It is almost 6mths away but the TAB have put out pre-nom markets
They must be a winner for them or they have too much time on their hands
https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2022-1...)?futures=true
https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2022-1...)?futures=true
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It is almost 6mths away but the TAB have put out pre-nom markets
They must be a winner for them or they have too much time on their hands
https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2022-1...)?futures=true
https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2022-1...)?futures=true
They frame a market because it is too cold for two flies to be crawling up a wall. Only the truly desperate would be betting on some of these. $8 for Lochinvar Art looks a bargain, except there are still very real doubts about his soundness. Australasia's most consistent pacer Self Assured looks an absolute good bet at the same odds. Problem: The ID starts on 10 December while NZ Trotting Cup is run just a month earlier and is has higher stakes. Three days later is the NZ FFA is worth another $200K - how many Kiwi horses will by-pass these to come to Melbourne? Self Assured is already most likely to stay home and Copy That is another on the comeback trail.
Soho Tribeca at $31 during the stud season anyone? He's trilled OK twice but will be 10 and has not raced for three years, only once in the last 4 years. $1.50 Louie Fly, $4 Buzz The Blowie look better value at this stage. Proof that some people will bet on anything.
Sorry your dates are incorrect, the Interdom Grand Final is on Sat 10 Dec 2022 (Melton) with qualifying heats as follows:
Sat 26 Nov 2022 (Ballarat)
Tues 29 Nov 2022 (Shepparton)
Sat 3 Dec 2022 (Geelong)
Although your point about NZ horses coming to race here makes perfect sense.
However, this has also been the case for the last few years
And it is all very well framing a market, but the conditions of the racing have not yet been published ......
My mistake, the scheduling of the series only serves to weaken the both the ID and, possibly, the NZ Cup. The early market reminds me of the great folly last year. I wonder how many wagers were taken on Ride High up to final acceptances?
New ranking system revealed for Victoria's 2022 Inter Dominion
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...nter-dominion/
a) Winners of any Australian or New Zealand Grand Circuit race
It does not stipulate how far back in history we can go, it would appear that a horse that won a GC race 3yrs ago and not raced since would be near the top of the rankings :confused:
As predicted Soho Tribeca's comeback was short lived. Back to stud for you lover boy!
http://https://www.thetrots.com.au/n...-back-to-stud/
Everybody seems to think they have a horse good enough for the Inter
Giveitatry wins its first metro race and they are talking Inter
Mind you he did beat Arggghhh, who after winning last week, had connections talking Inter (Arggghhh has won more than a couple of metros)
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...-rolling-wave/
With another golden ticket into the Interdom, The Minuteman FFA has given us a magnificent field even with the scratching of Rock N Roll Doo
8/11 runners have some sort of chance
Honolua blitzs them again
The amazing thing about Emma Stewart horses is how they string so many wins together
It is normally very hard to notch up a hattrick but she does multiple hattricks
A massive component of multiple hattricks is of course the drivers. They have to be consistently good or else the run ends
The run ended for Honolulu tonight as much as anything due to Mark Pitt thinking he had to leave the 1x1 to sit in the death
I could see tonight one of the reasons horses run for him - he must weigh next to nothing, I reckon I would have weighed more in primary school and I was a skinny kid!
Aaron Dunn talking about Bondi not contesting the Inter
“From my base in Horsham it’s a lot of travel getting around to the heats throughout various parts of Victoria, but all going well we will definitely be in Brisbane to contest the series next year,” he said.
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...vic-cup-looms/
It is a genuine consideration and I think Shep may be a stretch too far
IMO Bendigo may have been a better option
I know the Inter has traditionally be a test of toughness but maybe another week instead of the midweek heats would be kinder to horses and trainers
What are the facilities like at Shep nowadays - the Interdom promo has a picture of a BBQ for Shep :confused:
https://www.thetrots.com.au/id22/
Final noms are due out any minute
The noms
Is last year's winner the worst of them?
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...championships/
I would be most surprised if last year's winner fronts up.
You are probably right (personally I don't take much notice of the pictures) but having said that dining in the winning post room at Shep is booked out. Personally I think the marquee at $100 for a 2 course buffet is way overpriced (as are most of the Melton options). Ballarat dining options are pretty fair and much closer to what they charge for normal meetings. Geelong charges aren't bad either.
Now the noms have been ranked
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...-race-to-id22/
LOL at numero uno
Somewhat of a correction Honolua Bay now into $17. (Magnificent Storm also into $21)
It is an interesting market Brendan
Fav Rock N Roll Doo = $4.50, the stable have said he is not running
2nd Fav Expensive Ego = $6.50, has not been in form and has not won a Gp1 since May 1, 2021
Even being conservative, that’s four of the top six or eight horses in this part of the world already missing from the Inter Dominion pacing series.
That’s disappointing and unthinkable in years gone by.
It simply cannot continue.
Before we talk about possible solutions, why is this happening?
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the...nter-dominion/
Act Now reminding everyone why many rated him Austs best 3yo . Possibly his best win at this top level as he didnt just get to use his gate speed. Showed plenty of ticker down the straight. TAB asleep and $51 still available.
This is ridiculous that Act Now is still $51 with TAB.
12 months ago Act Now won the Breeders Crown at $2.25 while Rock N Roll Doo started $126 in the race. A month before that in the Derby Act Now win with Rock n Roll Doo finishing last.
Act Now was a little disappointing in his Menangle runs but he has shown he is back. The market last week only had him narrowly higher priced than Better Eclipse. Better Eclipse $10 for Inter but Act Now $51.
Mid post I've just checked other agencies and Ladbrokes have him $15 and Sportsbet $11. So clearly that price reflects the true form. The crux of the issue may be nobody is paying attention and/or betting into these markets.
The promotion immediately sparked an investigation from Liquor and Gaming NSW to determine if Betr was illegally inducing people to gamble.
Liquor and Gaming may come looking for you Brendan :D
The last statement must be true as everything being computer driven would spark a reduction
(I will check with my insider when he comes home from taking my granddaughter swimming)
My gallops insiders have always teased me that we are irrelevant - is this further proof?
From someone who does it for a living - they would be monitored so nobody is betting into these markets or on this horse
If you think he is going to stay in the race and you think he will be a contender, you had better snap it up so that you can lay him at half the odds and make 50% on your money ;)
Gallops market would have changed within 5 minutes.
Obviously my betting budget with a mortgage and wife wasn't enough to make a dent haha! I've reshuffled the budget and imposed a self ban for a while and upped my stake...I think we will see a change in the market soon. The important thing is he has went from ranked well down the bottom to ranked 28 so is all but guaranteed a spot in the heats now.
As you said, lay off opportunity exists.
Into $41 now
This is the top of the TAB's Inter market
Ridiculous
Those win odds should be round about their place odds at this early stage!
Have I missed an announcement that Rock N Roll Doo is going to contest the Inter?
Act Now into $26
Last week everybody doing the staying form to see who can stay 3200m for the Melb Cup and this week for the NZ Cup.
Which is interesting for the ID. How many days since Act Now lost a race that was longer than 1720m? 616 days. 8/8 in that time winning over distances from 2180m to 2690m. Compared to 1/9 over the short trip.
Surely for their domination of everything else Stewart team is due an ID!
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/the...iggest-prizes/
Hamilton gives Majestic Cruiser the kiss of death. Found his comments re Honolua Bay interesting as well. I don't think any of Emma Stewarts stable have ever been accused of not being tough. Act Now can put up a quarter with the best of them but as discovered in previous post his longer distance form is actually better than his mile from. Im Themightyquinn was similar. I thought Honolua Bays Kilmore Cup run was absolutely massive and the run of the race. I don't think he will have trouble with the longer racing.
There would seem to be even less attention being paid to the Trotters market
Several scratchings are still in the 'All In' market
Majestic Harry who got a Golden Ticket in last weekend is $151 ($31 place)
while Cover Of Darkness is $21 and yet is 46 of 49 left on the rankings and I think it is still only going to be 2 heats so only 24 (not sure though)
Rankings
https://www.thetrots.com.au/id22/#rank
Announced - there will be 3 heats for trotters. This coming only 9 days before the first round, you have to say it is does not suggest there was a lot of research and planning for the ID
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...al-id22-heats/
Act Now now into $15.
Final rankings
https://www.thetrots.com.au/id22/#rank
Fields for first round of heats out tomorrow.
43 still listed, I see a couple of them listed for other races on the program. I want last ranked Fides to get up there - to give connections the option to run him. I am not sure he could see out series but with the right draw he could win on the first night