Bitobliss Vs ITMQ

BOB for me. Always forgive a good horse one bad run.

Trying to work out who will lead in the Vic Cup. The kiwi's on the front line are the unknown here.
Anyone with more knowledge help me here. Who leads after 200,400 and 600m before the moves start?
There are a few who could but do they want to after what we saw last week, must be able to withstand plenty of pressure.

Bailey I am real knob (not nob) at speed maps...you put so much thought into how it will pan out, punt accordingly then watch it all turn to crap. Disclaimer now invoked. 'The' Gold Ace WILL lead, Mah Sish will take the trail, Terrorway and IMTQ will take sits but probably float back through the field as Smoken Up comes around. The Biggest ??? is what will they do with Bliss. They learnt a bit from last week when out of his comfort zone. I am thinking they will still go forward. Gold Ace has great form when leading, won the Gold Nugget over 2500 at GP last year leading it and recently knocked over Terror To Love in the NZ metro again leading, so he wont be handing up so easy but there is no way Lance is going change his mind.

Where does this leave us? The lead could be the poison chalice in this race if they don't back it off. For that reason, my top three are IMTQ, Washakie and Terrorway over the top of them, with Bliss still in there somewhere (if he is alright). People will be shaking their heads reading this. Can you imagine leaving horses like Melpark Major, Sushi and Carribean Blaster and SU out? Well you can only run 1, 2, or 3 and theres 13 of 'em. Will be cheering loudly if Trigger is still in front with 50 to go though bit different this year from 13, last year the pole, would be a task not many could achieve.

Thanks Brad, as you say " The lead could be the poison chalice in this race". I see 3 go forward horses, Smoken Up,Washakie and Pembroke Benny not to mention Terrorway who may also go forward early. The leader could be under more pressure than Julia

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Originally Posted by broncobrad

Bailey I am real knob (not nob) at speed maps...you put so much thought into how it will pan out, punt accordingly then watch it all turn to crap. Disclaimer now invoked. 'The' Gold Ace WILL lead, Mah Sish will take the trail, Terrorway and IMTQ will take sits but probably float back through the field as Smoken Up comes around. The Biggest ??? is what will they do with Bliss. They learnt a bit from last week when out of his comfort zone. I am thinking they will still go forward. Gold Ace has great form when leading, won the Gold Nugget over 2500 at GP last year leading it and recently knocked over Terror To Love in the NZ metro again leading, so he wont be handing up so easy but there is no way Lance is going change his mind.

Where does this leave us? The lead could be the poison chalice in this race if they don't back it off. For that reason, my top three are IMTQ, Washakie and Terrorway over the top of them, with Bliss still in there somewhere (if he is alright). People will be shaking their heads reading this. Can you imagine leaving horses like Melpark Major, Sushi and Carribean Blaster and SU out? Well you can only run 1, 2, or 3 and theres 13 of 'em. Will be cheering loudly if Trigger is still in front with 50 to go though bit different this year from 13, last year the pole, would be a task not many could achieve.

Brad did you check out where the release point was in the NZ FFA? Turned the race into a bit of a farce. I still like The Gold Ace though. And remember the owners knocked back $1m for him last year. Ironically from the owners of ITMQ.

http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=19491
There was one last jibe from Smoken Up’s master-trainer heading into the Group 1 contest. “There’s going to be no excuses from the horses that have drawn well, hopefully they’re not sick this year or they’re not off colour,” Justice said. “They’ve got the greatest excuse book under the sun some of them but if we’re not good enough we’re not good enough, that’s the way it is.”

Go Lance! Absolutely toooo true!

Son tells me on show called "Chasing and Pacing" tonite on Sky2 G. Hall Jnr said sumfin like "If we took a sit in Miracle Mile we probably beat Smoken Up".

Hello??? He did take a sit. Couldn't get past him.

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Originally Posted by Toohard

http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=19491
There was one last jibe from Smoken Up’s master-trainer heading into the Group 1 contest. “There’s going to be no excuses from the horses that have drawn well, hopefully they’re not sick this year or they’re not off colour,” Justice said. “They’ve got the greatest excuse book under the sun some of them but if we’re not good enough we’re not good enough, that’s the way it is.”

Go Lance! Absolutely toooo true!

Son tells me on show called "Chasing and Pacing" tonite on Sky2 G. Hall Jnr said sumfin like "If we took a sit in Miracle Mile we probably beat Smoken Up".

Hello??? He did take a sit. Couldn't get past him.

She's going to be a long and solemn trip home Sat night! :p

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Originally Posted by Lucky Camilla"s Lovechild

Brad did you check out where the release point was in the NZ FFA? Turned the race into a bit of a farce. I still like The Gold Ace though. And remember the owners knocked back $1m for him last year. Ironically from the owners of ITMQ.

Yes Leigh, Gold Ace certainly benefitted from that atrocious positioning of the start on the corner and led easily, still TTL was there at the right time and had his chance. Just saying he has got form to take advantage of a good barrier position.

On the "war of words" between Lance and GH Snr, it reads a bit like a movie script (the one that comes to mind being Sea Biscuit, the East Coast of America versus the West Coast complete with barbs and slurs). I don't think either horse deserves the put downs, they both have magnificent records and have completely opposing racing patterns. I hope a few forum users took the time to look at Smoken Ups fast lap. When the starter says go on Sat night all that rhetoric will be out the door and it will just be the drivers and their horses and the track and getting the business done...the last thing on their minds will be what we all think.

The more I think about the race, the more I warm to IMTQ (sorry Toohard) and Terrorway

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Originally Posted by aussiebreno

She's going to be a long and solemn trip home Sat night! :p

:D:D
There'll be no sookin from us!

We'll just be happy to be there and to have witnessed what should be one of the best races for years. Weather forecast not looking good. Bring a brolly!!

"LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!"

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Originally Posted by broncobrad

Yes Leigh, Gold Ace certainly benefitted from that atrocious positioning of the start on the corner and led easily, still TTL was there at the right time and had his chance. Just saying he has got form to take advantage of a good barrier position.

On the "war of words" between Lance and GH Snr, it reads a bit like a movie script (the one that comes to mind being Sea Biscuit, the East Coast of America versus the West Coast complete with barbs and slurs). I don't think either horse deserves the put downs, they both have magnificent records and have completely opposing racing patterns. I hope a few forum users took the time to look at Smoken Ups fast lap. When the starter says go on Sat night all that rhetoric will be out the door and it will just be the drivers and their horses and the track and getting the business done...the last thing on their minds will be what we all think.

The more I think about the race, the more I warm to IMTQ (sorry Toohard) and Terrorway

Well said Brad, Harness racing needs Lance for his sometimes outlandish remarks, how much good media has this race been given, all for free.

On your selections, does John McCarthy getting off Terrorway from such a good draw worry you?