The time was fairly slow by their standards and he didn't show any of his normal fight when he was challenged, lets hope he just had an off day !
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The time was fairly slow by their standards and he didn't show any of his normal fight when he was challenged, lets hope he just had an off day !
Oops lost that one Rich. Have yet to jump BUT might have to stick with Kevs "odds on"
A virus would be most believable Dan for although they say he fought it out for 2nd - that is not the fight we know Lazarus possessesQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I hope he gets no longer term ill effects Kev, it looks like a lower grade virus and his slightly sub par performance would give you some confidence about that, however horses that TRY harder than most sometimes get hit harder than most by these things. I hope for the his sake the damage is in the minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
cheers,
Dan
Lazarus Race 9 Number 6. at Mohawk 2.15 pm Sydney time i think it works out we are 16 hrs ahead.
Thanks Greg
https://woodbine.com/mohawk/race/#!/WOH/9/2018-09-15
Just a regular race and I notice the WHOLE field is on Lasix now
Kevin, in that form guide is the weight the drivers weight in pounds ? A few of our drivers wouldn't be too keen on having their weight in the race book !
It would seem so Rick LOL. I have seen a few drivers who would be more than double Kerryn, Kate & co but there are those who tell you that weight does not matter
14 hours ahead of Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hando
You need to put your alarm on. As they say: Post-time 2:05AM Sunday morning here.
Could not help but notice 20 minutes between each race. They've got that one right.
Are you sure that’s right?? I think you’ll find it’s PM
Thanks Stephen it is 14 hrs and yes pm Richard
10.15 pm Saturday night in Toronto, Ontario, Canada will be:
12.15pm Sunday AEST (i.e NSW, Vic, Qld, Tas) .
10.15am Sunday AWST (i.e WA)
11.45am Sunday ACST (i.e SA and NT)
If Laz doesn't win this one by a sizeable margin he definitely is not well, IMO.
Totally agree Grinder
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Trainer claims on twitter that Laz is not on Lasix, so makes a mockery of the form guide.
Thanks Dave 10.15 am NZ time ?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinder
NZ are ahead of us GregQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hando
But doesn't that form guide suggest that it is a Saturday morning meet in Ontario - very strange
so 12.05pm (R9) Ontario would be 2.05am (Sunday) AEST
Kevin, Post time for the first race is 7.25PM their time, it is definitely evening racing. What might be happening is when you go to the Woodbine website it is recognizing your location and giving you the times for your own timezone thus the 12.05PM being shown. In any case TAB site will most likely be betting on them so times will show up on their site in the morning. Also on the program are eliminations for the Metro (2yo boys) Races 1 and 2 and the Shes A Great Lady (for 2yo girls) Races 6&8. The boys final a week later for $890,000 and the girls for $590,000. With Captain Treacherous and Sweet Lou currently top of the 2yo Sires earnings, and both represented in the eliminations, there will be much interest in where the $ end up going. Sportwriter also has one of the fancied filly entrants, already with $256K earnings and being 6 from 8 for the season, and there is a Mr Wiggles colt from the Christian Cullen mare Chausettes Blanche (family of Luxury Liner and Christopher Vance etc) also involved
Graeme you are no doubt right - those little 'cookies' are tracking me!
Thanks for the 'horses to follow' summary
The low 1.48 ths is as fast as he can go for a mile. Can't see him winning many more.
I don't understand why he was in that race, he had nothing to gain value and reputation wise. Just wiped a huge chunk off his value imo.
I believe he was there Rick because Jimmy Takter believes he will benefit from more exposure to the American style of racing. If he comes out and goes 1:46 at the red mile and/or triumphs in the Breeders Crown at Pocono then no doubt this race will be forgotten. If he doesn't then yes the U.S. experiment will have failed but none of us should forget what he was capable of and achieved downunder
Rick, Kev, Laz and a couple of others not on Lasix in this version of the field
9 -- Pace, purse $34,000 (EX, P3, SU, TR)
PREFERRED.
Post time: 10:15 P.M. Lasix: 06:00 P.M. Horses Entered: 9
1 Te Kawau N(L) J Jamieson A Montini 10-1
2 Rockin In Heaven J Harris T Symes 8-1
3 Continual Hanover(L) B Mcclure J Gillis 10-1
4 Humboldt(L) D Mcnair B Wallace 15-1
5 Nirvana Seelster(L) Trev Henry W Budd 5-1
6 American Wiggle L Roy R Moreau 6-1
7 Lazarus N Y Gingras J Takter 3-5
8 Major Hill(L) J Drury C Auciello 20-1
9 Fine Diamond(L) S Filion R Moreau 20-1
Mick Guerin's take on the 2nd
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...-jimmy-takter/
Lazarus is in R11 No 6 at 11.50 am Saturday morning
Thanks for that info Greg. I don't think he will start fav this time.
Strange that they list the horses that are on lasix if it is not performance enhancing !
He does seem to go better when leading and they seem willing to let him lead. Nice win .
Can you see him winning a few more now Rick?
He wasn't used out the gate the previous start and settled 4th, and paced a53.2 second half and couldn't pick up a leade who went 54.1 and 54. It wasn't s bad run but a conservative one after the virus effected run.
Used off the gate and controlled the race and back to winning, just. Being able to lead and control the race is a big thing in many of these U.S. Stakes races. Whether he can go faster then 1:48 remains to be seen. They may try for a super quick time in Lexington or just be content to try and win there and at the breeders crown.
Where do I find it men, Hoosier Park Results haven't even got Friday listed yet
http://www.hoosierpark.com/racing/ra...ation/results/
Hmmm, sexist much.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
U.S. ENTRIES AND RESULTS
updated Sat 9/22 0:33 AM
Hoosier Park - IN • 9/21/18 • Race 11 • Post Time 9:53
RACE 11 - Hoosier Park - IN - September 21, 2018
Conditions: **THE HOOSIER PARK PACING DERBY** Free For All (noon raceday detention PADDOCK)
Gait: Pace Purse: $177,000 Class: HP Pac Der Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 72-0 Off Time: 9:53 PM
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
6 Lazarus N 6 1°/1H 1/1H 1/1T 1/2 1/NK 1:48.4 25.4 *1.20 Yannick Gingras Jimmy Takter
3 Mcwicked 3 5/7 5°/5Q 5°/3T 4/3Q 2/NK 1:48.4 25.0 2.20 David Miller Casie Coleman
4 Donttellmeagain 4 6/8H 7°/7 6°/5T 5/4H 3/H 1:48.4 24.3 10.50 Tim Tetrick Jim King Jr
1 Split The House 1 3/3Q 4/3T 4/3T 6/4H 4/2 1:49.1 25.2 2.60 Scott Zeron Chris Oakes
2 Western Fame 2 4/5 3°/3H 2°/1T 2/2 5/3 1:49.2 26.0 36.00 Andrew McCarthy Jimmy Takter
5 Filibuster Hanover 5 2/1H 2/1H 3/2 3/3 6/3 1:49.2 26.0 22.10 Ronnie Wrenn Jr. Ron Burke
8 Dealt A Winner 8 8/12Q 6/6T 7/6 7/6 7/4H 1:49.3 25.2 106.30 Andy Miller Mark Silva
7 Beckhams Z Tam 7 7/10T 8/8T 8/8 8/7T 8/6Q 1:50.0 25.2 99.30 Ricky Macomber Jr Jamie Macomber
9 All Bets Off 9 9/14 9/10Q 9/9T 9/9Q 9/7Q 1:50.1 25.1 46.20 Matt Kakaley Ron Burke
Time: 26.0 55.0 (29.0) 1:23.0 (28.0) 1:48.4 (25.4)
Lazarus has the 6th fastest mile in the US this year in his Q run at 1.48.3 pretty good considering all the travel,climatising etc.
I knew you would say that LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Dot
I had started to write my post after Rick's post and thought I had better look a bit harder myself and then by the time I posted I noticed you had posted in between time
He may win another one Dot, the current batch of horses over there don't seem to be able to break 1.48 so he has a chance. On a side note the racing is very boring over there, often just single file with hardly any moves .
Kim French reports from the USA
http://www.harnesslink.com/USA/For-R...k-Pacing-Derby
Possibly a hick up in plans for Lazarus to race every week, as a supplemental entry he has been made first emergency for the Dayton Derby as sufficient horses made the prerequisite stakes payments to fill the field.
ALLERAGE FARM OPEN at The Red Mile
PP Horse Med 2018 North America YTD Driver Trainer ML Base
Sts W P S Time Earnings Stable Odds Claim
1 Mcwicked L 14 7 3 2 1:48.3F $964364 Brian Sears Casie Coleman 5-2
2 All Bets Off L 16 2 0 2 1:48.0M $135703 Scott Zeron Ron Burke 10-1
3 Rockin Ron L 21 5 5 3 1:50.1H $482155 Corey Callahan Ron Burke 20-1
4 Heaven Rocks A
FOR: 4 1-1-1 $93163 L 6 2 2 0 1:49.3F $82211(i) David Miller Ross Croghan 12-1
5 Lazarus N
FOR: 5 2-1-1 $289613 4 2 2 0 Q1:48.3M $355495(i) Yannick Gingras Jimmy Takter 2-1
6 Filibuster Hanover L 14 5 2 3 1:48.3F $467911 Matt Kakaley Ron Burke 15-1
7 Dr J Hanover L 17 5 2 2 1:49.4S $185786 Douglas Mcnair Tony Alagna 20-1
8 Split The House L 11 2 2 3 1:49.0F $321006 Andrew McCarthy Chris Oakes 12-1
9 Western Fame 21 5 3 2 1:48.4F $259252 Brett Miller Jimmy Takter 15-1
10 Donttellmeagain 13 5 4 1 1:47.2M $368851 Tim Tetrick Jim King Jr 4-1
Are those seasons winnings or US winnings do you think?
They are seasons. Mcwicked, All Bets Off and Laz at least are lifetime multi millionaires.