All 3 Track Records broken at Ouyen today for distances 1654m, 2040m and 2809m of the Cup. Shayne Cramp 4 winners
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All 3 Track Records broken at Ouyen today for distances 1654m, 2040m and 2809m of the Cup. Shayne Cramp 4 winners
For A Reason took 1.6 seconds off the track record at Goulburn yesterday for the 2240m under a throttle hold.
Bushrod ran 1.55.9 to break the Hamilton 2160m Record on Wednesday and I think he is only a C3
I think the trotters broke the track record in trotters cup too.
Yep you are right Nathan, I have to admit to only following the pacers, it was a good day for you too - winning the last
Yeah thanks Kevin.
Our Walden Bury took nearly a full second off Mildura's 2190m Record tonight. Maastricht was only 1.4m away in 2nd so she would have smashed it too.
Winning the Cup, Christen Me equalled Mah Sish's record of last year
Maastricht equalled the Swan Hill 2240m record tonight rating 1.56.9
Ashburton 8/2
Not sure if there records but the speed was on today at Ashburton
Venus Serena 3yr old filly by Mach Three went 1:52.2
Follow The Stars 2yr old colt by Art Major went 1:53.8
Thanks Mango
I do not know about Ashburton but that time of
VENUS SERENA is a NZ RECORD for 3yo fillies (and the whole field ran 1.53.0 or better)
Follow The Stars time is 1 sec outside the NZ 2yo colts record but once again I do not know where to find individual track records for NZ
Venus Serena also holds the 2yr old fillies record
Sky Major holds the 2yr old colts record of 1:52.8 which was set in june last year at the Jewels which was at Ashburton.
The First 4 in Follow the Stars Sapling Stakes all by Art Major.
Follow The Stars was purchased from last years Melbourne A.P.G sale
Yes another of Lauriston Bloodstocks young ones purchased by M.Purdon for 20k.
Chilli Palmer got within 0.4sec of SU's track record at Melton last night - KNOCKING abt 6sec off his best mile rate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Orange today 2 track record's broken Laaganoosh ran the 1880 mts in 1.59.1.The record of 2.00.1 had stood since 2003 Marty Bee ran the 2240 mts in 1.58.4 please note Orange is a 714 metre track.
Venus Serena's time is a NZ and Australasian record.
Nike Franco ran 1.52.6 an Australian record last night at Menangle in the Raith memorial congrats Harvey ?
Kevin you go to HRNZ site and click on Racing then down the left hand side you will find records but all except mile races are given in race time not mile rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Thanks Greg, that is how I know Venus Serena's time was a record but I was hoping to find individual track records like we can by clicking on Clubs and Tracks under Racing on AHR's site
On her return from her bleed last year, now 3yo champion filly Mindarie Priddy BROKE THE SHEP 1690m TRACK RECORD tonight going 1.54.7 strolling in by about 25m!
She is a special filly, best 2yo filly I have seen (results didnt come for whatever reason). Hopefully she gets up for the NSW Oaks, that will be some race.Quote:
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She was still the top stakes winning 2yof last yr Brendan so the results were not too bad
If not for a Bill Trembath pearler and I think maybe sickness she would have had the Vicbred and Breeders Crown as well though and been undefeated, which is what I reckon she deserved given she was that good!Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Keayang Cullen's Inter heat win as you all probably know was a Melton 2240m Tk Rec knocking 0.2 off SU's time - fair pace set by Restrepo!
He might not of won but to run that time from pillar to post very impressive. Big Chance for the final if he gets the right run,
Venus Williams NZ Equalled the 1700m track record at Horsham today, 1.55.3
Thanks Rich. I think it sums up the speed explosion to think that lowly rated horses like Venus Williams and Znana hold Track Records ie that so many horses are capable of speed we never heard of not long ago.
Noticed David Manning still knows how to find a nugget in the NZgoldMine with Romes Burning strolling in in the first. The form analysis for that race mentioned that back in NZ his last win was over Macho Comacho who has been in Oz for 5 mths and 7 starts for 5 wins and 2 Country Cup placings. Admittedly RB beat as ordinary a field as you will ever find but it is amazing how these seemingly ordinary horses from NZ are sooooooooooo much better than our ordinary horses.
Interesting that! Up until today I would have backed her namesake over a mile!Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard prior
The Yarra Valley 1650 Track Record was just broken in a C0 ! United Legacy (first up for 7mths) ran 1.55.0 This speed explosion is getting ridiculous as the 2 placegetters, both maidens, would not have been far off the record.
United Legacy might prove to be another good one for the Soky's Number arm of the U30 family
Today's win was in the United Petroleum Pace (the Servo in my old home town) so he was a moral to win
That didn't last long! 1.54.5 in the 3yo.
United Legacy only held the YV 1650 track record for little over an hour as Outrageous El came out in Race 4 for 3yo's and took another .5 off it running 1.54.5 in winning his first ever race (2nd start since coming from NZ)
The track must be lightening fast as the first 4 would have all beaten the old track record
Seems to be catching! At Blayney last Sunday we witnessed The Wifes Calling run a staggering 1:57.6 rate over the 1640 trip. Interestingly, I think the overall time for the race, 1:59.9 was the old track record!
http://www.blayneychronicle.com.au/s...ictory/?cs=522
How good is that photo Phil - wish we could get replays that looked like that! Would seem to be a very pretty setting
Agree, the photo is a real good one. On the setting, doinmabest, aka Fred Hastings, remarked at last years COC meeting that it wouldn't be hard to imagine your somewhere in NZ! What a shame that the powers that be wanted to kill off tracks like these and now they only race twice a year! Anyone that has enjoyed a day at Blayney, Orange, Lithgow, Cowra, Forbes, Eugowra, Peak Hill, and the many other tracks like them must wonder how the authorities ever decided to do without them. Sorry about the rant :) It still annoys me that we have administrators that want to kill our industry at the grass roots level.
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Originally Posted by Messenger
[What a shame that the powers that be wanted to kill off tracks like these and now they only race twice a year! Anyone that has enjoyed a day at Blayney, Orange, Lithgow, Cowra, Forbes, Eugowra, Peak Hill, and the many other tracks like them must wonder how the authorities ever decided to do without them. Sorry about the rant :) It still annoys me that we have administrators that want to kill our industry at the grass roots level.[/QUOTE]
Hi Phil
I can't entirely agree with your rant. Country harness racing was cut back extensively during the 90's and very early 2000's but that was not the doing of the administrators we currently have nor the one's immediately preceding them. I think the current board of HRNSW has done quite a great deal to re-invigorate racing at the grass roots level. The Goulburn track came back into existence through this version of the board as have Blayney, Orange, Maitland and quite a few other country tracks. Yes, many of them may only race twice a year but that is 200%, as a minimum, on what they were racing.
I would agree at levelling blame to those boards that were responsible for the cut backs but not the current. Unfortunately the wording of your rant doesn't differentiate and it sounds, well at least to me, that you include the current board, which as I have stated, has done a great deal and continues to do so.
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark, I stand by my rant :) Rex Horne was there when they tried to shut us down and has now just shifted from NSWHRC to HRNSW! Sam Nati was there too. The current powers that be are still basically the ones that we had to fight tooth and nail to remain in existence. You say that we race 200% more than we used to, don't know how that one works. Blayney used to race at least six times a year, reduced to two, Orange probably had 12 or more meetings a year, now 3, Lithgow would have been in the 8-10 category, now zero. Forbes, Eugowra, and Peak Hill would be similar to Blayney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Croatto
To further illustrate the point, how about the intra code agreement, been told many times that NSWHRC consider it unfair and are doing their best to help the clubs disadvantaged by it. Well if both sides of an agreement agree to tear it up and start again, why can't it happen. NSWHRC want to be seen to be the generous party looking after everyone whilst maintaining the agreement that protects their allocation of funds.
Was recently in Ellis Street, Bankstown, an area that was extensively populated with horses in the 70's and 80's, most of them expect it and Bankstown to be gone in 2-3 years and I can assure you that many of them are not relocating to Menangle!
HRNSW is doing all they can to keep things going, but they too are hamstrung by the inequalities contained within the agreements that were put in place by power hungry brokers from NSWHRC many years ago, so in Reagan style, I say to Dumesny and his board, tear up that agreement and start again. Whilst ever you have to bow to an oppressor, it doesn't matter how much you tell the people that they have it good, they don't feel good about it.
Goulburn went for many years without racing and had to jump many hurdles to get back in the fold. Thankfully you guys did it, for now we have a great track to illustrate the potential that lies within country areas. The recently conducted meetings at Orange and Blayney illustrate that harness racing is alive in the country, with a little more assistance it could be healthy and strong which in turn makes Bathurst and consequently Menangle stronger as the bigger the base the better the product will be and consequently better horses will be turning up more often at Menangle. I am sure that Dubbo/Parkes/Forbes would feel the same.
The biggest killer in training horses these days is the cost of fuel. To load up a horse to travel 200 kms or more is nearly prohibitive. So having more racing close to home is the best possible answer to earning a few dollars with the ordinary horse and then hopefully getting a better one. You can only go out and try to get a better one so many times without any return at all on previous investments before your interest wanes.
Sorry about the extended rant, but this is something that irks me totally.
Goulburn went for many years without racing and had to jump many hurdles to get back in the fold. Thankfully you guys did it, for now we have a great track to illustrate the potential that lies within country areas. The recently conducted meetings at Orange and Blayney illustrate that harness racing is alive in the country, with a little more assistance it could be healthy and strong which in turn makes Bathurst and consequently Menangle stronger as the bigger the base the better the product will be and consequently better horses will be turning up more often at Menangle. I am sure that Dubbo/Parkes/Forbes would feel the same.
Obviously a commonsense comment,meaning that the powers that be will dismiss it out of hand.
As an aside,we are off to Goulburn Monday for our belated trip to the new track.Looking forward to it.
FAR for the inter and at the price I cannot not have something on TTL. It's a lottery.
Mark,I don't know how far you go back in this silly game, but MAITLAND used to race about 20 meetings a year, they now have 2, Cessnock similarly used to race about 20 meetings a year, they(we) now have zero, Newcastle used to race 50 mmeetings a year, they now have about 70. As Phil stated Blayney raced far more often as did Lithgow and many others, the key component of this was the local exposure.Quote:
Hi PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark Croatto
I can't entirely agree with your rant. Country harness racing was cut back extensively during the 90's and very early 2000's but that was not the doing of the administrators we currently have nor the one's immediately preceding them. I think the current board of HRNSW has done quite a great deal to re-invigorate racing at the grass roots level. The Goulburn track came back into existence through this version of the board as have Blayney, Orange, Maitland and quite a few other country tracks. Yes, many of them may only race twice a year but that is 200%, as a minimum, on what they were racing.
I would agree at levelling blame to those boards that were responsible for the cut backs but not the current. Unfortunately the wording of your rant doesn't differentiate and it sounds, well at least to me, that you include the current board, which as I have stated, has done a great deal and continues to do so.
Regards
Mark
The rationalisation of our game was orchestrated by a bunch of imposters, trying to make "change for the sake of change". their legacy is a vastly diminished participation rate in our game because the "rationalisation" was actually a numbingly simple version of centralisation, often quoted by very juniour accountants as a means to improve returns by %.
If you shrink a business virtually overnight, then hey presto, by reducing the size of the business and in the short term having a similar gross turnover, you look lilke a dead set genius, but what you have ACTUALLY done, long term is reduce exposure and subsequently long term growth.
The people who foisted this destructive stuff are nowhere to be seen these days, I wonder why??
It is true that current administators are seeking to turn around SOME of the damage, but a little slowly in my opinion, why?, because the damage done has been left for so long and the accumaltive effect of that makes recovery difficult given the $$$ now available.
On the money as usual Danno. Down in Vic we have cute tricks like St Arnaud 'at Melton'. We still have quite a spread of tracks so I will not complain too much but you are spot on about exposure. I was exposed to the excitement of the Showies (some would have to settle for MValley) and as much as I like Melton it is a long way from the city centre and we did to capture a whole new generation (I was once told that factoring in population, that Knox is roughly the centre of Melbourne)