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Teehee hehe my point :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mango
Forever Gold went massive. Always liked her since she beat Caesars Folly few months back, 2100, 2600 wont matter to her in the future. Shes going to be a star. Courageous Annie, all went wrong, still think with the way Forever Gold went it would have taken her A+ game to beat her. Courageous Annie got Forever Gold beat in the end but thats racing.
Any throughts on the other big race this weekend... 4yo. Draw shapes it as a awesome race. Torque In Motion from the 1. She's another one, deadset freak. I think she CAN beat Lanercost. 2100 wont worry her. Cant wait, she should go around $3.50 with Lanercost being $1.20.
Blackie has to get a mention. He's still got it, did it in a canter last week. Wouldnt put it past him to do the sunshine sprint / winter cup double. Who's going to beat him?
I can't remember the number of times I have written off Blackie as "over the hill" in the past . I'm tired of scraping egg off my face time and time again when he makes a fool of me , so looking forward to more tremendous efforts from him in those two features.
Courage to Rule will pay $7 and beat them both with the Iceman in the bike
Mate, having seen Motu Crusader's last couple of outings that's a VERY big call.
As much as i'd like to see Courage To Rule win for one of my mate's who part own's him, i can't see him beating Lanercost who come's out of 5.
Very nice horse Triple his last couple of runs have been huge and he is the main danger to Lanercost.Quote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
3-0 CTR over Lanercost in big races including deathseating and destroying him in a 54.2 last half breeders crown heat,Vic Derby and 3yo Breeders Crown final
Hi Ramish
It might pay to go through current form and not last year's.
Hey MangoI agree but I dont think either horse is going any different to last year timewise and although its hard to guage form in two countries I think overalll CTR has been racing in much harder fields. I think Lanercost s nearly unbeatable in a sit and sprint race but CTR is much better in a hard run race
dont underestimate Torque in Motion - she is an outstanding mare and drawn to get a fantastic tripQuote:
Originally Posted by ramish
His last 5 race's he beat Be Good Johhny came 2nd in the Hondo Grattan Stakes then won the Charriots Of Fire then had a month of racing and come's out and win's 2 tune up race's, so can you please explain how CTR has been racing much harder fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by ramish
Hi MightymoQuote:
Originally Posted by mightymo
You are correct she is an outstanding mare and drawn to get a good trip but i just feel she might end up further back on the pegs than they would like and the boy's might be a bit to strong for her.
Mango
Lanercost last 5 starts raced 3 top horses-Be Good Johney(11yo),Motu Crusader and For A Reason(had an injury. CTR last 5 starts Gomeo Romeo,Smiling Shard,Sir Lincoln,Franco Emerite,Devil Dodger,Lancome and Mach Banner. I know which lot I think is easier.
Hi Ramish
Form of CTR
11 of 13
11 of 13
1 of 5
5 of 10
Yeah true he did race them horses but at present they are panels ahead of him. For me he is going know where near his form of last year and that is the reason they sent him across. I suppose tommorrow night will tell.
This is quite the show. I like the plot. Conclusion will be interesting.
Who's up for popcorn?
It might not be popcorn it could well be egg on my face lol. I was just going through Lanercosts form from last year and he raced over the 2100m to 2600m in all his starts so the distance wont bother him and i thought his last hit out was superb, for me i think he is getting better with each run and i think he is an all round stronger horse this time in.
I like popcorn and egg and Ive had plenty of both on my face.I think CTR is going as good as last year.You probably need to see his last few Runs.He wouldnt be there if he wasnt going any good .Why is Herlihy going over to drive him?Should be a great race and may the best horse on the night win
Hi Ramish
I've seen all his runs and thats just my opinion that he isn't going as good as last year. And to be honest with you i don't know why Herlihy is driving him as i thought G Bennett would be driving him for sure. Yeah it should be a cracking race and we both might have egg on our face's and the way i'm backing them tonight i'm in trouble already lmao.
If he is only going as good as last I would be worried. He is a year older and should be going better. If you aint going forward you're going backwards.
I am sitting on the fence though as I don't follow NZ form.
CTR is $26.0 on fixed odds tattsbet right now which is incredible overs.
Mark, Mick & Tom & the crew with Jennas Highview and Adrian & Ben with Vertigal.
Here's hoping for a Thorny 1-2.
Mmmm.... nice to know where your allegiances lie!! :):)Quote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
lanny!
i am going for vertigal , owners are really nice people and she has always been a favorite of mine.
good luck
Congrats Montana on Lanercosts win
Hi OzninjaQuote:
Originally Posted by ozninja
I think i was right in saying they were there to make up the numbers and thankfully i won't be scrapping no egg of my face this time.
Gee if Torque in motion did not run around like a saturday night drunk in the valley how different the result would be..very nice filly and is shaping up to be one to follow over the next couple of years.
NSW through and through Mightymo. You Mexicans will just have to learn to fend for yourselves. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mightymo
Hi CriagQuote:
Originally Posted by craig
Yes it would of made thing's interesting, the Valley happy memories there and you are right she did run all over the shop. I look foward to seeing this mare travel a bit next year and take on the top mare's.
Heartbreaking. Cant remember who said she would be too far back on the fence. Was always going to be a two horse race. Even if Motu Crusader didnt bleed he wouldnt of got near the winners with the times they ran home in. 32 First quarter was the killer I think. The way Lanercost has been going, no one has got closet to him so I think it shows how good Torque In Motion to have taken ground off him and maybe should have beaten him if she had not run around. Got to remember still only her 2nd prep of racing. Only going to get better. Courage To Rule aint half the horse he use to be, and Lanercost is double the horse he use to be so that argument was crap. Motu Crusader, must be very disappiointing for connections. Would of run 3rd easily following those two horses. Puts a big question mark on the rest of his career now.
And of course Forever gold. $3.20 was bet early, didnt anybody watch the race last week? She's so tough. Cant wait for her to go to Melbourne.
Hi Dazza
Yeah mate that was me who said she might end up 3 back the pegs, i thought one of the others would of come out a little harder and try to get to the peg's and then let Lanercost go to the front. Torque In Motion's run was super and i look foward to down the track when she match's it with her own sex in the big mare's race's.
Hi Dazza in future could we have your expert analysis pre-race. That way I won't waste time doing form only to lose out; I can profit of you!!! Cheers.
Earth to Ramish , come in Ramish , where are you? Are you still hiding and eating your humble pie ?
Now finally you can shut up about how superior CTR is compared to Lanercost.
Ozninja-clearly your reading abilities are limited.I am eating egg and popcorn but I never said ctr was better than Lanercost.I said if Lanercost can lead and get easy early sections he is almost unbeatable but I think ctr is better when they go hard all the way.The best horse on the night won as he should have with the run he had but I wouldn't mind either of them in my ownership
nothing wrong with a little friendly rivalry however i must correct the stats its now 3-3 between lanny and CTR ( u missed the vic derby heat and the gold coast derby )
cheers
OK. Ramish my post was meant to be light-hearted and sorry if you took me seriously.
Any thoughts about why Torque in Motion was so erratic in the straight? I thought she had Lanercost at one stage until she ran all over the track. I can't remember her doing anything that bad before.
Terrible news with Motu Crusader bleeding. Hope can come back as good as ever after the enforced spell.
Hey Ozninja I thought I was been lighthearted too!!The joy of racing is that we are wrong more than we are right.
I don't think Torque would have beaten Lanercost if she ran straight.He would have kicked if she was next to him rather than been out wide but her running out was odd.Has she done that before?
is it fact Motu bled?Luke said after the race he choked down
Hi Ramish
Stewards report say's Motu Crusader bled and has been stood down 3 months, 1 trial and a vet's certificate.