Astonishing! Was trying to think of a way to describe the win........Greg Hayes then said it.......'he was involved in the 26.5 first quater getting to the chair, from there he just owned them'. Astonishing!
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Astonishing! Was trying to think of a way to describe the win........Greg Hayes then said it.......'he was involved in the 26.5 first quater getting to the chair, from there he just owned them'. Astonishing!
They have taken Im Victorious straight to the university for treatment so must be serious.The driver should get the same amount of time as the horse that was knocked down.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy777
Excuse my ignorance, I was too busy lauding the winner to go back and check the interference. Is someone willing to name & shame??
lost a lot of blood and possibly tendon damage...poor bugger.
Panella pulled out from behind smolda and took him out..
Yep, just watched replay of the incident several times and couldn't see Lauren turn her head to see if safe AT ALL! Big holiday and should be a serious fine...i seriously don't think she knows how wide her cart is that girl seen her do it before.Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaB25
Beautide huge, congrats to the Tassie boys!
Both Mc Carthys out late both flew home, same for Restrepo...
Great race great result really.
Pretty sure she already had a 'holiday' that was to commence tonight.
She is already suspended but was aloud to drive this week and start suspension after today. She should get 6 month's for it bloody discgraceful performance. I believe if you are suspended you should start it after the day you get it. Did David Miles get banything for running up the ass of the horse in front of him on Mindarie Priddy ?
Mark Purdon 10 day's for his drive on smolda.
She got 18 days in Derby Heat http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=PC220214&rn=3. Exactly the same as today.....she doesn't even look to see if there's room to come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by brent_L
No wonder she likes to lead.
I trust IV will recover to race again.
I knew he was best horse in race but I had no idea how he would handle the distance and I had even less of an idea he'd be able to I'd it so tough and run away from them like he did. What a win Beautide.
GREAT run and a GREAT drive Beautide, hail the new hero of harness racing, everyone who regularly visits this forum knows I'm a huge fan, but by gee both horse and the young man further consolidated my opinion of them both.
Great to see the Rattray family enjoy the success they have well and truly earned, there are no overnight rags to riches stories, this family have been exceptional trainers for decades and decades, they finally found the horse to display their collective skills.
A wonderful day for Harness Racing in my opinion, and can I say it again....wonderful drive! on the best horse in the race!
Not sure how true this is as I read it else where
Drivers were told 70 days will be the starting point for interference in the Inter plus fines. Either way 8 or 10 wks isn't enough as at know stage did she even look to see where the others were on her outside. I've seen a lot lesser incidents get 6wks.
Congrats to the Rattray family on there win, Beautide went super and there will be plenty more win's to come.
Hi Ash, good too see you back on the forum. Last season we argued about IMTQ, after the Miracle Mile we argued about Beautide and Trigger. I am hoping you will be around in another 9 months time so we can squabble over horses again and you can make it a trifecta. You really are a great judge. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maorisidol
The AFL do double suspensions for the Grand Final, so if true re 70 days a starting point, I don't think anyone would argue a case against a 6 month suspension, just as dangerous as what Cramp done.Quote:
Originally Posted by mango
Stewards report says she got 8 weeks.
A driver got called into the stewards room after a Group 2 last wkend due to whip action and he was informed that if he received a fine it would be double the $$$ due to it being a Group race. So if it was to be the same for suspensions are they saying we would of gave you 4 wks but you get 8 wks due to it being a group 1, if that's the case I think they need to have a good look at the replay again. I agree with you totally Brendan, just as dangerous as what Cramp done. Looking forward to what spin they put on this as to why Lauren only received 8 wks.
Just read this
Vets have just informed connections of I'm Victorious that he has severely damaged 2 tendons and will almost never race again. For connections I hope he can get back to the race's one day as he is such an exciting horse with loads of ability.
8 wks...disgraceful!
the excuse for pulling the wrong rein is not acceptable IMO..(as said on sky later after the race)
the outcome was devastating and its just fortunate that no other runners were caught up in the interference.
That's a poor excuse, maybe she should go back to the trials and learn to drive again.Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaB25
I'm sorry, but 8 weeks is just not acceptable considering the damage caused and the status of the race. Protected species!!!!
I think you'll find that there were other runners inconvenienced due to the incident as per Reid Sanders on Sky when interviewed by the panel after the last race.Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaB25
too think she had a suspended suspension and probably shouldn't have been driving today anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild
If memory serves. She was also rubbed out round November, but was allowed to drive in NZ on Suave Stuey Lombo. Seriously, some of these stewards must part time at the adult parole board!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy777
Yes, others were inconvenienced in the incident. But luckily not to the same extent of IV, who may never race again..
HERE IS THE STEWARD'S REPORT FOR THE iNTER.
RACE 7 – TAB.COM.AU INTER DOMINION GRAND FINAL – 3009 METRES
All horses have been located in the HRNSW retention facility since 12 noon Thursday 27 February 2014.
Pre race urine and blood samples were taken from all runners.
An application from the connections of MACH BEAUTY to drive the horse aggressively was approved. The horse worked forward to obtain the lead, however the lead was taken off it in the first quarter of the last mile.
Passing the winning post the first time TERROR TO LOVE NZ broke and galloped for a short distance. SMOLDA, which was racing to the outside, was inconvenienced.
SMOLDA commenced a three wide run from the 1800 metres and obtained cover near the 1700 metres when BEAUTIDE came out three wide forward of it. BEAUTIDE then raced three wide without cover until it worked forward and obtained the lead approaching the 1200 metres.
TERROR TO LOVE NZ commenced a three wide run without cover near the 1200 metres.
M Purdon, the driver of SMOLDA, pleaded guilty to a charge under Rule 163(1)(a) in that between the 1200 metres until a point passing the 1100 metres he jostled with TERROR TO LOVE NZ, which had to be checked and vacate its position in the running line. M Purdon was suspended for a period of 10 days which will commence at midnight on Friday 7 March 2014.
TERROR TO LOVE NZ raced three wide without cover from near the 1100 metres.
Near the 500 metres FOR A REASON shifted out of the running line and forced WARTIME SWEETHEART NZ wider on the track.
KEAYANG CULLEN, LIVINGONINTEREST and RESTREPO were held up for clear running in the early stages of the home straight.
L Panella, the driver of MACH BEAUTY, pleaded guilty to a charge under Rule 163(1)(a) in that passing the 100 metres she shifted out when insufficiently clear of IM VICTORIOUS, resulting in her sulky contacting the legs of IM VICTORIOUS, which checked and broke. FOREVER GOLD, which was following, locked wheels with IM VICTORIOUS, and had to be checked. TERROR TO LOVE NZ, LIVINGONINTEREST and CARIBBEAN BLASTER were also hampered as a result of the incident. IM VICTORIOUS sustained substantial lacerations to its off foreleg in the incident. L Panella was suspended for a period of 8 weeks which will commence at midnight on Thursday 20 March, following the expiration of her 18 day suspension commencing at midnight on Sunday 2 March 2014.
Post race swab samples were taken from the winner BEAUTIDE, SEEL N PRINT, FOR A REASON and SMOLDA.
Why shouldn't she be charged with this rule as well as i believe the penalty would be greater ?
relating to careless driving
168. (1) A person shall not before, during or after a race drive in a manner which in the opinion of the Stewards is careless, reckless, incompetent, intimidatory, improper, foul or likely to endanger persons or horses.
(2) A person who fails to comply with sub rule (1) is guilty of an offence.
NSW Penalties.
PENALTY GUIDELINES FOR DRIVING OFFENCES PENALTY GUIDELINES FOR DRIVING OFFENCES.
Rule 163 (1) (a) & 168 Rule 163 (1) (a) & 168 (1)
21 days Horse checked, tightened or jostled
28 days Horse checked, tightened or jostled on first turn
28 days Horse checked and broke
35 days Horse checked and broke on first turn
35 days Horse checked causing fall or driver dislodged
*A premium of up to 21 days may be applied for cases where a driver is found to have displayed a high degree of
carelessness
**Charges under more serious sections of the rule may attract higher penalties
Good Driving Record Penalty Discounts Good Driving Record Penalty Discounts iscounts
14 days discount 600 drives or 2 years since last suspension under these rules
10 days discount 300 drives or 12 months since last suspension under these rules
7 days discount 150 drives and no more than 2 suspensions in the last 12 months under these rules
Guilty Plea Guilty Plea
7 Days Discount
*It must be noted that whilst discounts will be applied no penalty will be reduced below 7 days
Premium for Poor Driving Record Premium for Poor Driving Record
14 days premium 6 or more suspensions in last 400 drives or 12 months
*Furthermore for “win at all costs” attitude or breaches in feature races under the above rules monetary penalties
may also be included. Feature races may also result in higher base penalty being considered
They've just confirmed snoops racing career is over. he's still not out of the woods, the next 10 days will be touch & go and hopefully he remains infection free.
Really feel for the Brennan's at this time, just devastating...always happens to the top ones.
Dont know how they did it but they done a mighty good job with the track today it didnt apperar to be anything like 2 weeks ago,
I had my reservations i honestly didnt think Beautide could win and especially not do the work he did and still pull away at the finish. Super win and he seems to be getting even better with every run hes the complete package he is so versatile.
Very sad news abt IV. I cant believe that yet again he gets ko'd and now it looks like hes career could be over, definetly not fair.
Same here - after the race they were saying what a great stayer he is, I did not know this until today. Sensational. He has now won over $1M in half a season (plus 2 days)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Hi GregQuote:
Originally Posted by Greg Hando
After reading your post on rule 168 (1) I can't understand why she wasn't charged with this rule, hopefully Adam Fairley from hrnsw will be on here today and will be able to clarify this.
You'd think twice about jumping in a car with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by mango
Maybe a Dodgem car!!
This is on top of her taking the legs of Lettucerockthem last week which was as bad and only luck prevented serious injury to that horse.
I have been saying her ego has overtaken her ability for at least 6 months.
Glad to see everyone on my side.
Did Mr Sanders say the enquiries were continuing?
Even though it doesn't deal with the interference would have thought there may have been a look at not continuing to pursue the inside run as the best option. If so, and if guilty, served concurrently?
Have heard one of the other drivers in the Final has apparently tweeted told "70 days will be the starting point" for interference in this race. Plus fines.
Twice in 7 days and only gets 8 wks for second offence is pathetic. I remember after Maitland they were demanding respect, well one must show it to receive it which has not been the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pena
After all you have been ostracised, by in particular Mr Varcoe and his associates maybe you could demand an apology, Pena.
Or maybe age has taught you to be more humble.
Interested on your point of view Jamie.
:) :) :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by richard prior
Boydy, thanks for the credit I have been amazed by the arrogance since the Newcastle Herald comments of Ms Panella. But I can take it on my wrinked chin. Hopefully harness racing realises its ignorance including Jamie and his cronies.
Not really following NSW, I have not bought into the Panella debate (maybe a little worried it might be like the Manning bashing that suggested Kerryn could not drive in her early years) but having just watched it again you have to say what she did was criminal. If 8weeks is the best the authorities can do then maybe her peers will have to deal with her. I can remember racing with an unsafe rider in my cycling days but we soon let him know how it was going to be.
Hard not to feel sorry for connections of I'm Victorious.
Don't expect your horse to be carved up by follow competitor.
Hopefully horse is abvle to get back.