Could someone please ask the question!!!

Yes he did Brenno, the thread was locked by admin because the tone had turned decidedly nasty. Had a quick look at the thread concerned to refresh my memory (wasn't personally active on the forum at this stage myself) and there was a fair bit of unbridled agro from a bunch of posters who no longer post or have since been banned.

The thread was titled One of the worst things Ive seen on a harness racing track EVER!!!! and looking back at the race it just stunk.

His latest outburst just can't be ignored, brushed under the mat or paid lip service...look where D Nikolic is right now on exposed evidence and up until now Kevin still is training. Must be nearly out of Get out of Jail Free cards.

Moving on to another lead attack incident and to prove its not endemic to NSW, here is a classic from Redcliffe tonight, Race 6. The $1.90 fav tries to hold out from the pole while a $150/1 shot presses on for the lead which is just not up for grabs. Attacker eventually capitulates to finish 73m behind the winner, but the fav who attempts to resist its challenge in vain is gassed and finishes 31m behind the winner. Just a couple of questions...how long does the attacker W Waltisbuhl get for his actions? At what point does Whitaker accept some responsibility for his animal and stop resisting the challenge which is killing his horses chances? And how do these drives compare to Pizzutos?

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ld#REC19121210 for results and video replay.

Ive said it 15 times before and I'll say it again. Giving Waltibushl 4 weeks is completely pointless. The only way we will fix this situation is by giving them MONETARY fines.

I'll bet anything that this will fix things pretty quickly

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Originally Posted by Loz1502

No doubt could be endless questions asked every race meeting as to tactics of some drivers.
Where to does this drive of Royce Gregory-Jack rate?? Adjourned enquiry to check betting records.
http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=WW141212&rn=7

That was bad, EVERYBODY on course was looking around dumbfounded at the 1600, let alone by the 800m. In the marshalling yard for the next race I heard one driver ask Gregory-Jack "Where are you taking your holiday?". That was probably the only funny point, but it did set up a nice mile rate for Renayben! He has a great final 400-600m when he can get a sit and unleash. After his first victory at Wagga in about August I thought he would have had some more wins since then. Best of luck with Our Usain Bolt tonight, he went good in front at Wagga last start.

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Originally Posted by aussiebreno

That was bad, EVERYBODY on course was looking around dumbfounded at the 1600, let alone by the 800m. In the marshalling yard for the next race I heard one driver ask Gregory-Jack "Where are you taking your holiday?". That was probably the only funny point, but it did set up a nice mile rate for Renayben! He has a great final 400-600m when he can get a sit and unleash. After his first victory at Wagga in about August I thought he would have had some more wins since then. Best of luck with Our Usain Bolt tonight, he went good in front at Wagga last start.

Don't forget Renayben tonight if she can get a run up close with cover she will be hard to hold out.

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Originally Posted by Loz1502

4 weeks for Waltibushl, Whitaker doesn't rate a mention.
http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-r...fm?mc=RE191212

No doubt could be endless questions asked every race meeting as to tactics of some drivers.
Where to does this drive of Royce Gregory-Jack rate?? Adjourned enquiry to check betting records.
http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=WW141212&rn=7

Pretty sure your boy in question is chuckling all the way to the bank, has nothing but contempt for punters and knows he can run rings around the stewards out there judging on Cloudy Beach's latest display 22/12 at Albury, stepping up in distance, going around in a FFA, Change of Tactic placed saying the horse would be driven less aggressively from the second row. The horse gets a dream run from the start that allows it to gain the lead, isn't hunted up at any stage and gaps them on the top corner. MR a bit slower (3 secs) from it previous run. What a *@%!!ing joke. He tells the stewards he is going to do one thing, does the opposite and gets away with blue murder. My rant isn't about the COT rule...its how the stewards are not doing anything about blatant rorting. Horse gets hunted along previous start at 30/1 and drops dead. Same horse 4 weeks later at 4/1 strolls to the front, held together, gaps 'em. The wild wild west still exists, not in the USA but the good old South West Slopes and Riverina.

http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...sw#ALC22121207 result and vision
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...sw#ALC22121207 stewards report

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Originally Posted by Loz1502

Thanks Breno we were stoked with his run, was like an early Xmas present when we drew to lead. Will need a lot of luck tonight but as the saying goes "gotta be in it to win it".
Be interesting to see what comes of the Royce thing, wouldn't like to be putting a market up for the outcome. The ones you think look obvious get nothing and the not so bad ones get weeks.

You said it Loz...don't these blokes know how to use replay technology...Blind Tom can see what is going on out there, whats wrong with these clowns.

Its hardly picking races apart, its just the ones that stand out begging to be enquired into but nothing happens (or very little). The Parkes race is an almost carbon copy of a race that Trent Rue was involved in on 23 March at Bathurst. He drove the leader Happy Camper which resisted the relentless attack of Kenmore Star. He got six weeks for that, which I thought was a bit rough. Kenmore Star eventually broke in its attempt to challenge and John O'Shea got about 4 weeks I think. Exactly the same type of tactics employed, almost the same result for both horses and at Parkes the stewards do nothing. The charges laid against the drivers still astounded me because at Bathurst for mine, Trent had clearly signalled the lead was not available and got 6 weeks. Not a word at Parkes. Consistency is a word foreign to these stewards. Someone mentioned it earlier somewhere, the gene pool is indeed quite shallow in the stewards ranks at present.

No difference to me Brad and also nothing about cutting the inside runner off in same incident.
Have a look at race 1 at Dubbo on Boxing night 3 wide the journey and nothing.
And what seem's worse is at Parkes the head shirang was on duty for the night.

Like Greg pointed out Sanders was the Chairman at Parkes and also the Albury meeting...disappointing to say the least.

Just to clear something up Loz "stewards intend to interview driver R Gregory-Jack regarding the tactics he adopted given his notification of Change Of Tactics" does that mean we have not heard the end of it yet? If not, should that not read an inquiry has been opened into the tactics employed by R Gregory-Jack?