I think he is comparing FOR against a run of Smoken Up who does it at both ends. FOR races like IMQQuote:
Originally Posted by Maorisidol
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I think he is comparing FOR against a run of Smoken Up who does it at both ends. FOR races like IMQQuote:
Originally Posted by Maorisidol
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Originally Posted by german
[VVV] A landmark Southern Hemisphere performance, damned with faint praise.
I have said it was a great run. Although FAR was aided once again my Lauren panella running a 55 sec first half if that does not happen FAR would have been 3br and driven for luck. If you watch the replay he sits quietly on the fence only emerging at the 400 metre markj and commencing a run into the straight. If that was a miracle mie field the death horse would have been able to keep up therefore highly likely there would have been no run. I have said FAR will be a great chance in the MM BUT wiull need to take a cold sit and hope to get a run or receive a hectic pace and hope he can get clear running on the turn and finish off. I think your tunes will change in a race where the sectionals are mpre evenly based in a high quality field where runs arnt presented to Slackas sitting 3br...
Exactly Im the mighty qiuin another tail coat rider needs speed on and races run to suit. He is a champion but needs help in his races. Smokin up a true champion help or no help he wins hands down!Quote:
Originally Posted by p plater
Marty you need to stop wriggling - your apology would seem to be under extreme duress LOL. No matter what FOR does in the future - he has run 2 brilliant races. And please stop wriggling - IMQ is a champion but you even manage to downgrade this praise by adding that SU is a 'true' champion. LOL
You must be bloody fussy about who you keep in your barn
No doubt in my mind there will be a hectic pace and that's exactly what the MM is all about, A speed contest. Some horses just can't hoof it out of the mobile like Smoken Up or a Mach Beauty etc. As far as a cold sit or joining in at the 400 is concerned, the horse must still be running along. FAR has come from behind yes, but he hasn't just fallen over the line, he's bolted in, winning in milestone times. Generally a race that's run at break neck speed is suitable to a horse that's coming from behind and luck in running comes into the equation yes, but it still has a be very good to achieve this. Kev, I think squirming would be a better word.
Marty, can I please refer your attention to the Miracle Mile run on 28th April 2013. The winner Baby Bling sat 3 pegs. So your theory of being unable to get out is well, quite questionable. You seem to have quite twisted logic. If the leader runs the first half in a Miracle Mile in 58 does that not mean that they are being helped? To question Quinny, well three Interdominions tells me that you way off the mark. Don't forget that the horse coming from the back need to cover more ground than the leader and generally have to negotiate more traffic than the leaders. No doubt Smoken Up is a champion and he may be your favourite but the fact are Quinny is in the same class and certainly Smoken Up is no better.
As I stated earlier in this post I just hope Beautide gets an invite to the Miracle Mile. It beat For a Reason 3 starts ago and considering that he lost 10-12 metres when he locked wheels on Saturday night his real time was in the 1:50s. Really love the way this horse does his thing, he seems to have an amazing amount of bottom.
Beautide very impressive on Saturday night. Great to see a horse from Tassie in the mix.
Not sure what you mean my wriggling. Ive explained myself. 2 great race both off farcial first halves. When he goes to the fron and runs a sub 150.0 please get back to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Please...... Baby Bling was gifter the 2013 Miracle mile it is a good FFA horse and that is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Marty, In your time of watching the Trots, How many mares have been good enough to compete in the FFA ranks and been good enough to win a Group 1 race???? Now we are talking FFA class Group 1 races here, Interdom, MM, New Zealand Cup etc!!
Wriggling - as Rich suggested 'squirming' is the word I was looking for. You keep qualifying your praise for horses so that your earlier posts don't seem totally wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by german
In your book, a horse has to be a leader to be a champion. Do you know how ridiculous that is ?
Considering what day it is why don't you apply it to the Melbourne Cup - because it would be flamin ridiculous ! (that Makybe Diva never did it from the front - what a soft winner)
??? I know they were going fast but why didn't Gold Ace ever lock FAR up
I never once said a horse has to lead to be a champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Gold Ace could not keep up that was the reason it didnt put FAR in a pocket. The leader as i have said was running way to quickly. Cant put brains in some drivers who oviously cant read races as well as i can. Your referral to a Melbourne Cup shows what you know maybe you should be at the Melbourne Cup with the otther 100 thousand mug punters who have no idea. Oh and while im here I was tipping Red Cadeux in the Cup maybe Gerald Moose needs a lesson on where the Fence is once again sits 3 wide and took off way to early...
He drew the car park. He would have had to go back to get in. Much harder from back where he would have been. Beaten 11 lengths last start by Volouese de Coeurs. VDC went back and look at the result. Yes unlucky but I doubt many would have got him a spot on fence close enough to be in it at finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by german
In more relevance to this thread however, I'm Victorious has been given 1st invite to the mile.
Marty, your comments are just ridiculous. When Smoken Up went 1 48.5 the first half was run in 53.1 so a 55 first half for high quality horses is nothing exceptional. My comments were not about the quality of Baby Bling but the fact that it sat 3 pegs and won the race from a position you said was impossible to win against good horses. Facts are Baby Bling won the Miracle Mile and that cannot be denied.
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Originally Posted by german
I think it's time to get this old number out..............................
The Riders in the Stand
There's some that ride the Robbo style, and bump at every stride;
While others sit a long way back, to get a longer ride.
There's some that ride like sailors do, with legs and arms, and teeth;
And some ride on the horse's neck, and some ride underneath.
But all the finest horsemen out -- the men to Beat the Band --
You'll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand.
They'll say "He had the race in hand, and lost it in the straight."
They'll show how Godby came too soon, and Barden came too late.
They'll say Chevalley lost his nerve, and Regan lost his head;
They'll tell how one was "livened up" and something else was "dead" --
In fact, the race was never run on sea, or sky, or land,
But what you'd get it better done by riders in the Stand.
The rule holds good in everything in life's uncertain fight;
You'll find the winner can't go wrong, the loser can't go right.
You ride a slashing race, and lose -- by one and all you're banned!
Ride like a bag of flour, and win -- they'll cheer you in the Stand.
Banjo Patterson.
That poems pretty ironic dont cha think. Condemns others for making judgements, but feels as if he can comment whether the rider rode a slashing race and still lost, or rode a plain race and still won. Who is the poet anyway :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
As per the title, this thread it should have been used to celebrate a rare but wonderful achievement in Austalasian Harness racing with the performances of For A Reason.
Whilst the thread was dragged away from its origins in many tangents with people generally expressing fair opinions it has lately degenerated to an unacceptably low level.
Accordingly this thread which should have promised much is now CLOSED