David Thorn....1 winner in the past month!!!

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Originally Posted by Triple V

I think it is now rather timely to note that the person who started this thread & all those who saw fit to pile on afterwards have as yet not been able to find it within themselves to revisit it & then acknowleged the fact that since the 14th of January, David has had 28 starters @ Menangle for no less than 10 winners and 9 placegetters (and this including instances where he has had 2 starters in the same event)
On that score, Michael Muscat driving as well as ever. Onya Mick! Impending married life is obviously doing you the world of good. ;)

Part of your post is very inaccurate.......
You should know which part.
Lets just say you probably wont find the answer on the internet.

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Originally Posted by Triple V

I stand by those comments Jett however I think you've somewhat misrepresented what I said.
In terms of effectiveness I believe and have always believed that Pre Race testing...be it on the back of a 1hr or 2hrs pre race arrival, is largely a waste of time because it tends only to catch the needy, the greedy, the sloppy & occasionally, though I hesitate to use the term, the 'unlucky'.
It would no doubt be harder to beat the 2hrs pre race arrival than it would be to beat the 1hr requirement...no question, but from what I have read about & learned of the subject, IMO it is certainly not an impossibility.
On the other hand it is absolutely 100% stone cold impossible to beat a 2hrs Post Race TCO2 test. There's not a pre race buffer substance on this earth that would be effective come race time but unable to detected up to 2hrs afterwards.
In closing, there's not a lot of point in quoting the views of Snr. Stewards to me because, having banged away at this subject for more years than I care to remember I've found that, with one or two very notable exceptions, they tend to have a pretty sizeable knowledge vacuum as far as this subject is concerned.
It was not all that many years ago when I raised the subject of Post Race TC02 testing with a former Snr. Steward here in NSW that he looked at me rather blankly for a moment or two and then said..."Can they do that?".

Hi Jamie, I've not researched the topic. I've just highlighted what others have inferred in terms of co incidences around arrival times and changes in local trainers success. Thanks for the information. Cheers,

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Originally Posted by spurbuck

Jett, people like you amuse me!
David has had prior to the last few weeks had a very ordinary bunch of horses in work and also had some time off himself. Now he has had his stable replenished with better horses coming back from the paddock.
But of course that wouldn't have anything to do with it would it!?!?!

Hi Tom,
Can you please be more specific. Which horses are very ordinary and which are the other? David has shown in the past to be very skillful at improving all horses and so why now do you suggest that he needs better horses to win races?
If you want to talk about it then I think that David is another with an amazing rise to ascendancy. Just take a look at a few of the Metro trainers ladder. In Season 09/10 David doesn't get a mention. He then top scores in season 10/11 with 39 1sts and currently has 7 1sts in season 11/12.
It would be interesting to see how many of his horses of season 09/10 made up his season 10/11. Did David have a full stable of horses in season 09/10 or did he get married then too? What changed?
http://www.harness.org.au/nsw-premie...ason_name=1112

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Originally Posted by racefair

Hi Jamie, I've not researched the topic. I've just highlighted what others have inferred in terms of co incidences around arrival times and changes in local trainers success. Thanks for the information. Cheers,

[VVV] G'day Jett. I'd like to see Stewards get on the front foot, I'd like to see them being much more open/upfront/direct about this and other testing procedures/protocols. I think there's a little too much of the Undercover Elephant about it in the sense that the way arrivals and so on have been changed around, to me it kind of feels more like a Policeman jumping out from behind a Bus Shelter with a hand held radar gun. I just don't know why they don't come straight out with it and say that this is what we're doing, this is why and you've all been warned so fall foul of it and be prepared for the consequences. The cloak & dagger stuff just leads to more speculation & rumour. They could stop it all dead in its tracks if maybe they took a slightly different approach.