Harness racing - things that annoy you most

Hey Ozninja, I know there have been ongoing timing issues stretching back to The Ghost in the Machine at HP who haunted proceedings for some time there...but do you know what is the actual problem is with the timing gear?...as in the cause? I've seen tracks where things go on the fritz in a fog etc. Is there something else that messes things up at Menangle? Btw...if it's any consolation, on the Monday of the June long-weekend the Fairfield timing gear also completely shat itself during the Carnival of Cups meeting. I think Hayes hand-timed one race. Not sure about the reliability of the sectionals though. :p

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Originally Posted by triplev123

Hey Ozninja, I know there have been ongoing timing issues stretching back to The Ghost in the Machine at HP who haunted proceedings for some time there...but do you know what is the actual problem is with the timing gear?...as in the cause? I've seen tracks where things go on the fritz in a fog etc. Is there something else that messes things up at Menangle? Btw...if it's any consolation, on the Monday of the June long-weekend the Fairfield timing gear also completely shat itself during the Carnival of Cups meeting. I think Hayes hand-timed one race. Not sure about the reliability of the sectionals though. :p

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Yeah, he caught wiff of a pie and the timing went out the window. Another patron then timed Hayes time taken to track down the pie and it was a PB 7.2 seconds.

What bugs me about harness racing ?
The lack of a 1400m track in Victoria.
In Victoria some tracks charge admission and some don't.
Stewards holding up the start of many races in Vic by not being in position on time.
Drivers who hang back from the mobile and try to fly the start. Stewards for not stoping this.
Horses being swabed and then the swabs not tested.
Swabs taking 4 weeks when they are tested.
Studs that charge excessive agistment fees.
Studs that don't include GST in their prices.
No outside undercover seating at Melton.The owners room no longer has a tote window.
OH&S laws keeping potential new owners away from the horses.
Those $2000 races in Vic.The tab still makes a profit, why should owners suffer ?

As far as horse size goes, if your breeding to sell then you try to breed a horse that will look good in the sale ring. It should be a good size and be by a leading fashionable sire.If your breeding to race then you go for the stallion thats blood best suits your mare, size is irrelivant.
Just my 2 bobs worth.

i always thought not includng gst in your advertised price is illegal gutwagon?

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Originally Posted by smithy

i always thought not includng gst in your advertised price is illegal gutwagon?

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It is ,but many adds say eg.$3000 +gst and when you enquire about other fees they often quote $x a day and forget to say plus gst. All prices should always include the gst full stop. They just do it that way to make it sound cheaper !

Gutwagon - good of you to point this thread out.

Time to dust off the turrets, load up the cannons and take dead aim.

THINGS THAT ANNOY YOU THE MOST

1. Incompetent Stewarding (clear gold medal winner for mine)
2. Incompetent Stewarding (can take the silver too)
3. Incompetent Stewarding (can fill the trifecta and take bronze)

Also ran:

4. Intitiatives taken in the industry without wider consultation to the rest of the industry / intitiatives that suit one aspect of the industry but have a negative impact elsewhere on something that is pretty important (i.e: Breeding Panel Report recommendation 5.1 or part thereof)
5. Vested interests put in front of the greater good of the industry
6.High net worth individuals in the industry whom utilise their financial clout to manipulate administrators into acting on their various requests, even if it doesn't promote a level playing field
7. Administrators whom bow to the above (5) requests
8. Administrators whom exhibit incompetence (too many)
9. Administrators whom utilise their positions for personal gain at the expense of the industry
10. Administrators whom fail time and time again to promote the sport and give you every excuse under the sun as to why they don't / can't.
11. Administrators whom fail to understand the evolution of the betting landscape, and the general sporting landscape surrounding the sport (like in the 60's)
12. Did I mention incompetent Stewarding?
13. Hobby drivers (at anything above a restricted meeting)
14. Incompetent drivers
15. Absolute bullsh*t spun to Stewards by drivers that gets swallowed hook, line and sinker
16. Flat last turns on half mile tracks
17. Warm beer served at the trots
18. Breeders whom moan about not precuring a sale when one look at the catalogue clearly shows that they are dreaming about their expectations
19. General trots food (the deep fried artery clogging bonanza that grace various harness tracks)
20. Race clubs that show SKY on the TV's for the interstate meetings but persist in keeping the volume down!!
21. At the race clubs whom do have the volume up, those bloody races from Broome or Singapore that they play the call in the middle of a harness race
22. All those in the sport living in the past, and not seeing we are living in the now
23. Racing ministers whom actually think they do something for the sport when they don't
24. Imbeciles whom cannot rate their horses in the cart


Stopped at 24 as the TAB cannot handle any bigger fields.

Did I miss anyone?

Gee I am a miserable git.

Need a hug?

No 13 there goes over half of NSW driving rank's perhap's more

TBM wrote [Gee I am a miserable git.]

Nah.......you're more of a Fat Bastard. ;););););)
(like me)

I agree with nearly all of what TBM said. Oh and dont forget those stewards !!