He's certainly making a real fist of things! I'm not attempting to knock at all, just curious, what other sires are eligible for Ontario SS?
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He's certainly making a real fist of things! I'm not attempting to knock at all, just curious, what other sires are eligible for Ontario SS?
[QUOTE=mightymo;27423]Another 3 heats of the Ontario sires stakes today, this time for 2yo fillies. In heat 1, a Santanna Blue Chip filly wins with Shadow Plays running 2nd and 3rd. In heat 2, Shadow Plays ran 1st and 2nd with a Major in Art filly 3rd. In heat, 3 a Shadow Play filly called Book Babe was ultra impressive winning by 6 lengths.
I think im going to be sending quite a few mares to Shadow Play this year!!
I say that as I saw Somebeachsomewhere have a starter in the heats. Others stallions I saw were Artistic Fella, Santanna Blue Chip, Major in Art, Stonebridge Regal, Badlands Hanover, Jeremes Jet, Mach Three
...also Camluck, Mister Big, Dali & No Pan Intended.
Shadow Play's oldest foals are 2-year-olds in 2013.
Sire of 1 in 1:53, 5 in 1:55, 6 in 1:57, 9 in 1:59 including
ALIBI SEELSTER (f, Alias Seelster) p, 2, 1:53.3s -'13 ($43,000) 2 wins. Now 2, winner of Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
SHADOWBRIAND (g, Roman Art) p, 2, 1:54.4s -'13 ($37,960) 1 win. Now 2, winner of Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
BOOK BABE (f, Attack The Books) p, 2, 1:52.4s -'13 ($35,000) 1 win. Now 2, winner of Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
ARTHUR BLUE CHIP (c, Advantest) p, 2, 1:53.4s -'13 ($35,000) 1 win. Now 2, winner of Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
Performing Art (f, Artacam Hanover) p, ($21,500). Now 2 and race timed in p, 1:54.1s. Now 2, second in Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
YOSELIN SEELSTER (f, Yankee Athena) p, 2, 1:57.1f -'13 ($19,500) 1 win. Now 2, second in Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
NEFERTITI BLUECHIP (f, Rising Sun) p, 2, 1:56.1s -'13 ($16,400) 1 win. Now 2, third in Ontario Sires Stake Gold Leg leg at Mohawk.
REASONABLE FORCE (c, Jk Hello Dolly) p, 2, 1:54.4s -'13 ($7,500) 1 win. Now 2, winner of ONSS Grassroots div at Mohawk.
Settlemoir Hanover (c, Shades Of Art) p, ($3,500). Now 2 and race timed in p, 1:54.4s.
SILVERHILL SHADOW (c, Ruthie Jane) p, 2, 1:58.2h -'13 ($2,430) 1 win. Now 2, winner of IB - Callbeck S. leg at Summerside.
Twin B Shadow (c, Stryper) p, 2, Q2:00.3h -'13 ($1,800). Now 2, third in ONSS Grassroots div at Mohawk.
Shadoky (g, Kitty Hawk Killean) p, ($350). Now 2 and qualified in p, 2:04h.
Warrawee Phoebe (f, Just Warrawee) p, ($320). Now 2 and qualified in p, 1:58.2s.
Shadversary (c, Lady Luvs Diamonds) p, ($126). Now 2 and race timed in p, 2:03.4h.
Courageous C (c, Rain Maiden) p, 2, Q2:03h -'13 ($100) 1 win.
These pics are courtesy of Vicki Wright & were originally posted on my Facebook page.
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We Will See p,4,1:47.2 ($2,549,409), one of the fastest and richest sons of Western Hanover. His service has been set at A$3,950 including GST.
Nice type..who's his dam and what's her breeding
Aberdakara by Abercrombie.Lisa, of interest to you is that a couple of Shadow Play's young ones above, are from Artsplace mares.
G'day Lisa,
It's actually branch of Adios Betty's family through Tarport Martha. Same one that produced Dontgetinmyway, Historic, Magical Mike etc.
We Will See's dam is by Abecrombie, 2nd dam is Racing Date by Race Time, 3rd dam is Tarport Martha by O'Brien Hanover from Adios Betty.
Depends on where you want to cut it off but you could probably say that the bulk of the 'modern' Maternal family traces to/starts with Shy Ann.
The wider maternal family that spreads out from her has been responsible for a host of terrific racehorses including Beach Towel, Ready To Rumble, T K's Skipper, Topnotcher, Covert Action, Expensive Scooter and Bill Haughton's great filly Caressable.
In this part of the world the family has produced Nearea Franco, Northview Punter, the Cam Fella sire Exotic Earl and one time Australian Leading Sire, Atashy.
Oops, Sorry Lisa, I had the wrong maternal Family. Thanks Triple.
Thanks..will add him to my list of possible choices! Reasonably priced too
After looking at replays he appears to possess a wicked turn of foot. Very well gaited, free flowing action. Another champion free for aller gracing our shores as a sire.
Very interested to hear any comments on how the first crop of Sportswriter yearlings have broken in and are progressing
[VVV] Gday Harvey,Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymo
Saw a cracking Sportswriter colt at Riverstone last week.
Dave MacGill (sp?) has him, his wife was actually driving the horse in trackwork, Dave was driving another young one. Sportswriter colt was a ball tearer, a very good type & absolutely GREAT gaited. Worked well, very willing.
Shadow Plays early figures... 20 starters.. 16 winners..5 in 1.55 (2 from Artsplace mares)
I have broken in two Sportswriters at home, seen two where I work. Interestingly all fillies.Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymo
All four are excellent types, very athletic in appearance, and have a very attractive way of moving. One out at work has a stride length that is phenomenal. I have even told a few people that it may be an early call but I really like the Sportswriters and that he may be one of the better sires about.
Shadow Play got another ONSS 2yo filly winner yesterday @ Georgian Downs, Lady Shadow (from a Camluck mare) She won by 2 & a half in 1:56.3.
Leading Money Winning Sires - 2 Year Old Pace (2013)
03-jul-2013 StartersSire in 2013 Money==== ======== =====
SHADOW PLAY 23 $238,676
BETTORS DELIGHT 30 $167,193
AMERICAN IDEAL 18 $147,889
ART MAJOR 24 $140,102
SOMEBEACHSOMEWHERE 33 $118,696
MACH THREE 22 $71,610
WESTERN TERROR 25 $59,889
MISTER BIG 18 $58,481
IF I CAN DREAM 20 $50,316
ROCKNROLL HANOVER 23 $48,605
DUNESIDE PERCH 24 $46,553
ARTISTIC FELLA 20 $44,600
SANTANNA BLUE CHIP 9 $42,260
ART OFFICIAL 12 $33,102
MAJOR IN ART 14 $32,245
FOUR STARZZZ SHARK 12 $30,649
DALI 8 $30,165
WESTERN IDEAL 8 $29,850
SAND SHOOTER 18 $27,725
ALLAMERICAN NATIVE 12 $27,295
Dick Adios also did a good job from this family
Another feature winner tonight for artistic fella with kimba bay taking out the 100k westbred classic @ gp.
If I am not mistaken Lisa that's 3 x 2yo Group race winners from Artistic Fella's first crop of 80 foals. I think he is also due for another big race win tonight with Mindarie Priddy going in a heavy fav. Accordingly, old mate Viv appears to have ducked for cover...promised great pic of Auckland Reactor and all. Hmmmmmm. Inquiring minds want to know. Ground Control to Viv....come in Viv. :rolleyes:
Based in WA 3 weeks out of 4 at the moment and was at GP on Friday night. If you going to promote a sire by their performance in WA you are in a lot of trouble. The 2+3 yr olds that would be competitive in the eastern states that I have seen race here since the start of the year could be counted on one hand. And not one of them was WA bred. Alta Christano, Frith, Macha, Condrieu and John Of Arc are all 3yr olds who would be competitive anywhere. No 2yr old is close to the standard required to race in the age group classics in Sydney or Melbourne. The one horse Artistic Fella has from his first crop that is of the required standard gets beaten after a soft run in front last night. And in a 2:02 mr to boot.And Jamie I will post that photo for you. And I am still waiting for you to put your money up on how many mares AR will serve this year. Your on record as dying of shock if he served more than 20. I reckon 60+ in Aust to go with the 200+ in Nz. So show a bit of ticker and back your judgement. Amount of the bet is up to you.
Gday Viv. Refer posts on other topics re Saturday night. The track was a mess Saturday night so the 2:02 mile rate not a guide. Also that horse had a cloud over during week. Look at its other runs for a guide as to how good it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv Strangman
Aware it was slushy Paul, but the following races went in 1:57 and 1:56mrs so it cant have been that bad. A couple of her early races show real class but the two since she came back from a spell haven't been as good. No question she is a quality filly.
Hiya Viv. They both open company races though not 2yo fillies. At least one was over 1700 not 2200. Wasnt trying get in blue with you but we go melton every week and those conditions probably worst ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv Strangman
GiddayPaul, I can see from the video that conditions were off. As I see elsewhere on the site she hasn't been 100% and that run suggested something wasn't right.
Viv, as given...some would argue rather erroneously, as you are to potting Artistic Fella, it comes as somewhat of a surprise that you've not yet highlighted the disparity between the good efforts thus far of members of his AUS crop & the rather slow start his 1st crop in the Northern Hemisphere, current season CAN 2yos, have made.
I thought you'd have been all over that like ravenous seagull swooping upon and ferociously seizing an errantly dropped hot chip. Are you perhaps feeling a little poorly? :confused: A recent Flu Shot playing havoc with the old immune system? :(
Jamie, way to early to make any judgement about North American 2yr olds as I'm sure your aware. Have a look in early October and that will give better idea of this year's crop. Still waiting for you to man up and accept the challenge to have a wager on the number of mares AR will serve this year in Aust. We both can't be right so put your money where your mouth is.
http://www.alabar.com.au/tasks/sites..._H304_W583.jpg
Jamie this is AR a week after being retired from racing. Looks great in that photo but will be so much better again when he has fully let down in 12 months time.
Not on the same page, physically nor on the racetrack.
Need any more be said ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRAB0nkWNAE
...and just for good measure, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1blm8HWgo
Last but not least, courtesy of Jim Gillies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhoX-wwS-Dc
Glad you finally put up some of his races up. Was going to but I thought that would be a bit mean. In his ten straight in NJ I did struggle with the names of his opposition on raceday. The odd name I know but most are not exactly household names. When he did face the bigger names that year he lost as many as he won. When he did leave Nj as a 3yr old he lost his way to the winners circle completely. Four years on the track to earn his money and never set foot on a half mile track his whole career. And plenty of sires available that won more money in two seasons than he won in four. I was fortunate to be on course to see him run in the Breeders Crown as a 3yr old (Elim + final) and in my view he was very disappointing. Still if you want to breed to him, you go for it. Its all about judgement. Which brings us around to why you won't back yours with regards to how many mares AR would serve in Aust.I think you said you would be staggered if he covered 20 mares. Thats your judgement of where he sits in the marketplace. But you don't seem prepared to back your judgement. Self doubt is a terrible thing.
Another new sire to come down under this season after injury sees him retire
Betterthancheddar to stand at alabar
People's opinions on this fella ?
Hi Lisa, click on the USA icon, Betterthancheddar is mentioned in 1 of the Forums. Richard
Not a bad effort at all. Only 162 more than you thought he would get. The leading sire by number of mares bred. So much for having the finger on the pulse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V
Whoops. Another one to have his finger on the pulse of Australian breeders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtrain
Good luck to all 180odd of them. Look forward to running past them.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv Strangman
VVV-:confused: Apparently there are significantly more masochists in this Country than I thought there were. Between AUS and NZ the horse covered 392 mares at $3,000 a shot less discounts. Jesus wept. The upside of course is that, like Grant, I'm pleased that there'll be some 300 odd 2yos ours from the 2014/15 season foal crop that ours won't have to worry about come their 2016/17 season racetrack debuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv Strangman
Grant and Jaimie, aren't you worried that with the advent of the Flying K, by 2016/17 there could only be short dog racing distances. If this eventuates then I reckon the Auckland Reactors might just have a fighting chance.
...that the Horse served as many as he did is testimony to the efforts of the crew at Alabar to make it so.
When it comes to filling a debut sire's initial book/s they'll move Heaven and Earth to get it done. This is underlined once again by Betterthancheddar still serving 200+ between AUS and NZ despite not arriving and getting underway until late October. Btw.. THERE is a Horse that is going to make a splash.
VVV- Some of your best work there Breno. Got 2 with the one rock. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Notice all you knowledgeable gentlemen don't actually have a clue what you are talking about. In fact Jamie you said in one of your posts that you would be staggered if he served more than twenty. Only out by 162. I wondered if you had any knowledge of the breeding scene in Australia and now I know the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple V