Miracle Mile 2014

You guys are giving "The Board" too much credit. It's mostly made up of the same hacks that ran Harold Park into the ground. Any drama or intrigue is by accident not design. They'd be out of a job if it not for the 100+ Million from Mirvac.

It's a great shame that Sam is no longer involved. He unfortunately got bogged down in the shit storm he inherited. With him out of the way, the industry has gone back to the future. Only this time it's not just Harold Park / Menangle to screw up. They're Property Moguls now. A new string to their bow. Fingers crossed with that.

I was out at Menangle on Saturday night. A 3 hour return trip from Metropolitan Glebe, Sydney to the provincials. Anyone who was coming was there before the weather turned. Free entry and it was a poor turnout. They're losing the Interdominion which leaves them the Miracle Mile. I assume they'll charge an entry free that night ? A once a year gate. Those Pokies must be sucking the locals in good and proper.

I'm only getting warmed up Richard. Terror To Love is next : )

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Originally Posted by Maorisidol

Keystone Del nominated for FFA at Melton $20500...

Cordina will be an intriguing first 400m with tons of speed...Bettor Bet Black maybe fastest off the arm???

Thanks, makes sense as to ehy not @ Menangle & he has a busy season ahead of him contesting Victorian features so good to get him to Vic this early to settle in

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Originally Posted by HaroldParker

You guys are giving "The Board" too much credit. It's mostly made up of the same hacks that ran Harold Park into the ground. Any drama or intrigue is by accident not design. They'd be out of a job if it not for the 100+ Million from Mirvac.

It's a great shame that Sam is no longer involved. He unfortunately got bogged down in the shit storm he inherited. With him out of the way, the industry has gone back to the future. Only this time it's not just Harold Park / Menangle to screw up. They're Property Moguls now. A new string to their bow. Fingers crossed with that.

I was out at Menangle on Saturday night. A 3 hour return trip from Metropolitan Glebe, Sydney to the provincials. Anyone who was coming was there before the weather turned. Free entry and it was a poor turnout. They're losing the Interdominion which leaves them the Miracle Mile. I assume they'll charge an entry free that night ? A once a year gate. Those Pokies must be sucking the locals in good and proper.

I'm only getting warmed up Richard. Terror To Love is next : )

I hear you Bob

I once posted this

I will try and keep 'on thread' as I fear this may be more a topic for a separate thread
If we are to be customer focussed we must listen to their concerns but if you read the report that this thread is about it addresses the fact that the customers need horses to bet on
I see owners as customers too really
Don't you think that the 'awareness, attendance & interest' that you list as critical is fostered my country towns all around the country having locals involved. Don't most of the big pros start off as small hics even in the gallopers. The next pro like Cramp or Weir can come from anywhere. I really fear we have too many eggs in the Melton and Menangle baskets because if we think centralization is the answer well they are not even Melbourne and Sydney suburbs. Do you think they are the answer Mitch?

If you read either of Ray Chaplin's reports that I have linked on this and other threads you will see it is a much bigger problem than the punting dollar. My thread from a couple of months back about how we get more of the punting $ ended up showing that (I believe) and if you read some of the post by Danno and co. I think it answers your pro v hobbyist question too Mitch

I posted it in the thread
http://www.harnessracingforum.com/sh...ry-sport/page2
Which was about Ray Chaplin's report

We should both probably be posting in that thread not this one about the MM

Terror To Love was invited by default. I had the nights racing on IQ and watched the interview with Christensen waffling on about the conditions and how they could only invite horses that raced in NZ or WA or had won the CCA or Newcastle Mile etc Waffle Waffle and more Waffle. Adore Me dissed them. I assume Franco Nelson did the same ?

I don't think it's in the conditions but in the mind of the Directors, there needs to be 2 horses from NZ to make it a truly "International" race. If TTL had dissed them, they would have checked in on Monkey King. It's only been 3 years :)

Suave Stuey has his work cut out for him on Saturday. There's more speed to his inside there than he'd face in 2 Miracle Miles. If Bettor Bet Black doesn't cross Devil Dodger very early, which gives BBB some hope of finding the fence, Lauren will be posted until at least the 1/4, perhaps further. Of course if BBB does cross the 2-1 will look very good Stuey turning out of the straight the first time. I'll be playing around Punt and to a lesser extent King to win a little if one places or a lot if one wins.

If Stuey doesn't win on Saturday night and Franco Nelson didn't diss them, I wouldn't be surprised if the latter gets the final invite after Guaranteed and the Cordina winner get theirs. It's stacked against the locals and despite her detractors, mostly because of one unfortunate accident, Lauren Panella is the best thing the industry here has going for it, from the outside looking in. She interviews well, I find her to be very professional on and off the track and she's giving it to the Boys.

I remember reading the report a few months ago Kevin and I agreed with nearly everything in it. The Truer is gonski, what's next for Bankstown ? Penrith is virtually invisible and the support card for Newcastle a few weeks ago was disappointing, what support ?

I have as much confidence in Anderson and Co down there as I do with those up here.

I have clients in Perth. It's a good excuse to get to Gloucester Park a few times a year. Chalk and cheese. I do try and get there for a feature night but even so, it's a more vibrant, younger and knowledgeable crowd, yes a crowd. You have to laugh to when you hear rusted on Eastern State wags telling WA what they should do.

Back to the Miracle Mile, rant over :)

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Originally Posted by MJD

Thanks, makes sense as to ehy not @ Menangle & he has a busy season ahead of him contesting Victorian features so good to get him to Vic this early to settle in

Hi Matthew, Nicole Molander has purchased property in Victoria & is moving there.

Here's what Shane has to say about the MM invitations! He is spot on!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/miracle-mile-2014-shane-tritton-confused-at-suave-stuey-lombos-route-to-miracle-mile/story-fni2gg7e-1227126166520

Mr Dunn said, "Franco Nelson was passed over for a Miracle Mile invite at the expense of Terror To Love, who got the second Kiwi invite to next week’s A$750,000 race, even though Franco Nelson beat him twice last week".

So as Bob said they need 2 from NZ (international), I reckon Guaranteed will get his invite, & then 1st & 2nd from the Cordina.

Your probably right Trish, the MM is just becoming a "celebrity" event! Without a Victorian starter it would not have the glamour effect they are after! If Guaranteed was the great stayer that he is made to be, why didn't Gavin Lang persist with keeping the death seat when he had Beautide trapped out their 3 wide in CCA last Saturday (it was a Group 1 event!......he would have made himself a certain starter in the MM by winning. Are there deals being done in the background? If Beautide draws inside Guaranteed in MM, I can't see him beating him on ability! Interestingly, they did not beat the 1:50.1 that Stuey has run at 2 of his 3 latest wins at Menangle! And no-one has beaten Stuey's 1:49.237 in a trial at Menangle in September, in recent times!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2ipZXdCMAA-bHg.jpg:large

I have been watching a few peoples twitter's this week & Greg Hayes put up the conditions & HRNSW have not broken any rules this year.

Maybe if they are going to give "invites" out why have qualifying lead ups???

I hope the races lives up to the pre-race hype!

Been going on for as long as I can remember Kevin

.http://www.harnesslink.com/Internati...-on-the-cards-

Lots of intrigue with both races Kev, Saturday nights race shapes to be a cracker with a couple of highy fancied horses drawn wide, The inside horses will come out humming and it will be very interesting to see what tactics young Lauren adopts, Maybe she won't fire SSL off the gate but sit back and take a position and then come around when everything's settled, Pretty sure that a few of the other drivers will be looking around for SSL and Lauren if he's not driven out of the gate, Very interesting stuff.

Yes, the rules are quite clear! Some may think that For A Reason, has gotten in on a technicality, due to "travel", he is now probably back at Cobbitty, relaxing in his spa bath,...... waiting for his MM run? So it is all up to the Cordina Sprint this week! It will be most unfortunate if Menangle's fastest horse does not get a run! A consolation as a reserve won't count if no run eventuates!

The post from Trish is interesting re: field size, minimum of 6 and a maximum of 8 plus 2 reserves........ They wouldn't go with 6 or 7 starters would they? :D

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Originally Posted by Richard prior

Lots of intrigue with both races Kev, Saturday nights race shapes to be a cracker with a couple of highy fancied horses drawn wide, The inside horses will come out humming and it will be very interesting to see what tactics young Lauren adopts, Maybe she won't fire SSL off the gate but sit back and take a position and then come around when everything's settled, Pretty sure that a few of the other drivers will be looking around for SSL and Lauren if he's not driven out of the gate, Very interesting stuff.

I would be highly surprised if SSL does not fire out of the gate and continue for the lead for whatever distance is required to get the lead!.............there is really no other option!......you might see a 1st quarter in the low 25's!

Am I allowed to put peoples twitter thingies on, anyone know???? I guess they make it public though don't they.

Ross Lyon, Ken Hinkley "Anyone, anywhere, anytime"

SSL can do it. As I've said before, don't let the traditional poor record of the Cordina fool you.

Stuey raced 3 weeks in a row in QLD

He can lead and win this week and do the same next week.

I don't think anybody should be begruding the current invites.

The rules are clear cut. They've been applied appropriately.

If Stuey has to win a lead up to get his place so be it. Better position to be in than having too many invites and something running an unlucky 2nd or 3rd and NSWHRC having no wiggle room to get them in. Imagine the uproar if there was only one spot left coming into this week and Bling It On runs 2nd a nose after copping interference (touchwood he doesn't cop interference). NSWHRC have to protect themselves and give some wiggle room.

For this non issue to get so much airplay is ridiculous.
http://static1.holidayextras.com/ima...rying-baby.jpg

I thought we are just having a discussion, I don't think anyone is getting too worked up after all none of us will need to have a speach organised. :D

This made me laugh.

Gareth Hall @ghall27 · 13h 13 hours ago
Trots - I am that confident Beautide will win the Miracle Mile I will do a challenge on the gig which can be set by the best tweet

https://twitter.com/ghall27/status/534301565192896512

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Originally Posted by Race For Fun

The post from Trish is interesting re: field size, minimum of 6 and a maximum of 8 plus 2 reserves........ They wouldn't go with 6 or 7 starters would they? :D

Yes 6 starters only, but the reserves go in the draw for a barrier, just in case they get a run!

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Originally Posted by aussiebreno

Ross Lyon, Ken Hinkley "Anyone, anywhere, anytime"

SSL can do it. As I've said before, don't let the traditional poor record of the Cordina fool you.

Stuey raced 3 weeks in a row in QLD

He can lead and win this week and do the same next week.

I don't think anybody should be begruding the current invites.

The rules are clear cut. They've been applied appropriately.

If Stuey has to win a lead up to get his place so be it. Better position to be in than having too many invites and something running an unlucky 2nd or 3rd and NSWHRC having no wiggle room to get them in. Imagine the uproar if there was only one spot left coming into this week and Bling It On runs 2nd a nose after copping interference (touchwood he doesn't cop interference). NSWHRC have to protect themselves and give some wiggle room.

For this non issue to get so much airplay is ridiculous.
http://static1.holidayextras.com/ima...rying-baby.jpg

What would you like to talk about?...........The Methodology of Division 7A calculations and loopholes?

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Originally Posted by The Form Student

What would you like to talk about?...........The Methodology of Division 7A calculations and loopholes?

LOL! No thanks. I guess another 5 pages of SSL whinging doesn't seem so bad after all...

Unfortunately, poor SSL is a victim of his own circumstances! But as the fastest horse around Menangle since Smoken Up set the track record.....I really hope he gets a run! That's it from me!.....until after the Cordina! :)

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Originally Posted by The Form Student

What would you like to talk about?...........The Methodology of Division 7A calculations and loopholes?

hey kev...
as a former educator can you explain to the masses what this guy's talkin' about at all??!!!

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Originally Posted by teecee

hey kev...
as a former educator can you explain to the masses what this guy's talkin' about at all??!!!

If you were an accountant you would know!......obviously, Brendan saw the funny side to it!

Or if you had a company, and you were giving yourself some extra money to spend!

I think Kev has got Gout from eating those lobsters you caught the other day! lol!

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Originally Posted by The Form Student

Yes 6 starters only, but the reserves go in the draw for a barrier, just in case they get a run!

Think that there have been 8 starters plus 2 reserves for a few years. But rules say minimum of 6 maximum of 8 plus 2 reserves. Which means that they have the option as to how many starters they have.

Just reading the rules that Trish posted.

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Originally Posted by Race For Fun

Think that there have been 8 starters plus 2 reserves for a few years. But rules say minimum of 6 maximum of 8 plus 2 reserves. Which means that they have the option as to how many starters they have.

Just reading the rules that Trish posted.

Sorry. you are right, they usually go with 8, but what I mean't was they could go with 6 or 7, if they chose to!

If SSL was trained by anyone other than ST would already be in much more exciting than TTL

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Originally Posted by Pena

If SSL was trained by anyone other than ST would already be in much more exciting than TTL

Jack, that's not correct, I want SSL in the MM more than any other runner............he just hasn't met the criteria yet! Why has ST got to do with him not getting a run yet?

If NSWHRC/HRNSW were going to play stupid games like that against Tritton, wouldn't they do it against McCarthy as well? Taking FAR to NZ weakens the local NSW lead up races.

HRNSW releases details of the Retention Barn requirements for MM!

http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=24978

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Originally Posted by The Form Student

Sorry. you are right, they usually go with 8, but what I mean't was they could go with 6 or 7, if they chose to!

I would almost prefer a field of 6
Anything other than a lightning beginner has little chance of winning from 7 or 8 unless they are in the Beautide/Quinny class
Take the Cordina (admittedly a field of 10) but what chance has Abettorpunt got coming from 10
Over 2300m then we are talking a fair race

I would prefer a 6 horse field but they may as well get rid of that clause. There's been plenty opportunity to go with a 6 or 7 horse field and they haven't.

If Beautide can lead somehow, and retain the lead, what will his chances be as opposed to taking a trail? Or do the majority think he can death seat and be to good? I don't think he should be as short as he is IMO.

Unbeatable!

A bit more.....................http://www.theherald.com.au/story/27...invite/?cs=306

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Where's our invite? Checked mail 3 times today...gas bill and junk mail.

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Originally Posted by Smoken

If Beautide can lead somehow, and retain the lead, what will his chances be as opposed to taking a trail? Or do the majority think he can death seat and be to good? I don't think he should be as short as he is IMO.

He can lead for sure if the draw goes his way. The mobile barrier goes a whole lot quicker for the MM. It's all hypotheticals, but if he leads next week he'll win by as far as C Cullen did!