BOOM.....McCarthy Positive.

VVV. You mean that he told me a lie???

Masking agents are used as i said in an earlier post a very successful trainer once said to a mate of mine Dont ask what im using as what im using to mask it.

If i put the trainers name on this site i would be banned.

Just wondering are you suggesting they dont exsist.

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Masking agents are used as i said in an earlier post a very successful trainer once said to a mate of mine Dont ask what im using as what im using to mask it.

If i put the trainers name on this site i would be banned.

Just wondering are you suggesting they dont exsist.

[VVV] They are...are they? Ok. Nobody's asking you to name the person. That has nothing to do with it.
Rather I'm asking that you substantiate that they are being used, first by naming one or more such substances that are able to be used in such a fashion and then by noting how it is/they are being used, what drug or drugs that it/they disguise the presence of & (chemically) how it/they achieve to achieve that.
I'm not suggesting that they do or do not exist. I'm not the one who made the statement.

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The other theory is masking agents

As you will see i didnt say they are being used i said the other theory is masking agents..

Google up masking agents for steriods and you will see they exist.

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VVV. You mean that he told me a lie???

[VVV] Perish the thought Andy, perish the thought.

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As you will see i didnt say they are being used i said the other theory is masking agents..

Google up masking agents for steriods and you will see they exist.

Found this intresting Brian.
Bicarb is also a masking agent.

Telegraph Sport understands that the closest high-profile parallel with Touré’s case is that of cricketer Shane Warne, who was banned for a year in 2003 after he tested for a banned diuretic that he said was contained in one of his grandmother’s diet pills.
In Warne’s case the diuretic was banned because it was a “masking agent” capable of covering the use of steroids. Despite arguing that he had taken the substance inadvertently, he was banned for 12 months.

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I think the fact the samples are tested a two different labs rules out contamination of the lab equipment. But it doesn't rule out contamination during the collection of the swab. What if the vet collecting the sample had used boldenone and the contaminants were on his hands??? It would explain two different trainers on the same night going positive.

Swabs have been contaminated by coffee before there was one last year.

How about the fact they don't usually test for Boldenone these days. Add the fact that L Mc and B Lew are very good mates, that would diminish the coincidence theory a bit. Were any other swabs taken that night? Why did they not return a positive?

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The other theory is masking agents

Name any masking agent. Masking agents are a myth.

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Name any masking agent. Masking agents are a myth.

Hi Tim . A large percentage of positive returns in athletics etc are firstly to masking agents such as dieretics , turtle jelly etc . They then look further . Most masking agents do such a good job they have been made illegal substances .

So, you're saying that it is a possibility to beat the Breathalyser? Take a diuretic or serving of turtle jelly and demand a blood test.