I heard that the Menangle 2300m races will be shortened to 2200m after supposed concerns raised by trainers regarding the distance being too difficult on younger horses.
Has anyone else heard whether this is accurate?
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I heard that the Menangle 2300m races will be shortened to 2200m after supposed concerns raised by trainers regarding the distance being too difficult on younger horses.
Has anyone else heard whether this is accurate?
Nah, nothing here. Usually hear stuff like that and haven't heard a word.
All the 2yo events I've seen out there have gone over the Mile anyway. Maybe they sent them over 2300m at some stage but I can't recall it happening.
If it's indeed true then my reaction is that it's a bit ridiculous to think 100m less will make any difference at all.
If they're not going to punch out the 2300m then what makes anyone think they'll magically punch out 2200m?
Yeah I will ask at the track today Triple, I was just curious as I am a little with you, not sure it will make much difference.
If they cut the 100 off the end it will help because thats where the horses tire. But 100 shorter at the start wont make any difference.
[VVV] I can see your point there however I'm not sure that I agree. I think they should take 100m out somewhere in the middle of the race if they want to make a meaningful difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtrain
lol!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
Gold VVV
I think they should have distances OTHER than 1609m and 2300m. They need a longer distance, like 2800m too.
For a 2800 they would have to start at the winning post and go 2 laps. It might be better to go 3000. That way they can start at the current 1600 where they obviously already have timing set up.
Yes, whatever the distance, I feel that they should have a distance longer than 2300m and hold 1-2 races at this distance at every meeting. I think that the mile races should be the most prominant, but also have 2300m and the longer distances too...
let me guess...fitzpatricks want the change, they'd change the track back to harold park if they could! the boys only know one way, lead- walk- sprint
taking 100m off will make a big difference... to the draw! horses from the inside will hit the turn 100m earlier and be easier to hold out horses outside them
If you find out any info about that damn timing system showing the full mile rate as they go past the post , would be appreciated too. It was several months ago that this was announced that steps were in place to have the software "tweaked". Thanks for stopping the "and change" for the decimal point of the unknown mile rate :oQuote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
Have a good day. Great weather so far.
Just watched the first at Menangle on Sky. Anyone know what the two large square metal structures are behind the advertising boards at the 200 metres and 100 metres? Are they for future giant video screens or something else?
Cheers ozi , no news on timing system but keep tuned for the distance variations....
Flashing, there have been some 3009m races but only one in the past 2 years however I believe
They would like to have a few open class pacers and trotters races over
This distance in coming months!
Thanks FH, what are the two large structures on the inside of the straight I mentioned in my last post?
Spot on Ozi, giant screens they will be!
Wow, that will be a great improvement. Thanks FH.
I would like to see a distance greater than 2300m but less than 3000m personally (most tracks have a 2700m-2800m etc distance) but I guess now I am getting picky! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
Saw on In The Gig that now the extra cost for the increased drug testing throughout NSW will no longer mean reductions in prizemoney, as was previously mooted. It's now coming out of "interest from investments" or something like that , whatever that might mean. At least some sanity prevails.
[VVV] Thinking of bringing the old boy out of retirement? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashing Red
The way I'm told he runs around his field in NZ, he probably should! He was a deadset big track horse. Sad what happened to him, Menangle would have been right up his alley. :(
Hahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
You and Double Identity at Menangle, two awesome grand circuit winners but would have been absolutely amazing at Menangle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashing Red
He sure would have LOVED that track.
I think you will find that to please everybody they will take 75 from the start and 25 from the finishQuote:
Originally Posted by triplev123
[VVV] Hahahahahaha. That's funnier than mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2minuteman
2minuteman, I hope it was not your wife or girlfriend who suggested that nickname;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 2minuteman
Hopefully as of today's meeting accurate times will
Appear on the semaphore board as they cross the
Line......no fractions to be confirmed or change......
Thanks for that Fred. I'll be glued to my TV screen this afternoon waiting to see that happen , at long last.
All the best and good calling today.
Has anyone heard anything further about reducing the 2300 metre races at Menangle to 2200 metres? I like the idea myself.
Providing they add another distance in, longer than that (but less than 2 miles) - I think it would be a great idea :)
What about 2400m jumping at the 1000m.........
Unless they are going to spend a lot of money on extra timing equipment, any start has to be where that timing already exists i.e. 400, 800, 1200, 1600, 2300 start and finishing post.
So with that in mind, you could start at the 1200 and make it a 2600m race but would require them to start on a bend. The only way to have another distance without installing new timing or starting on a bend is to have a 3000m starting at the 1600 and doing 2 laps, starting at the finishing post and going 2800m or start at the 800 and go 2200m.
Fred , I heard that they were cutting back to 2200 to make things a bit easier for younger horses in progressing from 1609 to 2300. I think 2400 would be far too much of a leap in distance if that is what they are wanting to change it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
BTW, any idea when we will see another one of those 20 horse fields over the 3009? That last trotters race that you called so well was great although it must have been a "little" bit of a nightmare to call http://www.postsmile.net/img/20/2004.gif
I know they start at the winning post at the Meadowlands, but I don't really like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbd
I think they should just spend some more money personally. They are going to build barns, upgrade the stabling facility.... why not add a new, longer distance to the track so they can race at least 3 distances like every other track in Australia.
While I love 2 mile races, I would still prefer to see the Menangle "long distance" to be shorter than that (say 2600m so they don't have to start at the turn and make their 2300m a shorter distance, whatever it turns out to be). If that means adding a new marker and timing system for it, then so be it. They have the money :)
Sorry to re-hash an oldie but I understand there will be NO 2200m start implemented at Menangle..... This is due to the short run to the first turn.
HOWEVER, watch for the Blue Riband 3yo Classics move to 2400m
Hope you had a good holiday.
Thanks Fred , it's a shame, I would have liked to have seen 2200 metre racing at Menangle.
Well, 2400 metres , that's interesting , but only for the classics and not at other times? Looks like that from your post.
While I have your attention Fred :-) is there any prospect in the near future of one of those 3009 standing start races with up to 20 starters? You called one at Menangle about a year ago , and , although am no fan of standing starts, it was one of the best spectacles I have seen in a long time. Most of the horses were on their best behaviour and the huge field turning into the long Menangle straight was some sight. Fans I know still talk about that race.
It might be an idea for Menangle to have a couple now and then and promote them and give the race some sort of special name/ good prizemoney etc. Just a thought. Any promotions that can attract attention to harness racing should be worth trying.
David, not over 3009m but this weekend a 2300m stand for trotters with 16 runners
If they had a 2200m start, how far to the first corner? Would it be shorter than any other track in NSW?Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest
Tim it would be a run of 200m to the first turn which is a longer run than some tracks but with 10 runners and the speed that may be generated I think it became a safety issue......
I disagree ( the beauty of Forums), with the 'shorter' run to first corner, those out wide makeup their mind much earlier not to burn themselves up and giving their horses more in the tank for the run home. I have found that many horses that do have the early gate speed and are usual leaders, when eased out at the start their run home times are much better than is their norm. Too many horses are trained to burn out and therefore if unable to lead, pull their heads off. That's where the skill of a true horseman comes into play.Quote:
Originally Posted by doinmabest