Where's the love gone?

Where's the love gone fella's between M.Purdon and John Curtin/The Reactor syndicate?

Why isn't Mark going to drive AR in the final should it make it (it's a given) and the great one, A.Herilihy to jump on?

I mean Mark made it known in the media he didn't want the horse to go to Perth in the original instance and wanted it to stay home and concentrate on Auckland. He claimed the horse was "tired" and yet, within the next week, was over ridden and with the horse on the plane to Perth with a seeya later alligator!

Mark's in an awkward position, if the horse was "tired" as he stated, that means he got it home from Melbourne to Christchurch, would have done nothing more than simple jog work for 3-4 days to keep him ticking over whilst resting through the day and then hasn't sighted the horse since and potentially will be crowned as 'training' an ID winner with touching it for the best part of 4 weeks!

I can't believe Mark wouldn't of at least wanted to drive it in the final, however I can't stop thinking there's no love there as Curtin came out in the article claiming AH was first pick!

Is Curtin and the syndicate dirty that Mark voiced his negativity to the horse going in the first place and then citing commitments to his team pending the Auckland carnival that begins a week later?

You can't tell me that Mark couldn't have flown there and back on the Friday/Saturday missing only the Saturday work at home with his team due to time differences? I mean after all, we are talking the ID GF, not an R10+ or better at Byford! (No offence Byford, just using the name as an example)

There's got to be more to it than just "committments" at home.

No love fellas, no love!

The ID Final is on the same night as GN Derby heats and first night of the Auckland Cup carnival.
Mark will have upwards of 20 horses racing that night. There are plenty of other driver options for the ONE drive in Perth.
Even during the will he, wont he go saga for the horse there had never been any intention of Mark going to Perth with the horse at any time. He has chosen to stay home and supervise this large team on an important night for the Payne / Purdon stable.
These are the meetings they are in business for. It's fair enough for him to look after this team and their owners when no love is lost with the AR camp. Mark has always had the FULL support from JC with whatever option he chose for both the horse and his own plans.
I'm sure when Auckland Reactor comes home he will come back to his own box at AllStars Lodge rather than any other trainer.

What, and claim that Mark trained the winner of an ID without touching it for 4 weeks! Great work if you can get it.

Against that, by your comments, what an ID GF isn't the type of meeting Mark's in business for?

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Originally Posted by Old Frank

What and claim that Mark trained the winner of an ID without touching it for 4 weeks! Great work if you can get it.
I guess I have travelled around the world caring for the horses officially trained by my employers. I got the dress rugs from the winners. They got the training wins next to their names. What's new there. IF Mr Feelgood won l MC would be the trainer while J MC did all the work.

Against that, by your comments, what an ID GF isn't the type of meeting Mark's in business for?

Of course it is but on the night you are talking One race against likely 10 - 12 races. and losing nothing on driver ability.!!!

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Originally Posted by teecee

Of course it is but on the night you are talking One race against likely 10 - 12 races. and losing nothing on driver ability.!!!

Did I touch a nerve there for you or something Tony?

Or is just your need to emphasise!!! when making your points?

And yes, you make the valid point re; Mr Feelgood (He's not going good enough in my opinion to win, although anything can happen in Finals - digressing though)

No just trying to separate the quote from reply.
I often have trouble separating the different parts of a post.

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Originally Posted by teecee

No just trying to separate the quote from reply.
I often have trouble separating the different parts of a post.

Hahaha, no probs mate. I would have thought as a 'Super Doopa' moderator though, you'd have things like that down pat!

I haven't got this from the official source, but that sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Mark's a top bloke and as far as I'm aware John feels the same.

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Originally Posted by admin

I haven't got this from the official source, but that sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Mark's a top bloke and as far as I'm aware John feels the same.

It is speculation per say Jules. It was my reading into different angles from different stories released, looking at things from a different perspective and hence asking the question so to speak. I wasn't quoting anyone's particular comments, more so inferences.

You are right - Mark is a top bloke, that is without question. His brother Barry is a champion also and one of the nicest blokes I've had the pleasure of meeting.

I'll agree to disagree with both yourself Jules and Tony's defence of the Purdon/Curtin relationship in relation to AR. All I'll say is I have my extreme doubts.

I heard a story, one which though I cannot confirm is nonetheless worth the re-telling.
Apparently Mark & Nat were at a Macca's in Canterbury when Mark noticed a life sized Ronald McDonald in the kids playground. He then said to Nat... "Hey Nat, look over there, geeze that looks like John Curtin only I reckon that Ronald's hair is holding up a lot better than John's is". It would have been all well and good, nobody would ever have known, but unfortunately the bloke whacking into a double quarter pounder meal at the next table not only overheard the comment, he was a NZ harness racing fan & he happened to be an old school mate of John's.
He duly got on the phone and told John what Mark had said. Deeply hurt by yet another unkind comparison with Ronald McDonald...and by way of seeking some level of retribution, John then asked that Tim Butt replace Mark as the driver of Auckland Reactor for duration of the WA ID Carnival.
Remember, you heard it here first. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Triple V

I heard a story, one which though I cannot confirm is nonetheless worth the re-telling.
Apparently Mark & Nat were at a Macca's in Canterbury when Mark noticed a life sized Ronald McDonald in the kids playground. He then said to Nat... "Hey Nat, look over there, geeze that looks like John Curtin only I reckon that Ronald's hair is holding up a lot better than John's is". It would have been all well and good, nobody would ever have known, but unfortunately the bloke whacking into a double quarter pounder meal at the next table not only overheard the comment, he was a NZ harness racing fan & he happened to be an old school mate of John's.
He duly got on the phone and told John what Mark had said. Deeply hurt by yet another unkind comparison with Ronald McDonald...and by way of seeking some level of retribution, John then asked that Tim Butt replace Mark as the driver of Auckland Reactor for duration of the WA ID Carnival.
Remember, you heard it here first. :rolleyes:

Geez, Tim's fatter than Anthony, if he were driving AR, 'freight would stop the train' so to speak!!

Got to admit VVV, the story is funny!

Anthony is on is he? Shows how much attention I've paid thus far. Duly scolded Nathan. Heading for the corner.

I'm also waiting for JC to revoke my flowing red cape and 'S' insignia. :rolleyes:

I now fear this may get out of hand. :rolleyes:

Well the original post was such a load of rubbish how do you expect posters to react. Nothing in the original post was factually correct. Auckland Reactor was never in Christchurch, Mark Purdon was never in NZ. Mark and John have fallen out so badly that John has put Marks brother in law up for the drive in the final. They talk about media beatups but this whole thread is the grand- daddy of all beatups. Is it a surprise who started it . NO

I struggle to find more than one fact in this post.
It is true AR wasn't in Christchurch during his short trip home. That appears to be the only fact here.

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Originally Posted by Viv Strangman

Well the original post was such a load of rubbish how do you expect posters to react. Nothing in the original post was factually correct. Auckland Reactor was never in Christchurch, Mark Purdon was never in NZ. Mark and John have fallen out so badly that John has put Marks brother in law up for the drive in the final. They talk about media beatups but this whole thread is the grand- daddy of all beatups. Is it a surprise who started it . NO

Would you like a Kleenex so you can go and have a good cry Viv?

Get over yourself you sad sack, hahahaha...

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Originally Posted by teecee

I struggle to find more than one fact in this post.
It is true AR wasn't in Christchurch during his short trip home. That appears to be the only fact here.

Read the post again. The horse went to Auckland, Mark stayed in Melbourne. Bit hard to jog the horse from there and even harder to make a judgement on his condition. Like the rest of the post it belongs in the bin

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Originally Posted by Viv Strangman

Read the post again. The horse went to Auckland, Mark stayed in Melbourne. Bit hard to jog the horse from there and even harder to make a judgement on his condition. Like the rest of the post it belongs in the bin

So the horse went to Auckland and the suppossed trainer stays in Melbourne. Only confirms Mark hasn't even run a mere hand on the horse for the entire ID campaign, nor week prior. Mark in his wisdom claimed the horse was "tired" and wanted it left at home.

Should give the trainer award to his stable lad preparing it.

Did you go through a box of Kleenex whilst reading through this thread and it's various posts Viv you sook!

Take it easy fellas. Who gives a bugger. The Final's shaping up to be a killer. That's all that matters.