And I notice no mention of betting fluctuations. Perhaps the stewards assume that an empty betting ring means there was no betting activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutwagon
Ever heard of Betfair? Check the activity on the race there.
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And I notice no mention of betting fluctuations. Perhaps the stewards assume that an empty betting ring means there was no betting activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutwagon
Ever heard of Betfair? Check the activity on the race there.
From R1 at Melton last night, looking at the expression on the face of Tayla French mid race - driver of leader Form Analyst, one might believe she is thinking that John Justice in the death is softening her up for brother Lance on her back
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#MXM10102011
Then in R3 was it really 'magic' by Greg Sugars to get Abouttime off the fence or had he already discussed with Anthony Butt whether Manthadee wanted the fence. Why else would Butt be easing then. I would love to see the side on of when he comes out as at the post they were still level and it would have constituted dangerous driving if you didn't know the other horse was easing for the fence
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#MXM10102005
John Nicholson gets a QDT for deciding he is going to lead on the favourite as opposed to letting the 2nd fav have it? Really
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#KIC14102007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Had gone back last couple of starts, today leads from wide.
If COT still exists that is fair enough (I thought they had done away with COT)
Not specific to this horse but just because you don't have to tell stewards about a change in tactics doesn't mean crooked shit goes unchecked. A horse thats gone back repeatedly and gets plunged and then leads is QDT for sure. Likewise a horse that usually goes forward that goes back and runs dead is a QDT for sure. Not having to tell stewards beforehand doesn't mean dodgy tactics go unchecked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
I can see that a scenario such as you describe "A horse thats gone back repeatedly and gets plunged and then leads" may be grounds for a retrospective inquiry into its previous starts (although the answer may often be - we didn't think it could get the lead that race)
I'm just not sure you can QDT, query the driving tactic of getting the lead and winning - clearly good successful tactics. I would probably go for QIP before QDT
What about the QIP for Image of Starzzz winning R4 at Terang tonight
He led and rated 1.58.6 to win
At his previous start he only got beaten 6m when the winner went 1.53.9
It is not his fault that he started $50 because the race included one top line 2yo who was having his 2nd start back after 15mths off and one heavily supported runner next to him who began badly
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#TEC14102001
Horse going back from gate 4 flying home 3 and 4 wide in 1.58 was same performance as next start when it leads from 4 and wins in 1.57. Its the drive that is different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
In R5 Melton tonight, why did Scott Ewen let Kate Gath on the eq fav Out To Play, off the fence, he clearly looks at her before letting her out
He paid for it too as I reckon Bulletproof Boy could have gone close from the 1x1
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...20#MXM17102001
Some are reporting that this may not be the only case under investigation re EPO
NSW - Trainer Stood Down - Mr Malcolm Locke
https://www.harness.org.au/media-roo...?news_id=45358
I believe the are more than a couple of dozen B samples that are no longer gathering dust and are ready to serve active duty. Watch this space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Brett Day is back as Chairman of Stewards at HRV
He left late August for a position with Greyhounds NSW in part to be closer to family
But is now back due to specialist medical treatment a family member can only receive in Melbourne
Mr Locke appears on this TCO2 list tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
I am thinking that some old samples must be getting retested as only 2 on the list are recent
http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=45478
Noticed on the Integrity Matters part of TheTrots.com that former Head Steward Bterr Day is returning from NSW and retired veteran Barry Delaney will work part time.
Yes, I put a little detail to the Day story in Post 93
All states need something clear cut like they have in Tassie
https://dpipwe.tas.gov.au/racing/ste...ries-decisions
HRNSW Integrity staff and contracted security conducted security measures at the registered Stable address of Mr Craig Cross;
Ø Thursday 8th October 2020, Friday 9th October 2020 & Saturday 10th October 2020.
Ø Thursday 15th October 2020, Friday 16th October 2020 & Saturday 17th October 2020.
Ø Thursday 22nd October 2020, Friday 23rd October 2020 & Saturday 24th October 2020.
Ø Thursday 29th October 2020, Friday 30th October 2020 & Saturday 31st October 2020.
http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=45634
This would appear to be pretty concentrated attention
Refer to post #91 and I reckon you will find the stewards' newly found enthusiasm.
http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=46037
Oh Mr Jack and the girlfriend
Mr Jack wore it last time for the couple but I can't see Amanda Turnbull getting away unscathed from this one - would seem to show little respect for the industry
Mr Loch now in control in SA
Apparently several buckets of iced water thrown at HRSA officials alerted them to this widely known fact. Perhaps a well directed melting iceberg aimed at Victorian officials might get them to check out the Victorian stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
As an aside, I would like to know why it is so hard to find the link to this story on harness.org.au ?
If I had not been sent it by a poster I would never have found it
I make a habit of looking at HRA's News tab and clicking on Top Stories and Stewards (Wrap) but you won't find it under either of those ??!!
Without being given the link, the only way I can find it is to go to News Archive but make sure you choose All for the category or Stewards Wrap
Unbelievable that an Archive search of Stewards Wrap will find it but you will not find it by going directly to Stewards Wrap !
Move along, nothing to see here! The HRA motto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Interesting to note Amanda trained and drove a treble at Parkes yesterday. Love to see her "organisation structure", is who is working and feeding what and when, for Victorian and NSW based horses. We know who the SA "foreman" is. Amanda is playing us all for mugs.
Sometimes it would be good to have some overhead drone video eg R6 at Melton tonight - it would be interesting to see what caused Jamieson Steele to lock wheels in the home straight
(I am not sure what is happening with the Results page on HRV tonight - R1 has finally gone up and it is the only one so far)
A couple of posters have pointed out to me that the stewards have been very busy on Tuesdays of late
Before the Vicbred Semis at Melton on the 22nd and before the Silver Consolations at Bendigo on the 29th the stewards have been doing PMS's = Pre Meeting Swabs
First of all they did the Ballarat region for the semis and then the Bendigo/Kilmore region for the Silvers
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=MX221220
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=BN291220
It is a bit hard to find Stewards Reports in Vic nowadays
They're somewhat hidden
You have to go to Integrity Matters at the bottom of the Vic homepage
and then you have to go to the bottom of Integrity Matters
Waiting to see if an ADJ INQ goes up for Anthony Butt/Alpine Stride in the Stewards Comments column (if they go up tonight!)
(Mister Wickham deserved better)
It is there
PRS GS 3WE UCL OLM 2 TIRE QDT VXAR SCOPE INQADJ
They would suspend a junior driver in a heartbeat, I think it should be worse for a leading driver but I am betting he gets off
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...21#MXM30012101
Anthony Butt gets 4 weeks but it does not start until midnight Saturday
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...l/?mc=MX300121
Some of it:
(3) As a result of the tactics he adopted it contributed to the race being run at a speed up until the 1200m which was 7.06 seconds faster than the five-year average for races conducted at this track and contributed to Alpine Stride being placed under pressure approaching the 800m and tiring badly to finish in last placing beaten 141.7m.
Mr Butt pleaded not guilty to the charge as issued and requested an adjournment to allow him to present further evidence. Stewards granted the adjournment and ordered that the inquiry reconvene at 1.00 pm on Monday, 1 February 2021.
At the reconvening of the inquiry, Mr Butt produced a report from stable veterinarian Dr Virginia Brosnan advising that Alpine Stride was found to be displaying colitis on 31 January 2021 and 1 February 2021. Evidence was taken from HRV Veterinary Consultant Dr Richard Cust who advised when examined post-race Alpine Stride was not displaying any signs of colitis or any related condition.
Dr Richard Cust 1 v Dr Virginia Brosnan 0
https://integrity.thetrots.com.au/ne...tammy-gibbons/
Some will never believe the rules apply to them
Fifty lashes with a wet Maccas' lettuce leaf. An absolute joke and Russell Jack got off very light. Can't recall any reports of the raid at the time. If not, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Never mind, this is just the prelude to the SA shenanigans is yet to play out. Would N Jack be dumb enough to run the "I didn't know" defence? Perhaps then blunt-brained SA stewards would fall for that.
Whatever, the trots has zero credibility when it talks integrity while these grubs continue to thumb their noses at authority.
Graham Loch has been acting SA Chairman of Stewards for a while now, so I think they are pretty 'sharp'
They are not mucking around in America (this all stems from a couple of years back when the FBI got involved)
A racehorse dope dealer who pleaded guilty to running a years-long performance-enhancing drug distribution outfit was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison Tuesday.
Scott Robinson, 48, of Tampa, Florida, will also have to turn over more than $3 million and face three years of supervised release as part of his punishment for the distribution ring, the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York said
https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/raceho...ths-in-prison/
And this is from The Meadowlands Media Relations Department
Management at The Meadowlands has become aware that Rene Allard is training a stable of horses in South Florida. As a result, The Meadowlands, Tioga Downs and Vernon Downs will exclude any horse being trained or that has been trained in that stable in any stake and is actively investigating who owns the horses that are or have been in his stable this winter.
Those owners who currently have or have had horses in Allard’s stable this winter are advised that all horses owned wholly or in part by them will be excluded from participation in all the races at The Meadowlands, Tioga Downs and Vernon Downs and that all of horses owned wholly or in part by them will be deemed ineligible to for any/all administered stakes races at The Meadowlands, Tioga Downs and Vernon Downs for a minimum of three years.
If owners affected by the above are a minority partner on horses with owners that are not affected by the above and are being trained by accepted trainers, they must legitimately divest their interest in those horses, which will be required and demonstrated to the satisfaction of The Meadowlands before the March 15 stakes payments will be accepted on those horses.
The affected owners should notify their partners on the horses that fall into the above category immediately.
“This news is particularly disturbing after the indictments of March and a later superseding charge in December of last year,” said Jeff Gural, president of The Meadowlands. “We, along with the Jockey Club, spent much time and money employing the Five Stones investigators to prepare a case to get the Feds interested which led to all of those indictments. We will continue to partner with the Jockey Club to fund the continuing investigation by Five Stones. We could use support in this initiative and welcome anyone who would like to aid in the funding of this necessary and important endeavor.
“To learn that people actually give this guy horses to train after what was discovered by the Federal investigation boggles the mind. The only reason to do this, that I do this, is to clean up racing so we might have a future and to protect the guys that do try to follow the rules.
“Horsemen seem to have this absurd unspoken bond that they protect each other. Well let me be perfectly clear, trainers that break the rules and use Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) are stealing from you, not me. They are beating your horse with a PED enhanced horse then, they are buying or claiming your horse and them beating you with your own horse. I just don’t get it.”
The beauty of privately owned tracks being able to say - we don't want your horses
Imagine if Jeff Gural owned Mildura
I will be interested to see what the protest was against Bulleys Delight, the winner of the Tasmania Cup
Was it the stewards for Rhys Nicholson's dropped foot or his whip action - he deserved to lose it
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...21#EHM13032110
I don't know how many weeks Rhys Nicholson was suspended for but, from my half-century's experience, it won't have been enough.
Took out the favourite at the start when his horse appeared to be steered into it at a 45 degree angle. Then, with the leader mysteriously drifting up the track, he swept towards the lead wildly throwing his reigns at the horse and pole-axed Triple Eight in the process. He clearly did not have control of his horse. From there, he appears to have made a complete mockery of the whip rules, throwing the kitchen sink at the horse to the finish. Once in the straight he dropped his right leg from the cart and appears to make contact with the horse's right rear leg several times. In other words, he was kicking it.
Aware he was low on gas, he then allowed his horse to run at least four cart widths up the track taking the second and third placed horses with him. You can clearly see this in the head on replay on the Tas racing website.
The race caller, Blind Freddy, seems oblivious to all of this which just adds to the farce. Whoever the stewards were in charge last night may have been patting their guide dogs while the race was being run.
Their needs to be an independent inquiry into all aspects of this race. Talk is cheap and all the talk is about integrity. Anybody who disagrees that this disgraceful exhibition is not detrimental to the image of the sport - or what is left of it - needs to pull out a dictionary and look up the meaning of integrity.
Rhys Nicholson deserves a very heavy suspension for the multiple instances of interference and other blatant rule breaches he committed. Unfortunately, I doubt he will get it. Well done son, you've just won Tasmania's premier race by using whatever tactics necessary. Here's your trophy, go and celebrate.
It didn't take long. Tasmanian stewards this afternoon announced it will be conducting an inquiry into race 7 (the Tasmanian Cup) to consider invoking rule AHHR 174(1) with the connections of Bullys Delight, the winner, to attend.
This rule relates to Disqualification and Horse Related Matters. I cannot recall this rule being invoked before, certainly not for a race as high profile as this one.
I'll cut the Tas stewards some slack here because it would have been impossible to dig out and invoke this rule in between races last night. It does signify they mean business and I cannot see how Bullys Delight keeps the race given what I outlined in the previous thread. And Rhys Nicholson might be seeking a new vocation.
See punters.com.au/news for a more in depth story, Chief Steward Steven Shinn is heavily quoted and explains the decision.
The Stewards Report
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/ste...l/?mc=EH130321
Additionally, although Stewards were able to confirm that Mr Nicholson had indeed ‘hocked’ BULLYS DELIGHT numerous times in the home straight as well as utilising his whip on numerous occasions outside the requirement of the rules, Stewards could not be comfortably satisfied that had this not occurred the placings would have changed. At a subsequent inquiry, Mr Nicholson pleaded guilty to a charge issued under the provisions of AHRR168(1)(e) – improper driving, in that in the home straight on the final occasion, Mr Nicholson dropped his right foot from the sulky stirrup and deliberately made contact with the hind leg of BULLYS DELIGHT (hocking) on numerous occasions. Stewards fined Mr Nicholson $2000 and in addition suspended his driver’s licence for a period to commence midnight 13th of March 2021 and expire midnight 20 March 2021. Additionally, Mr Nicholson pleaded guilty to a charge issued under AHRR156(2)(a), in that in the home straight on the final occasion, he utilised his whip with more than a wrist only flicking motion whilst engaging force from his elbow and shoulder as well as failing to maintain a rein in each hand. Mr Nicholson was fined $1000 and his driver’s licence was suspended for a period to commence midnight the 28th of March 2021 and expire midnight the 25th of April 2021 these suspensions being cumulative. In determining penalty, Stewards took into account the infractions occurred in the LADBROKES TASMANIA CUP as well as Mr Nicholson’s blatant disregard for the rules in both instances. All parties were informed at the conclusion of the protest hearing that Stewards would be conducting an inquiry into whether AHRR174(1) should be invoked.
If this appeal had been heard last week, it might have saved a bit of embarrassment
https://integrity.thetrots.com.au/ne...hys-nicholson/
The VRT imposed a 4-month suspension of Mr Nicholson’s drivers licence
The karma bus has many wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger