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By the way, can I make a suggestion? That crappy plasma TV on the wall there out at Menangle & the DVD/set top box or whatever that's connected to it for replays. How about getting someone to spring for one with massively better resolution than that? The freeze frame on it is very grainy & unclear.
I do not think we are poles apart my basic point was its not in the rules and was removed by the rule makers if it or any other rule goes in the stewards should use it and in 99.9% of cases I think they do in NSW at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
That's where it comes down to interpretation VOR.
For example. I have detailed prior knowledge of the birth, formation and institution of the change of tactics rule and it was at no stage ever designed nor intended to be used to aim up on individual drives.
It was conceived wholly and solely to be aimed at breaking up the ability of stables with multiple starters in a given race to work in together to achieve a result.
Unfortunately it has been interpreted otherwise, had it's horizons significantly expanded & it has been duly enforced on that basis, and in my opinon, so very, very wrongly & inappropriately in so many, many instances.
As for Set-back/Relegation/Disqualification (call it what you will) in response to interference...they are all essentially the same thing and they're all intended to achieve the same thing despite coming at the problem from slightly differing angles & having outcomes ranging from just dropping a few places to being booted from the race altogether.
You know that full well just as I do and as anyone else does.
Despite those options being readily available, the continued demonstrated reluctance of not just NSW Stewards but Australian Stewards in general to relegate/set-back/disqualify has me greatly perplexed.
Basically, as far as the above 2 rules are concerned the Stewards emphasis is all about spoon feeding the imbeciles who can't do the form properly and/or not upsetting the Punters who have backed the first horse past the post only to have it taken down afterwards.
I'm certain this is a 'for crying out loud don't let your decisions impinge on our business' policy which comes down the line to us from its inital birthplace, the various TAB organisations.
I am once again certain that it comes at the very significant expense of the Participants who's driver has made a change, in their opinion, for the better or who's horses has suffered the interference. Ridiculous.
You'll sometimes hear of the 'seperation of Powers'...of the 'seperation of Church & State' an idea which was originally championed by the great Thomas Jefferson, and which in it's original form read "the wall of separation between church and state,". I am for a third time certain that we, in Harness Racing, do not have such a seperation of Powers between the TAB's & the Stewards. Indirectly, you ultimately do their bidding by way of enforcing such rules in the manner in which you enforce them.
Clearly, when you think about it, BOTH of these rules are nothing short of furiously pee-ing in the Punters pocket focussed. Neither of them are of any benefit, be it active or tacit, as far as honest participants are concerned because neither serve to look after their interests.
Instead, BOTH of those rules now actively work to serve them trussed up & with apple in mouth, upon the alter dedicated to the wagering Gods of Pyrmont & their associates.
In closing, what's your excuse for being up at 3am? Mine's a head-ache and a 6yo daughter with the flu. :(
A bit off topic, but an example where the relegation rule has been used, no matter how high profile the race or horse...
http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolu...s/?a=44518&z=1
On another note, for the other mare to run her to a head, perhaps something is bothering her. I was dieing for Peelers to go to the Jug, but I guess two defeats in a row sees those chances slimming by the minute!!
Unfortunately she's definitely not going to The Jug now Flashing. Jimmy Takter has confirmed that today.
No excuse for being up at 3 am I only just got home.
Geeze, I know that feeling. Got home at around 4am? Saturday morning and (I think?) 4:45am Sunday morning. It's all a bit of a blurr. Caffiene is a dear friend. Red Bull, Mother, Coca Cola, Coffee, Tiramasu...whatever, ship it in. Gimme Gimme Gimme.
On a more general and on topic note, overall (with one or two exceptions:p) the recent NSW Stewards Reports are soooooo much better than they were in the past when I'd see a worthy of mention incident on the track and there'd be nothing...or if there was it would be a write up that bore no resemblance whatsoever to what actually happened. Old mate 'Armani Suit' was well on his way to becoming in/famous for them.
Its a touch ironic I was also on another thread talking about stewards reports where yet again I found myself sticking up tor them the stewards.
I once overheard c conversation between a Trainer in NSW where he was challenging the stewards over the way they had reported an incident from the previous weeks meeting at HP the steward politely explained how they had seen the incident to which the trainer retorted " well you must have been looking at a different film to me"
The steward smiled and replied "well yes in actual fact we were we had four different angles you only had one"
I think we sometimes forget that many things we think we see on the replay may not be exactly as the seem when viewed on a head on.
It is nearly impossible to form an accurate view of horses shifting up the track from the side on perspective that is why it has been policy of both the GHRRA and HRNSW to get head on video coverage at all tracks in NSW.
I did not spend much time reading the previously mentioned reports so do not really have a view other than to say he has written his last.
You know VOR, it wouldn't do anyone any harm for HRNSW to use Trots TV to load up the patrol footage that you guys get to see as well as the normal race angles footage.