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I feel that there would have been an inquiry into the Bathurst race but I may be wrong.

To be honest we will never know because they are not the circumstances that eventuated. A good rule of thumb in these circumstances is if an impartial observer might think "whats going on here" that is when stewards should investigate, so what went on can be explained.

I think watching Bathurst it was easy to have that thought especially when the horses recent tactics are considered.

It will surprise many but personally I am not a fan of the COT rules all I have done in the past is say it should be applied consistently and I have any many debates on here with VVV as to that, so be clear I do not like the concept, having said that, I do think it is applied consistently.

I would be happy to offer an opinion on the two examples you have mentioned just list the races and I will have a look and give a view, in general terms though the COT rule and announcement is always accompanied by "if circumstances permit", for example if you are a leader going to take cover but still go forward you are not expected to run a 36 quarter if nothing challenges you for the lead just to get cover, likewise if you are going back and there is just no speed and you are caught 3 deep without cover and puling you would not be found in breach if you then went forward, as these are circumstances of the race and therefore it would be found circumstances did not permit the intended change.

There will be no need for VVV to remind me he found one or two examples where the stewards in NSW got the COT's wrong in July or August last year and as I said then from time to time they will make a blue or miss something but as punters we should be aware that can happen, we miss most winners most weeks,

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The only point I can make is that Well Caught Marsh is a very fast beginner from the mobile, and holds the lead when it can in QLD, it was drawn inside Deadsetlucky and was able to hold it out for the lead, 25.3 the first quarter (Fred said.."fastest ever at Menangle") Deadsetlucky also a super fast beginner and usually can cross and lead at Menangle from any gate!........A match race for the fast beginners to the first turn........and that's what we got! Being drawn outside of the other horse Deadsetlucky, needed an extra length to cross, and at 25.3, I don't know where that was going to come from? I thought what a great speed duel between the pair, there was no room either for Deadsetlucky to pull in behind after the first turn..........So we ended up with an exciting race, and the "swoopers" appeared on the scene and won the race! I have no problems at all with how things panned out! Perhaps J Alchin should have looked up the form of the interstate guest!

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[VVV] For mine there's a HUGE time & a fair class difference though don't you think?
1:53.8 under no pressure and just dictating terms off the front up at Albion Park to me is a whole world away from a leaving the gate stamped urgent 25.3 opener through to a 54 & a piece half and ultimately a 1:51 & a piece mile at Menangle. Viewed in that light, the apparent instructions to Mick Formosa to hold were a bit presumptuous to say the least. Deadsetlucky was always going to leave for the front or if it wasn't there straight away he was coming knocking early & forcefully. For the trainer of Well Caught Marsh to expect the horse be able to park out Deadsetlucky to the half and live to tell the tale was well wide of the mark, IMO. The instructions to hold with Well Caught Marsh gave the horse no chance at all...as I see it anyway.

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There will be no need for VVV to remind me he found one or two examples where the stewards in NSW got the COT's wrong in July or August last year and as I said then from time to time they will make a blue or miss something but as punters we should be aware that can happen, we miss most winners most weeks,

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[VVV] Hey, don't go roping me into this. I've been sitting quietly on the sidelines. :rolleyes:

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[VVV] For mine there's a HUGE time & a fair class difference though don't you think?
1:53.8 under no pressure and just dictating terms off the front up at Albion Park to me is a whole world away from a leaving the gate stamped urgent 25.3 opener through to a 54 & a piece half and ultimately a 1:51 & a piece mile at Menangle. Viewed in that light, the apparent instructions to Mick Formosa to hold were a bit presumptuous to say the least. Deadsetlucky was always going to leave for the front or if it wasn't there straight away he was coming knocking early & forcefully. For the trainer of Well Caught Marsh to expect the horse be able to park out Deadsetlucky to the half and live to tell the tale was well wide of the mark, IMO. The instructions to hold with Well Caught Marsh gave the horse no chance at all...as I see it anyway.

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Once again reputation doesn't always prevail! Deadset had no rights to the lead and got beaten to the lead on his merit in "track record " time for the 1st 400 metres - 25.3 secs. I don't understand why you say that expect to live and tell the tale by holding out Deadset is not true......obviously J Alchin had only one thing in his repertoire for Deadset, to lead at all cost, once that didn't happen he didn't think it was time to grab hold and drive like a "church mouse" from there on, and give himself to try again in the straight! There are a lot of drivers that think the winning post is in the "back straight", it is not and they need to consider their tactics.........2 of the most prolific winning drivers at Menangle are L McCarthy & D Thorn, they are usually not aiming up beyond reasonableness, but keeping something back for the home straight! At the end of the day in the race in question, there was only 5 metres separating both horses! Let's call it a draw?

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[VVV] Hey, don't go roping me into this. I've been sitting quietly on the sidelines. :rolleyes:

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Just wanted to be on the front foot I did not like the ease of you last wins over me.

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I feel that there would have been an inquiry into the Bathurst race but I may be wrong.

To be honest we will never know because they are not the circumstances that eventuated. A good rule of thumb in these circumstances is if an impartial observer might think "whats going on here" that is when stewards should investigate, so what went on can be explained.

I think watching Bathurst it was easy to have that thought especially when the horses recent tactics are considered.

It will surprise many but personally I am not a fan of the COT rules all I have done in the past is say it should be applied consistently and I have any many debates on here with VVV as to that, so be clear I do not like the concept, having said that, I do think it is applied consistently.

I would be happy to offer an opinion on the two examples you have mentioned just list the races and I will have a look and give a view, in general terms though the COT rule and announcement is always accompanied by "if circumstances permit", for example if you are a leader going to take cover but still go forward you are not expected to run a 36 quarter if nothing challenges you for the lead just to get cover, likewise if you are going back and there is just no speed and you are caught 3 deep without cover and puling you would not be found in breach if you then went forward, as these are circumstances of the race and therefore it would be found circumstances did not permit the intended change.

There will be no need for VVV to remind me he found one or two examples where the stewards in NSW got the COT's wrong in July or August last year and as I said then from time to time they will make a blue or miss something but as punters we should be aware that can happen, we miss most winners most weeks,

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I have now viewed the original race replay again several times, and wish to rescind my original decision!..........I now believe Mr T Rue should be exonerated completely and immediately, with an apology from the stewards that presided over the enquiry, and the decision to suspend him for 6 weeks!.........in the relevant race Happy Camper began brillliantly form barrier 7, and crossed the field easily, and was a "bit fired up" in the lead! I believe Kenmore Star did not show enough speed to take the lead off Happy Camper, ........ unless T Rue restained his horse very abruptly, which I suggest he really should not be doing, otherwise we may have had 2 horse breaking and then a "Royal Commission" into the incident would have been ordered!.......In it's 2 subsequent runs Happy Camper has started off the 2nd line once, and ran on strongly from a deep rails position, and today at Dubbo where it was drawn gate 1 it was aimed up for the lead very vigourously by Blake Jones, but was crossed for the lead, HC then sat behind the leader and came out in the straight and fought on very well for 2nd place! Perhaps the stewards and punters whom believed it should always take a sit are mistaken........as I said previously in comments, the horses form has been on the improve in recent runs, perhaps the horse has "seasoned" up this time in!

I think it might be time for this............

The Riders in the Stand

There's some that ride the Robbo style, and bump at every stride;
While others sit a long way back, to get a longer ride.
There's some that ride like sailors do, with legs and arms, and teeth;
And some ride on the horse's neck, and some ride underneath.
But all the finest horsemen out -- the men to Beat the Band --
You'll find amongst the crowd that ride their races in the Stand.
They'll say "He had the race in hand, and lost it in the straight."
They'll show how Godby came too soon, and Barden came too late.
They'll say Chevalley lost his nerve, and Regan lost his head;
They'll tell how one was "livened up" and something else was "dead" --
In fact, the race was never run on sea, or sky, or land,
But what you'd get it better done by riders in the Stand.
The rule holds good in everything in life's uncertain fight;
You'll find the winner can't go wrong, the loser can't go right.
You ride a slashing race, and lose -- by one and all you're banned!
Ride like a bag of flour, and win -- they'll cheer you in the Stand.
Banjo Patterson.

Beautiful stuff Danno. Many thanks. Ride like a bag of flour, and win...a magic visual that.

I see where one of the drivers involved in the 1st post on this thread Nathan Jack has just got 6 weeks for not giving his horse every chance at a Mildura meeting.

Source stewards wrap on harness .org.

Is it just me but he seems to be always involved in controversy
Glen Douglas got 4 for same reason

Neither...just common sense both issues got dealt with round the same time.

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There's nothing odd about it....??

Hey Aussie, what have you been up to? Getting edited, were you being a naughty boy?

Hey, just noticed you are 1,000 posts ahead of me, make that 999 now!

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Hmm don't know whats gone on. Both my posts remain unchanged, apart from Teecee deleting where I quoted him. Teecee has deleted his posts and deleted where I quoted him but left my posts...even though they make no sense now he has deleted his posts and quotes. Back to 1000 lol.

In relation to the Rue/O'Shea race, I have stayed out of the debate to see what others have thought and it seems we all seem to have differing opinions on what occurred and what, if any penaltys should have been handed down.

The first thing I would like to say is at last some action was taken on ridiculous tactics. Week in week out, we witness drives that at best are ordinary and nothing is said. The stewards finally acted. What gets me is the lack of consistency in applying penaltys that fits these drives. My personal grandstand opinion is Trent has no real case to answer, he was not hunting his steed along like O'Shea to hold his position. At worst 7 - 14 days, but like Formie said, why hand up to short priced favourites and let them dictate. Trents horse was still was giving on the line. I think the stewards have gone soft on O'Shea. He has undoubtably given his horse no reasonable chance of winning by pursuing the lead position when it was not up for grabs. He had ample opportunity to take a sit but chose to drive like he was at the Coliseum. Are the stewards not confident enough in laying more serious charges that deserves harsher penaltys? If they think that laying a charge of an unacceptable drive is appropriate for this kind of drive IMO, then they are treating the punters with contempt. There is no integrity in these charges.

So in the wash up O'Shea gets 4 weeks which he appealed. I keep going back to the Panella drive, 3 weeks for not taking a run in the straight, which IMO was borderline unsafe to do so....So 4 weeks, horse breaks, fav out of race and heavily backed horse wins versus 3 weeks for not causing carnage.

Is that supposed to be CONSISTENCY??? As a footnote Kenmore Star, trained and driven by M Butler raced at Dubbo 4/4/12 in a 1,320m race and finished 2nd. Driven much more patiently until the top turn when he took the legs of the death horse and the driver gets 2 weeks. CONSISTENCY??? This horse is becoming a magnet for drama. Replay http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=DU040412&rn=6

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In relation to the Rue/O'Shea race, I have stayed out of the debate to see what others have thought and it seems we all seem to have differing opinions on what occurred and what, if any penaltys should have been handed down.

The first thing I would like to say is at last some action was taken on ridiculous tactics. Week in week out, we witness drives that at best are ordinary and nothing is said. The stewards finally acted. What gets me is the lack of consistency in applying penaltys that fits these drives. My personal grandstand opinion is Trent has no real case to answer, he was not hunting his steed along like O'Shea to hold his position. At worst 7 - 14 days, but like Formie said, why hand up to short priced favourites and let them dictate. Trents horse was still was giving on the line. I think the stewards have gone soft on O'Shea. He has undoubtably given his horse no reasonable chance of winning by pursuing the lead position when it was not up for grabs. He had ample opportunity to take a sit but chose to drive like he was at the Coliseum. Are the stewards not confident enough in laying more serious charges that deserves harsher penaltys? If they think that laying a charge of an unacceptable drive is appropriate for this kind of drive IMO, then they are treating the punters with contempt. There is no integrity in these charges.

So in the wash up O'Shea gets 4 weeks which he appealed. I keep going back to the Panella drive, 3 weeks for not taking a run in the straight, which IMO was borderline unsafe to do so....So 4 weeks, horse breaks, fav out of race and heavily backed horse wins versus 3 weeks for not causing carnage.

Is that supposed to be CONSISTENCY??? As a footnote Kenmore Star, trained and driven by M Butler raced at Dubbo 4/4/12 in a 1,320m race and finished 2nd. Driven much more patiently until the top turn when he took the legs of the death horse and the driver gets 2 weeks. CONSISTENCY??? This horse is becoming a magnet for drama. Replay http://www.trotstv.com.au/?mc=DU040412&rn=6

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Charges under 149 are miniumum of 4 weeks and should always stay that way, either charge and give them a penalty or do not lay a charge.

In relation to Panella with the greatest of respect without seeing the head on you can not form an accurate opinion of the room or lack of, I have not see it and you may have, however the judge most certinally did and he and dismissed her appeal, for what that is worth, in the past they the judges have let plenty off on this rule for what looked worse drives. So perhaps it looks bad on the head on,

Well folks!, we will all get to see the re-run tonight at Bathurst.........Happy Camper drawn 2, and Kenmore Star drawn 3...........can't wait!

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Well folks!, we will all get to see the re-run tonight at Bathurst.........Happy Camper drawn 2, and Kenmore Star drawn 3...........can't wait!

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But with completely different pilots for both Steve, I doubt there'll be a re-run....... as i said earlier about that race there appeared to be a bit more than " on the night tactics" at stake.

cheers,
Dan

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But with completely different pilots for both Steve, I doubt there'll be a re-run....... as i said earlier about that race there appeared to be a bit more than " on the night tactics" at stake.

cheers,
Dan

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Well, well, well, well, well!.........the race is run, and Happy Camper leads throughout and WINS!........Kenmore Star broke again!..........I almost thought I was watching a replay of the same race again..........I hope the stewards have immediately exonerated MR T RUE, and apologised to him for their error, and given him bonus points for the next time he is pullled into the stewards room! As for Kenmore Star, this is the 3rd start in a row it has galloped! I think it will be required to trial satisfactorily! So, in hindsight Mr T Rue, has to have his appeal upheld, if there is any fairness! Don't you agree??

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Well, well, well, well, well!.........the race is run, and Happy Camper leads throughout and WINS!........Kenmore Star broke again!..........I almost thought I was watching a replay of the same race again..........I hope the stewards have immediately exonerated MR T RUE, and apologised to him for their error, and given him bonus points for the next time he is pullled into the stewards room! As for Kenmore Star, this is the 3rd start in a row it has galloped! I think it will be required to trial satisfactorily! So, in hindsight Mr T Rue, has to have his appeal upheld, if there is any fairness! Don't you agree??

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Glad you said almost there Steve, the tactics employed with Kenmore Star were vastly different to the previous clash, yes he did gallop again but not because he was getting revved up into the first corner again.
Good to see Happer Camper get another win up, he appears to be getting a bit stronger with age, we are breeding from older half sister to him we bought a few years ago, any win by another member of the family is a good thing as far as we are concerned.

Cheers,
Dan

In regard to the stewards reaching their findings, they would be derelict in their duty if they did not look at previous driving patterns of the horses concerned. But they should still remain open minded and COMPLETELY objective whilst inquiring into the original race that raised all the questions. Trent in my opinion was entitled to do as much as he did to repulse O'Sheas unacceptable challenge. O'Shea was the major contributor into the downfall of both horses that night and should have had much of the blame apportioned and penaltys directed at him. IMO stronger charges should have been laid but were not. ERGO the lack of faith the average punter has in the sport. ERGO the lack of credibility and integrity the sport has in the average punters mind. We are all waiting patiently for integrity to be applied in disqualifications/suspensions that are handed down, not raps over knuckles or inconsistent rulings or incorrect rulings full stop. In a couple of weeks time Lukes boldenone case comes up. It will be interesting to see how that pans out in light of the recent disqualification of Barry Lew...but I digress.

Formie says Trent has no case to answer, I too think he is blameless in this case and should have his appeal upheld. I originally did not think Rue should have been charged and was suprised he was. When I first saw it, all I could see was a short priced fav being murdered and its not a good look.

On the upside have to thank Steve for pointing out they were racing last night, would have missed it otherwise. Thought the Camper was nearly a moral because surely they were not going to take him on again. He got a comfy lead and had a nice kick left in him on the corner. Took $7.50 fixed odds (even tho' he finished up about $9 fixed odds but only paid about $5 on the tote). On the downside, Kenmore Stars got too many tricks in his locker to a be horse you could ever back with confidence again...I am sure his foodbill is paid for by the bookies, they must love him.:rolleyes:

I have just made a call to the Bankstown Bunker to get the results of the Trent Rue and John O'Shea drives we have been debating.

The Appeals were set down for yesterday.

The detailed findings are not yet available however so i will not speculate on the Judges actual reasons behind his decisions but here goes

Trent Rue appeal dismissed and penalty varied from 6 weeks back to 28 days, his appeal fee was forfeited.

John O'Shea appeal dismissed and penalty increased from 28 days to 6 weeks, his appeal fee was forfeited and he was ordered to pay additional costs of $250.

So it does not look like any apologies will be required by the stewards who made the original decisions, I always said the appeal results would be interesting.

Have just had a read through the John O'Shea appeal findings recently posted. http://www.hrnsw.com.au/assets/files...n%20170412.pdf Even though the case has now well and truly been finalised, a few interesting points come to light. As TVOR states the penalty was varied from four to six weeks. In pages 6 and 7 the tribunal outlines how it disagrees with the stewards view of O'Shea having a good driving history. He has held a driving licence since 2004, had over 3,000 drives, but has been suspended on 19 PREVIOUS OCCASSIONS, including two findings of misconduct...my point here is how often do we see penaltys reduced by stewards because of good driving historys that are littered by driving offences. Just what does define a good driving history and the jurisdiction an appellant is being tried under is a bit blurry.

In relation to the submission of costs, it is quite clear that if an appeal is frivolous/vexatious you can expect to have costs awarded against you. Apart from the fact Mr O'Shea considers it ridiculous and did not know about it, despite all documents explaining the same having been forwarded to him outlining what would be expected of him if his appeal failed, the Tribunal have accepted ignorance and self representation as mitigating circumstances in not awarding the full costs of proceedings which may have been up to approx $2,400, instead fining him only $500 less his appeal of $250 being forfeited. What a joke. John has not brought one bit of new evidence to the hearing, calls the whole thing ridiculous, represents himself and pleads ignorance to the finer points of the implications a failed appeal means to him. How does that not make it a frivolous appeal? I'm not having a shot at John, he did cop an extra two weeks. There were calls on this forum only a few months ago to free up the appeals process and this is the sort of defence (no defence) that is chewing up valuable harness racing finances. Hope Mr Nati has got some plans to knock this crap on the head. How about if a driver is racing on a stay of proceedings and loses their appeal and the appeal is proven to be frivolous, why not extend their vacation by the length of their stay of proceedings. That is only a suggestion, but something needs to be done if the stewards are going to be able to make decisions without fear of watching them crumble at a Tribunal hearing.

There are some interesting points you raise Brad.

Whilst John O'Shea was deemed by the judge to not have a good record I feel the stewards would not have considered interference charges and conduct charges when dealing with a breach under rule 149, whilst the judge is able to consider what he wishes these are not matters that stewards of any code would have normally considered.

I think every racing jurisdiction would love to implement your suggestion to stop people rorting the appeals and stay of proceedings system but it is not that easy The gallops in Victoria and NSW have it under control by having their appeals within days of the offence being proven, given the appeals system in NSW harness this is simply not achievable.

HRNSW are however leading the way with many drivers and trainers now not being granted a stay simply because they apply.

This is away from the norm and HRNSW need to be congratulated for taking the ball up hard on this issue. It would I am sure require a lot of work to convince the judge that a stay should not be granted so clearly they HRNSW are working hard to get confidence back into the integrity side of the industry.

I hope you all saw Kenmore Star gallop again tonight at Dubbo and cause a fall! As for the appeals decisions, yes, J O'shea obviously did not know how to present himself for an appeal, and lost out. T Rue, must be the unluckiest driver out there to be stood down over this matter.........all the tribunal judges said was that unless you can prove the steward in charge made an error the case is proven.............when evidence is submitted, they dismiss it without comment!.........However, in the J O'Shea case the judging panel said the stewards were in error saying that J O'Shea had a good driving record........on what basis do they come up with that?.......they did not qualify this remark.......the judging panel contradicts itself........why wouldn't someone appeal when the whole lot of them are incompetent!...........To crap on about what would Joe Blow in the public think about what happened in the race is a concern........if they could not understand what happened, then there needs to be an inquiry held, is just plain rubbish.........I suggest we then have a member of the public on every stewards panel to make sure everytime a favourite gets beat there needs to be an enquiry!......to be honest, the knowledge they all have could be written down on the "knuckle of a canary"! If I was T Rue or any other driver, I would not compete in a race that Kenmore Star was in...........and I would not be getting behind it until it learns to pace!......the stewards have done nothing to solve the Kenmore Star breaking problem..........it should be stood down for 5 trials minimum..........???
To be honest there was an opportunity to rectify the initial wrong decision, but they blew it! For the record, I would not know T Rue if he was sitting opposite me right now!

Wondered what happened to him tonight, thanks for posting that Steve. I saw a couple of them milling around and a bit later noticed the race was abandoned and then thought, did he cause a problem from the one. Like I said before, this horse has got too many tricks up his sleeve. His owners must be pulling their hair out.

Glad you read the appeal findings. It struck me as it did you, that they look at the race with "what would a reasonable minded spectator with some racing knowledge think or expect" (or words to that effect). These guys are supposed to be operating on the assumption that the stewards impressions are from an expert point of view and any decisions that the Tribunal makes should be based SOLELY on what the expert opinion is that is before them. That to me would be the professional position that any ruling body should be making any rulings or decisions on. Not what Joe Blow thinks. We are not the judge or jury, nor do we have any input that should influence what the Tribunal thinks. Deadset bloody well bewildering I reckon. Have not got a bone in my body that will ever understand how the law works, but I know the diff between right and wrong and what is passed off as justice, and the decisions in this case just don't make sense.

And I still don't think Trent had much of a case to answer.

You said it better than I did, because I was angry about the decision in the first instance and then when I watched the race and saw Kenmore Star begin fairly from the 1 and was crossed by the 2, and landed 1-1, then Amanda Turnbull decided to go and sit outside the lead, the horse appeared to be travelling well and then broke for no apparent reason....causing a chain reaction and one of the horses following hit the deck........KS recovered and then was sent 3 wide before the race was called off!
Re, Trent, the stewards and any one else had their chance to see Happy Camper come out and lead and beat KS (with it galloping again) after this, they had a 2nd chance and did not believe their eyes.........the only case against Trent was that the lead time was too fast at 37.5 secs in the eyes of the steward.......not that it only got beaten 13 metres after overdoing it so much early? As I said initially, every leader that get's beaten by more than 13 metres, from now on, the driver should be given 6 weeks! That is the stupidity of this situation.
Let's move onto something else.......what about the last race at Maryborough last friday......can someone watch this race and tell me what they think??

http://www.harness.org.au/video/vic/MHC27041204.mp4

Looks like I need to give you a hint..........I think the driver on the leader fell asleep!!!!!

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I hope you all saw Kenmore Star gallop again tonight at Dubbo and cause a fall! As for the appeals decisions, yes, J O'shea obviously did not know how to present himself for an appeal, and lost out. T Rue, must be the unluckiest driver out there to be stood down over this matter.........all the tribunal judges said was that unless you can prove the steward in charge made an error the case is proven.............when evidence is submitted, they dismiss it without comment!.........However, in the J O'Shea case the judging panel said the stewards were in error saying that J O'Shea had a good driving record........on what basis do they come up with that?.......they did not qualify this remark.......the judging panel contradicts itself........why wouldn't someone appeal when the whole lot of them are incompetent!...........To crap on about what would Joe Blow in the public think about what happened in the race is a concern........if they could not understand what happened, then there needs to be an inquiry held, is just plain rubbish.........I suggest we then have a member of the public on every stewards panel to make sure everytime a favourite gets beat there needs to be an enquiry!......to be honest, the knowledge they all have could be written down on the "knuckle of a canary"! If I was T Rue or any other driver, I would not compete in a race that Kenmore Star was in...........and I would not be getting behind it until it learns to pace!......the stewards have done nothing to solve the Kenmore Star breaking problem..........it should be stood down for 5 trials minimum..........???
To be honest there was an opportunity to rectify the initial wrong decision, but they blew it! For the record, I would not know T Rue if he was sitting opposite me right now!

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Yes and the excuse was he hung in and hit a wheel. Brett Hutchings one of the driver's dislodged look's like being out for a long time suspected broken shoulder from it, scans will reveal all on Tuesday.

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Looks like I need to give you a hint..........I think the driver on the leader fell asleep!!!!!

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It looked like Greg was thinking about the taste of his first beer after the race, about the same time as his horse started to daydream and drift off the track. Sugars then fully focussed on getting his horses mind back on the job and straighten him up, totally unaware Madam Pom Pom was making her move. Just proves it can happen to the best of them. Judgement...asleep at the wheel.

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It looked like Greg was thinking about the taste of his first beer after the race, about the same time as his horse started to daydream and drift off the track. Sugars then fully focussed on getting his horses mind back on the job and straighten him up, totally unaware Madam Pom Pom was making her move. Just proves it can happen to the best of them. Judgement...asleep at the wheel.

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Absolutely, spot on! Stewards, never mentioned it in their report. Consistency, by stewards would be appreciated also!

Consistency is a word foreign to most panels of stewards, but as Brenno has pointed out in the past, how often is the final race of the day very light on in substance in the stewards reports. Are they all that much in a hurry to get home?