Where is Bently why has'nt he faced the music yet...... or has he disappeared ????
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Where is Bently why has'nt he faced the music yet...... or has he disappeared ????
Bently is either innocent or very smart.....or a combination of the two?
None of the above Chris
I think he's in Macau. Herd he was sharing a unit with his old boss.
Why have the police not charged him when they got otoole?
O toole told them everything. Bentley said nothing like all lawyers do and I don't think they have much on him.
This rumor has been doing the rounds since the arrests started on Thursday, I very much doubt the validity of this one, neither Bentley or O'Toole were very close to their old boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiny
In fact many in the industry will tell you they were doing their best to undermine him perhaps they wanted him out of the way.
Nice to have civil exchanges of opinion and views instead of gratuitous garbage abuse.Thanks.
P.S. Interesting to see if we have a new poster with similar contempt for others' opinions any time soon.
Ron, if we are both thinking of the same nasty person , he has been banned by Admin from posting further in this thread. Good riddance !Quote:
Originally Posted by 2minuteman
i have heard on the rumour mill that paul o'toole has a sick family member and he needed fast cash for on going medical treatment, i hope that not be the case because if its true its a very ordinary way to raise money, the harness racing family are a generous bunch it would be a much better way to fund medical treatment then ripping every one off.......
There quite often is a sob story or some bad childhood upbringing etc. Grubs like this in the 'hot seat' will exagerate anything to earn sympathy votes. There are thousands of badly sick people in our community but their relatives don't go out robbing others to fund treatment etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkie
ADHD or Bipolar probably isn't that the in thing ha ha
Bentley is helping strikeforce with there investigations. Hope that answers your q's.
[QUOTE]Thanks Luigi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi13
nice to hear there's some co-operation going on!!!!!ha ha
I hear he is somewhere in Asia working as a bloodstock agent. Hope that helps!
On a related note, I expect the turnover at Rivo Pizza is set to drop away considerably in the near future as no doubt will the Bar takings at the Bowling Club. 'knock knock knock..... :rolleyes:
So what will tomorrow bring???
If tomorrow is just Monday, then who knows. If tomorrow is meaning 'in the near future' then I expect it'll be more people getting carted away by the Strike Force. When the arrests began to happen for me it was a weird feeling, a combination of relief tinged with both elation and nausea.
I just hope the Strike Force absolutely smashes all those who've played a part and of those that for whatever reason they can't proceed against that the Regulatory arm of HRNSW steps up and duly smashes the rest of them....and then we can get on with it.
Come January 1st the prizemoney at Menangle's going to boot through the roof...and it's going to be the greatest show on earth and that's what I want to focus on. Not all this God awful crap.
Steady up only one person within 20 ks of Menangle has been implicated , but your supposed occupation could make you a suspect
There will be a few that start squealing like stuck pigs to hopefully avoid having their ring a ding dings expanded to the size of dinner plates in the Big House. At the least, it will cost these paaaalenty in Legal Defence bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi13
Has anyone else heard the rumour that the brother of one prominent trainer will be taking a fall so that he can remain in the game? When the truth comes out, it will be difficult to take the blame.
Interesting
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/...-1226207414880
2011 Walkley Awards for Excellence in Journalism Winners
Best Sports Journalism
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3300470.htm
Took the time to watch this again, can anyone tell me the driver who flashes across the screen in the first footage of actual harness racing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Starship Captain
May be wrong, but it struck me as prophetic if it is who I think it is...........
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Originally Posted by Daryl New
[VVV] Geeze, don't be such a bloody drama queen Daryl.
That comment of mine [Come January 1st the prizemoney at Menangle's going to boot through the roof...and it's going to be the greatest show on earth and that's what I want to focus on. Not all this God awful crap.] was quite clearly meant in the context of Menangle's soon to be prizemoney increases being the one shining light, the beacon of hope on the horizon upon which to focus , & not as you've taken it to mean there was any involvement by the locals. Fair dinkum.
Quite a few of one particular trainers horses are changing hands for some reason.......
He has been named..........
Not nominating any either..?????
Just a matter of time til he gets a knock on the door.
Has the "innocent" brother been arrested already???Quote:
Originally Posted by PD13
rumor has it the Sarina's are involved why?
If you go back and read a previous thread I posted on here you will read a story about Greg Sarina training 12 winners of the 38 races that Paul O'toole has been charged over
Not that I'm aware of but I haven't listened to any radio or TV today. The bro in question has a 5 letter surname.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel
Harness Racing NSW is starting to turn the corner.Forget those who say the industry will never recover.Its the beginning of a great era.The industry needed to weed out the parasites and vermin in order to progress.May the innocent be set free and the guilty be given life bans!
Things just got a lot clearer
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226208522129
As previously stated..........The Big Guns are still out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thevoiceofreason
37 races listed seem to be O'Tooles info
If you scroll through these 37 a pattern appears.
Apart from the ones already arrested its easy to work out the big players.....
One particular driver appears quite regularly.
Dont be fooled.......there are plenty more races under suspicion.
[VVV] I'll Second that. Well said Howard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard
There is no wonder some people are considering getting out of the industry for a while. It's terrible what has taken place.
the guilty be given life bans! Amen
Looking at the time inbetween some of the 37 races highlighted, not all has been revealed or declared. They are just the races O'Toole has stated he has involvement with. If the $430,000 reported is true, then there are many many more races involved. 1 man, 37 races, $430K........ That's $11,621 average per race. He wasn't getting that much. How they are going to promote this Sport is certainly going to be a huge job. I'd rather be Gillard trying to sell NBN or Climate Change.
I understand where you are coming from as it doesn't look good right now. But after the dust has settled HRNSW can put its hand up and say "We have had the Police go through this sport and clear out the deadbeats, it is now clean". Not many other sports can say that. Not many have just opened the books and invited such a purge. Brighter days are ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by PD13
I feel much more confident when people are actually getting caught. There's ALWAYS some sort of corruption going on.
HRNSW can't and won't say that, and it would be unfair to expect it to. I hope that everything is water-tight re the legal aspects so that where charges are made the evidence/process is strong enough for them to stick. I'm sure we will have a cleaner sport after all of this but wider confidence will take some time to return. At least we will be moving forwards. The people involved should be thoroughly thoroughly ashamed of themselves. By the time this is all over the cost of the investigation, legal advice, etc will probably be on a par with the ill-gotten gains. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Mac
Where ever money is involved there will always be corruption! there are a lot more out there that use different ways to either win a race or pull there horses up especially when favorite, I have been following Harness racing for over 30 years and i have seen quite a lot, I won't mention any names but there is on fellow that never tried on a favorite unless it was a big win prize or he was on a roughie, and what i am saying is fact, i used to keep data bases on all horses Trials, Sales, Wins And Mile Rates etc, i used to earn a second income, but the past 2 years has been unbelievable, you can throw any type of form out the window as horses being beaten by 40 metres on there merits are winning their next starts. How?? Unless they have a little help!! It's impossible for them to show form reversal. In saying that on hearing that there is 37 plus races that are under scrutiny tells me that i had no chance of investing my money for a return. All areas of a harness race need to be looked at here's a few.
1.Any horse or driver leading with slow sectionals, both be banned for 3 months. there should be a minimum set of lead times for all distances.
2.Favorites that that don't perform to expectations, both be banned for 3 months.
3.Form reversal horses beaten out of sight last start barring an incident, both be banned for 3 months.
4.If a trainer has 2 or more in a race and one is favorite but doesn't put in an effort and is beaten by a stablemate, every endeavor should be made by stewards to find out why, because there are many races where the favorite or form horse loses when it should have had every thing going for it to win unless it fell over.
These are only a few incidences that need addressing and if HRNSW want integrity back in this sport they need too think that it the punting public that keeps them afloat and the more they are betting on bad investments because of corruptness the more they will give it away.
Legendairey
If we adopted your suggestions, especially 3 what would you do with the recently USA returned trainer and his horse from race 11 at Menangle today.