.
Don't know how much discount will be on them, but some studs give you 10% for 2 mare's 15% for 3 mare's and 20% for 5 mare's. Peppertree only have a max of 15% and some horses like Art Major only have a max of 10% for 2 mare's or 10 mare's.
I wrote this crap below. Sorry, i will put it down to lack of sleep.
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Warwick Stud would be using GVEH?
The stallion will be in very capable hands if this is so.
L&G Ward set up a nice property, they should have good surroundings for stallions to live in.IMO
Hanover Shoe Farms, has the AU dollar finally won them over?
I still have both farms mixed up:(
P47 stood at Warwick stud?
Where is Lynrose stud located exactly?
Yep, P47 stood/stands at Warwick Stud along with other lunimaries such as Rustler Hanover & Red River Hanover. OSV stands there now too and he's been a reasonable success, certainly far & away the best of them there to date. Haven't been there in years but I went there when Stan had it, Warwick Stud was a beautiful place. Always remember the huge Poplar Trees & how well maintained the place was. The first time I ever went there Stan was wandering around the place catching chickens by way of grabbing their legs with a long piece of wire that he'd fashioned into a hook. A lovely fella. Wardy's place, Lynrose, was at Katunga. Went there a few times over the years. Graham's a really good bloke too. Always remember how well Wardy's mares & foals looked. They were all so well cared for & shiney, like a paddock full of toffee apples.
Is Rocknroll Heaven a sure thing to be standing at Peppertree farm ?
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Originally Posted by mango
and another point, is somebeachsomewhere the most over priced stallion in the world? and in so much it will badly effect his chances of making it as a stallion
There's a whisper that Alabar are waiting in the wing's just incase.
G'day Buster,
I doubt it very, very much. Somebeachsomewhere is priced right where he should be for one of the greatest racehorses, arguably the greatest racehorse, to have ever set foot on a race track. He was transgenerational. Given his incredible ability, plus the depth of both racing and producing quality to be found in the books of mares that he has covered in NA (x 2) and will again cover this NA season (his 3rd book I believe), if his initial crops to the track do not sweep all before them...then I promise you right here & now in front of all who read this list that I will drop my pants in the middle of Pitt Street Mall in Sydney at lunchtime on a Friday and sing "Hey Big Spender" by Shirley Bassey. If there is such a thing as a raging good thing as far as sires go, Somebeachsomewhere is a raging good thing.
Hi Triplev123
I do hope you never lose one of these bets as i'd have to take a drive to sydney to watch you drop your pants and sing now that would be funny lol.
Just for you Mango. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92luoiRJBVU
;)
I'd like to see you in that dress lol, if it ever happens you could be a youtube hit.
G'day Mango,
I reckon Shirley and G. Bennett were seperated at birth.
Just pause for a moment and imagine Greg with a black wig and a snazzy silver Lame' dress and ...whammy, you've got Shriley Bassey. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Hey Triplev123
I went back and read some of the posts and i read that you liked the way heaven raced better and went 49.2 in the jug and i agree that was a supper effort. Now knowing RN Hanover is already showing his wait in gold in the breeding barn and is 15.3h and RN Heaven will be a 1st season sire who is 15.3/4h and there will be a difference in there service fee. If you were breeding for the yearling sale's out of a young well bred mare who would you be sending her to and why.