What a MASSIVE WANK!

The Flying K Starts Monday

29 June 2012
by Adam Fairley


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Drivers will wear colour coded silks throughout The Flying K Series which commences on Monday 2 July @ Tabcorp Park Menangle.


The Flying K Series, named out of a successful facebook competition, begins next Monday, 2 July when the Bulli Harness Racing Club hosts seven heats at Tabcorp Park Menangle in the twilight timeslot.

Commencing at 4:28pm, horses will fly over a 1000 metre journey starting at the top of the back straight, rounding the bend and running home.
The Series consists of $3,000 heats covering all classes of horse from 3YO’s up to M1’s with heats to be held the first three Monday’s in July (2, 9 & 16). The $12,000 finals will be conducted on Monday, 23 July.
The Series is unique and has been programmed to entice punters and horse and hound followers to the sport of harness racing. The initiatives for the Series are as follows:

1. Heats are to be run at shortened intervals - keeping the action constant
   
2. All races over 1000 metres - fast paced action, no slowing down, more haste & more speed
   
3. All runners will carry coloured coded silks and saddle cloths - making it easier to follow your horse during the race
   
4. All meetings will be conducted in the twilight timeslot commencing at approx 4:30pm

HRNSW CEO Sam Nati said “There are many strategies aligned to this series. Clearly one of them is to cater for the after work pub crowd looking for some fast paced action. It’s also about new racing opportunities for horses that would not normally get the chance to be in a $12,000 final.”


Harness Racing NSW (HRNSW) is the controlling body for harness racing in New South Wales with responsibility for commercial and regulatory management of the industry including 31 racing clubs across the State. HRNSW is headed by an industry-appointed Board of Directors and is independent of Government.

What was it you were saying about a demonstrably bad idea being worse then no idea at all?

G'day Dot,
It's just such a shameless 'dropping of the dacks' to the TAB and with it such an offensive debasing of the Code. Left to their own devices they'll one day start pushing for colour coded Barbary Macaques strapped to Goats over 100m dashes. Absolutely disgraceful.
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Monkey dressed by Tedesco's. Goat supplied by Corinthian Byfold Doors.

Looking at the fields, only 3 races have a Pink runner and a total of 1 last start winner for the entire program. Horses with no form, distance no form, majority of races only have 2 place dividends. This is sure to be a winner on the tab.

Good on them for trying something different. Based on field sizes you'd have to be pretty creative to come up with a justification to say it has worked. Hopefully those at HRNSW have the courage to admit they got it wrong. Time to start working on another innovation.

Not the end of world by any means.

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Originally Posted by Triple V

The Flying K Starts Monday

29 June 2012
by Adam Fairley


http://www.harness.org.au/news/images/logos/HRNSW-2.gif



http://www.harness.org.au/news/images/main/5635.jpg
Drivers will wear colour coded silks throughout The Flying K Series which commences on Monday 2 July @ Tabcorp Park Menangle.


The Flying K Series, named out of a successful facebook competition, begins next Monday, 2 July when the Bulli Harness Racing Club hosts seven heats at Tabcorp Park Menangle in the twilight timeslot.

Commencing at 4:28pm, horses will fly over a 1000 metre journey starting at the top of the back straight, rounding the bend and running home.
The Series consists of $3,000 heats covering all classes of horse from 3YO’s up to M1’s with heats to be held the first three Monday’s in July (2, 9 & 16). The $12,000 finals will be conducted on Monday, 23 July.
The Series is unique and has been programmed to entice punters and horse and hound followers to the sport of harness racing. The initiatives for the Series are as follows:

1. Heats are to be run at shortened intervals - keeping the action constant
   
2. All races over 1000 metres - fast paced action, no slowing down, more haste & more speed
   
3. All runners will carry coloured coded silks and saddle cloths - making it easier to follow your horse during the race
   
4. All meetings will be conducted in the twilight timeslot commencing at approx 4:30pm

HRNSW CEO Sam Nati said “There are many strategies aligned to this series. Clearly one of them is to cater for the after work pub crowd looking for some fast paced action. It’s also about new racing opportunities for horses that would not normally get the chance to be in a $12,000 final.”


Harness Racing NSW (HRNSW) is the controlling body for harness racing in New South Wales with responsibility for commercial and regulatory management of the industry including 31 racing clubs across the State. HRNSW is headed by an industry-appointed Board of Directors and is independent of Government.

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You probably didn't have to put the hand in your thread title VVV. We know what it is.

No not the end of the world maybe Mitch? But some of us are pretty certain we can see it from where we are standing now

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Originally Posted by Mitch

Good on them for trying something different. Based on field sizes you'd have to be pretty creative to come up with a justification to say it has worked. Hopefully those at HRNSW have the courage to admit they got it wrong. Time to start working on another innovation.

Not the end of world by any means.

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[VVV] G'day Mitch,

I don't have any problem with trying something innovative....but for mine there is a vast difference to be had between innovative & different.
For mine, this is not in any way, shape or form innovative....chop some 609m off the previously shortest/standard distance, put them all in Dog regalia and presto, look how innovative we are. No, rather it is just different for the sake of different being cloaked as innovative.

There's only one aspect I can see as able to be worked upon, improved & incorporated in the longer term picture of Harness Racing & that is the introduction of LARGE numbers on similarly good sized colour coded saddle cloths. Makes perfect sense.

On that score, interestingly when looking on via Sky generally it's impossible to see the TB's numbers in the running and NEVER with the naked eye trackside until they're well inside the last furlong but not a word there? Hmmm. I wonder...what sort of an answer do you think they'd get from Gerry Harvey or Singo by way of telling them they had to race a 2000m horse over a 5 furlong scamper whilst wearing 1 the Red or whatever?

On that Dog Colours aspect for Drivers, I call an ABJECT DISGRACE on that because, like their TB counterparts, Harness Owners should always have available to them the option of their driver carrying their own colours.
I see this sort of thing as the thin edge of the wedge.
It should be noted that down in VIC, Minty Man Number 1 dutifully banged on about this & similar TAB agenda serving crap for years and was ultimately rewarded with a slot at TAB Sportsbet...much like Bob Carr getting a slot at Macqaurie Bank, one can only assume for all assistances rendered during his tenure as NSW PM.
For mine, Owners Colours are an absolute non-negotiable & should this ridiculous push continue down its path...from my cold, dead fist those colours will have to be dragged.

As for those at HRNSW having the courage to admit they got it wrong, they're smarter than this and I think that they knew that it was wrong right from the outset.
I would much rather they had the courage to admit that they knew it was a waste of time and effort BUT the TAB strokers, both individual and collective, have leant on them & they simply acquiesced rather than standing firm, straight out calling Bullshit on the idea and telling them to go shove it up their clackers.

I hope the drivers will be wearing muzzles.

Jamie you are spot on on colours, encourage owners to have their own as well as trainers colours, I would imagine quite a few punters follow horses wearing certain colours. There is one other experiment with this program which is dog like, races 3 to 6 all within an hour (20 minute spacing), no question this is a TAB thing.

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[VVV] G'day Mitch,

I don't have any problem with trying something innovative....but for mine there is a vast difference to be had between innovative & different.
For mine, this is not in any way, shape or form innovative....chop some 609m off the previously shortest/standard distance, put them all in Dog regalia and presto, look how innovative we are. No, rather it is just different for the sake of different being cloaked as innovative.

There's only one aspect I can see as able to be worked upon, improved & incorporated in the longer term picture of Harness Racing & that is the introduction of LARGE numbers on similarly good sized colour coded saddle cloths. Makes perfect sense.

On that score, interestingly when looking on via Sky generally it's impossible to see the TB's numbers in the running and NEVER with the naked eye trackside until they're well inside the last furlong but not a word there? Hmmm. I wonder...what sort of an answer do you think they'd get from Gerry Harvey or Singo by way of telling them they had to race a 2000m horse over a 5 furlong scamper whilst wearing 1 the Red or whatever?

On that Dog Colours aspect for Drivers, I call an ABJECT DISGRACE on that because, like their TB counterparts, Harness Owners should always have available to them the option of their driver carrying their own colours.
I see this sort of thing as the thin edge of the wedge.
It should be noted that down in VIC, Minty Man Number 1 dutifully banged on about this & similar TAB agenda serving crap for years and was ultimately rewarded with a slot at TAB Sportsbet...much like Bob Carr getting a slot at Macqaurie Bank, one can only assume for all assistances rendered during his tenure as NSW PM.
For mine, Owners Colours are an absolute non-negotiable & should this ridiculous push continue down its path...from my cold, dead fist those colours will have to be dragged.

As for those at HRNSW having the courage to admit they got it wrong, they're smarter than this and I think that they knew that it was wrong right from the outset.
I would much rather they had the courage to admit that they knew it was a waste of time and effort BUT the TAB strokers, both individual and collective, have leant on them & they simply acquiesced rather than standing firm, straight out calling Bullshit on the idea and telling them to go shove it up their clackers.

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FYI John Singleton actually has/had some pacers. Darcy Harpley from Temora has had the training duties.

Agree Jamie large numbers on colour coded saddlecloths would be a much better innovation. Gives us two options to help people/punters identify runners-colour and number. Similarly our graphics on the screen during the running of races with names and driver colours is very detailed but is it best? Can most of our customers see clearly enough to identify this information readily from the screen or should we along with the colour coded large numbers go to the transponder technology used elsewhere that displays the position of runners in the race in a continuously updated graphic display? The race caller of course continues to use names and a narrative of position in the race. I don't know what the answer is to which option is better but surely there are methods to survey our customers, the punter, to find out. This is the sort of innovation we should be seeking out.

I'm not at all in favour of allocating "dog colours" to drivers as I think along with recognisable horses being of benefit to turnover I think punters also being able to recognise drivers is of benefit to turnover. Whilst Jamie and others are passionate about owner colours I would quite happily use driver colours on my horses if it would assist our income from turnover.

G'day Dot,
There are a few reasons why I am so passionate about retaining Owners Colours and therefore stomping all over, pounding into the ground and obliterating any and all attempts to make it otherwise...many of them personal/sentimental ones I admit...but not the least of which is the simple fact that when a horse wins, the Trainer & the Driver will get nearly all if not all the attention/exposure/focus in Industry & associated media...while all poor old mate Owner gets is a quick happy snap beside his horse with the majority of those assembled trackside turning to each other and asking "Who's that fat bastard?" or similar.
The one small amount of solice afforded them an Owners is to have their horse race in their colours...and even then here we are, at a point and place in time where clearly some absolute dickhead in a pre-fab cubicle somewhere in the TAB Offices at ULTIMO is trying his level best to take that away.
As I said, from my dead, clenched fist...

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Originally Posted by Triple V

G'day Dot,
There are a few reasons why I am so passionate about retaining Owners Colours and therefore stomping all over, pounding into the ground and obliterating any and all attempts to make it otherwise...many of them personal/sentimental ones I admit...but not the least of which is the simple fact that when a horse wins, the Trainer & the Driver will get nearly all if not all the attention/exposure/focus in Industry & associated media...while all poor old mate Owner gets is a quick happy snap beside his horse with the majority of those assembled trackside turning to each other and asking "Who's that fat bastard?" or similar.
The one small amount of solice afforded them an Owners is to have their horse race in their colours...and even then here we are, at a point and place in time where clearly some absolute dickhead in a pre-fab cubicle somewhere in the TAB Offices at Pyrmont is trying his level best to take that away.
As I said, from my dead, clenched fist...

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Speak for yourself chubby :)

Heat 1 6 Vinnies Falcon, 7 Tessace

Heat 2 1 Snukered just wins

Heat 3 2 Gotta Go Under Fire, 5 Kiwi Montana, 3 Billy Khan

Heat 4 2 Marshall Bromac SPECIAL

Heat 5 5 Theartofattitude, 1 Zany Dune

Heat 6 Have A Beer :p

Heat 7 No Eye Deer :confused:

Sprint lane might not be a bad idea today.

C'mon Triple, get into the spirit.

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Originally Posted by dizzy

No not the end of the world maybe Mitch? But some of us are pretty certain we can see it from where we are standing now

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C'mon Dot... That is a ridiculous statement. Sure the industry has seen better times but to say the end is in sight is a bit silly. I don't want to engage in a debate over this because it will just go round in circles but if you honestly think that of the industry maybe you should get out before your hand is forced!

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Originally Posted by Triple V

[VVV] G'day Mitch,

I don't have any problem with trying something innovative....but for mine there is a vast difference to be had between innovative & different.
For mine, this is not in any way, shape or form innovative....chop some 609m off the previously shortest/standard distance, put them all in Dog regalia and presto, look how innovative we are. No, rather it is just different for the sake of different being cloaked as innovative.

There's only one aspect I can see as able to be worked upon, improved & incorporated in the longer term picture of Harness Racing & that is the introduction of LARGE numbers on similarly good sized colour coded saddle cloths. Makes perfect sense.

On that score, interestingly when looking on via Sky generally it's impossible to see the TB's numbers in the running and NEVER with the naked eye trackside until they're well inside the last furlong but not a word there? Hmmm. I wonder...what sort of an answer do you think they'd get from Gerry Harvey or Singo by way of telling them they had to race a 2000m horse over a 5 furlong scamper whilst wearing 1 the Red or whatever?

On that Dog Colours aspect for Drivers, I call an ABJECT DISGRACE on that because, like their TB counterparts, Harness Owners should always have available to them the option of their driver carrying their own colours.
I see this sort of thing as the thin edge of the wedge.
It should be noted that down in VIC, Minty Man Number 1 dutifully banged on about this & similar TAB agenda serving crap for years and was ultimately rewarded with a slot at TAB Sportsbet...much like Bob Carr getting a slot at Macqaurie Bank, one can only assume for all assistances rendered during his tenure as NSW PM.
For mine, Owners Colours are an absolute non-negotiable & should this ridiculous push continue down its path...from my cold, dead fist those colours will have to be dragged.

As for those at HRNSW having the courage to admit they got it wrong, they're smarter than this and I think that they knew that it was wrong right from the outset.
I would much rather they had the courage to admit that they knew it was a waste of time and effort BUT the TAB strokers, both individual and collective, have leant on them & they simply acquiesced rather than standing firm, straight out calling Bullshit on the idea and telling them to go shove it up their clackers.

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Jaimie, love your passion. Not sure my comments prompted such a response as you have provided but if helps you get it off your chest so be it.

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Originally Posted by Mitch

Jaimie, love your passion. Not sure my comments prompted such a response as you have provided but if helps you get it off your chest so be it.

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[VVV] No, they didn't Mitch...rather I was just clearing the air as to why I thought that way, that's all. The BIG problem is that this crap has gone viral and I hear on the grapevine that WA are going to try this same routine. :(

The big question is what are the required minimum sectional times for these 1000m races?

I intend to use the time that is allocated for those races as Coffee breaks in-between races at Charlton, Albion Park, Globe Derby & Pinjarra. Might even knock up a batch of Blueberry Muffins.

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Originally Posted by Mitch

C'mon Dot... That is a ridiculous statement. Sure the industry has seen better times but to say the end is in sight is a bit silly. I don't want to engage in a debate over this because it will just go round in circles but if you honestly think that of the industry maybe you should get out before your hand is forced!

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No debate Mitch but you have proven previously that you are good with numbers, so perhaps you could look into some of the critical ones for the industry and decide for yourself just where we are positioned. Apart from afore mentioned turnover and field sizes, give consideration to the number of licensed participants, number of broodmares, stallion services, foal numbers, race meetings, races, yearling sale results, prizemoney increases with regard to inflation, positive articles in the press etc.

As to getting out-funny you should say that, I am actually deliberating on an exit strategy right now though I expect it will be around a 5 year plan. I look forward to racing the foals I have due this year and intend to repeat those matings this year, after those foals I expect I will be breeding TB's -spent an enjoyable day at the TB weanling sales just last week!

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Originally Posted by Triple V

I intend to use the time that is allocated for those races as Coffee breaks in-between races at Charlton, Albion Park, Globe Derby & Pinjarra. Might even knock up a batch of Blueberry Muffins.

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Have been missing your humour lately...glad to see you have still got it. Try Ladybirds recipe, its a winner.

http://diaryofaladybird.blogspot.com...y-muffins.html

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Originally Posted by Triple V

G'day Dot,
There are a few reasons why I am so passionate about retaining Owners Colours and therefore stomping all over, pounding into the ground and obliterating any and all attempts to make it otherwise...many of them personal/sentimental ones I admit...but not the least of which is the simple fact that when a horse wins, the Trainer & the Driver will get nearly all if not all the attention/exposure/focus in Industry & associated media...while all poor old mate Owner gets is a quick happy snap beside his horse with the majority of those assembled trackside turning to each other and asking "Who's that fat bastard?" or similar.
The one small amount of solice afforded them an Owners is to have their horse race in their colours...and even then here we are, at a point and place in time where clearly some absolute dickhead in a pre-fab cubicle somewhere in the TAB Offices at Pyrmont is trying his level best to take that away.
As I said, from my dead, clenched fist...

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Driver colours needn't be compulsory Jamie just another option to trainer/owner colours. If driver identification is a "driver" of turnover then perhaps clubs or HRNSW could consider refunding the driving fee to those connections that opt to use recognisable drivers in the drivers (probably different to the drivers training colours) colours as compensation for the owners own lack of recognition.

On that point- owner recognition -do we do enough to reward our owners for their contribution to the sport in terms of recognition/their "owning experience" or is this an area we can improve and perhaps actract more owners? Obviously prizemoney increases improve owners bottom lines but is it more money they want or is it a better experience?

Last two races some late scratchings.

Harwood Hilton injured a paw getting out of his kennel this morning.
Westera Babe weighed in too heavy after consuming too much Pedigree last night.

Word is some horses that fail at this meeting are already on their last chances so could, unfortunately, end up in Pedigree in the not too distant future.

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Have been missing your humour lately...glad to see you have still got it. Try Ladybirds recipe, its a winner.

http://diaryofaladybird.blogspot.com...y-muffins.html

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[VVV] Thanks for the recipe Brad, on the cooling rack now and they look pretty good.

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Originally Posted by dizzy

No debate Mitch but you have proven previously that you are good with numbers, so perhaps you could look into some of the critical ones for the industry and decide for yourself just where we are positioned. Apart from afore mentioned turnover and field sizes, give consideration to the number of licensed participants, number of broodmares, stallion services, foal numbers, race meetings, races, yearling sale results, prizemoney increases with regard to inflation, positive articles in the press etc.

As to getting out-funny you should say that, I am actually deliberating on an exit strategy right now though I expect it will be around a 5 year plan. I look forward to racing the foals I have due this year and intend to repeat those matings this year, after those foals I expect I will be breeding TB's -spent an enjoyable day at the TB weanling sales just last week!

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Dot, If you value my opinion in the slightest listen up. Breeding thoroughbreds is a fools game. Unless you have a black type young mare and deep pockets forget it! Even then there are no guarantees. I sold one at the weanling sales last week.... without giving too much away it was in the top 5 priced lots in the general sale and I'm still out of pocket. Surely the prices they were going for turned you off breeding to sell.... 99% of people who sold in the general sale would have lost money. And most of the top lots in the select sale were buybacks or arranged purchases.

I am selling up all my thoroughbred assets and buying more pacers to race. Trust me it's 100 times easier to get your money back. Anyway I'm off topic here.....

An early look at the NSW TAB results show todays turnover was below last Mondays Bankstown meeting and well, well below the Monday menangle meeting a fortnight ago.

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An early look at the NSW TAB results show todays turnover was below last Mondays Bankstown meeting and well, well below the Monday menangle meeting a fortnight ago.

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A massive wank? No. A concept doomed to failure? Probably. The industry lives or dies on betting turnover and with no reason to doubt Brendans figures, the experiment will eventually be consigned to the scrap heap. Personally, I found the racing visually exciting and fair, in that it favoured leaders and swoopers alike and short priced favourites did not dominate the day, in fact only one odds-on fav saluted. What I found disappointing today was these guys were racing for $3,000 whilst over in S.A in a matinee meeting they held a 2yo Trot worth $6,000. For a club flush with cash, thats a bit of an insult to participants in NSW.

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What I found disappointing today was these guys were racing for $3,000 whilst over in S.A in a matinee meeting they held a 2yo Trot worth $6,000. For a club flush with cash, thats a bit of an insult to participants in NSW.

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For half a race they had half the prizemoney? Seems fair....

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What I found disappointing today was these guys were racing for $3,000 whilst over in S.A in a matinee meeting they held a 2yo Trot worth $6,000. For a club flush with cash, thats a bit of an insult to participants in NSW.

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[VVV] G'day Brad. Can't follow your line of thinking there. Why should the NSWHRC feel in any way compelled to fully fund an excursion into the absurd by HRNSW which comes at the behest of the NSWTAB?

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Originally Posted by aussiebreno

An early look at the NSW TAB results show todays turnover was below last Mondays Bankstown meeting and well, well below the Monday menangle meeting a fortnight ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U?
To many, I suspect not in the slightest.For anyone in any area of the Industry to have, at any stage, entertained thoughts that it would be otherwise merely underlines that they’re delusional or otherwise saluting the flag & lining up with the greater philosophy behind all this crap...the NSW TAB's rather thinly disguised desire to turn Harness Racing into a 1000m equine version of the churn and burn that is Dog Lotto.

Rgds

Jaimie

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For half a race they had half the prizemoney? Seems fair....

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C'mon Glen, they aren't paying them by the metre in prizemoney. If they were looking for curtain material, then that would be different. They are racing on the flagship track of NSW, participants are providing the product and if they go well enough, deserve to be recompensed as equally as they would be any other Monday they race at Menangle. To draw a comparison (which may help shoot myself in the foot), men and women get equal prizemoney in tennis, even though the girls only have to play three sets.

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Originally Posted by Triple V

[VVV] G'day Brad. Can't follow your line of thinking there. Why should the NSWHRC feel in any way compelled to fully fund an excursion into the absurd by HRNSW which comes at the behest of the NSWTAB?

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Hey Jaimie, hope those muffins tasted good. Similarly, along the same lines as my response to G Mac. After all the trumpeting about increased prizemoney in NSW, the club does not support the connections who supported the concept. Smacks a bit of 5 bob eachway to me. If the mugs do bring their nags to the track and the concept is deemed a failure, NSWHRC can turn around and say we didn't outlay a lot, not much damage done and move on to the next initiative. But if the NSWHRC had the courage to stand by their conviction in that if they are going to hold the series at Menangle, then they should meet their obligations (obligations may be too strong a word) as they always do on a Monday afternoon and put up the $5,000 prizemoney they normally do.

Some quick comparisons of yesterdays day meetings reveal that while they raced for $3,000 in Sydney, they compared poorly to Charlton $5,000 and Pinjarra mostly $5,700. Thats a disgrace and is little reward for NSW participants who supported the concept.

They race at Bankstown for $3,000 on Mondays, thats a given. But when at Menangle on Monday afternoons it is always $5,000. Why should these guys get penalised? What makes them second rate particpants? They did actually race at a registered meeting. It wasn't a gymkhana. And I thought the racing was great.

The Club is BULLI Brad, not Menangle.
They raced at Menangle, it is a Bulli Club 'R' meeting for applicable prizemoney.
They're not 2nd rate participants by any means however by and large those are horses that are struggling to win a quid anywhere else and for them a shot at a 3k Heat/12k Final does not come along often, if at all...if ever.
I think the concept is a real wank... but the opportunity for the owners of those horses to get $$$something$$$ back is obviously too good to refuse.

Btw Brad, before you sink the slipper too deeply into the NSWHRC, you'll note that at today's Menangle meeting and for all subsequent meetings they've kicked the official tin along to the tune of each 'C' class race going off for $7,000 as opposed to the previous $5,500...and this they did entirely of their own volition and from the proceeds of the Race Fields Legislation due the Club. It comes from nowhere else but their own account.
One wonders what other Clubs will do with theirs? Will they similarly kick the tins at their tracks?

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Originally Posted by Triple V

The Club is BULLI Brad, not Menangle.
They raced at Menangle, it is a Bulli Club 'R' meeting for applicable prizemoney.
They're not 2nd rate participants by any means however by and large those are horses that are struggling to win a quid anywhere else and for them a shot at a 3k Heat/12k Final does not come along often, if at all...if ever.
I think the concept is a real wank... but the opportunity for the owners of those horses to get $$$something$$$ back is obviously too good to refuse.

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Jaimie it was Bulli at Menangle on the 4 June and 18 June at Menangle as well when they raced for $5,000, not the $3,000 they put on yesterday. And yes there is a $12,000 final which is great, but don't you think it is a bit of a disservice (is that spelt right?) to the owners who would normally race for higher P/M at these meetings? ( putting aside that you think its a wank )

That is still not the NSWHRC, that is Bulli.

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Originally Posted by Triple V

Btw Brad, before you sink the slipper too deeply into the NSWHRC, you'll note that at today's Menangle meeting and for all subsequent meetings they've kicked the official tin along to the tune of each 'C' class race going off for $7,000 as opposed to the previous $5,500...and this they did entirely of their own volition and from the proceeds of the Race Fields Legislation due the Club. It comes from nowhere else but their own account.
One wonders what other Clubs will do with theirs? Will they similarly kick the tins at their tracks?

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And that is great. Who knows what other clubs will do. They all have their own little issues.

All the heat and final series around Wagga have $3000 (restricted) heats and a $5000 (country) final.
Not sure there is much in it tbh brad.

I watched this snorefest yesterday. Nothing against struggling owners, trainers or drivers trying to earn a few bucks , but PLEASE , as any sort of spectacle or betting proposition , was pathetic.

Interested to hear Fred Hastings before the first race ( and I am certain it was tongue in cheek / sarcasm) , that " APPARENTLY Harness NSW officials had a lot of feedback saying they wanted shorter races and use of greyhound rug colours for drivers". Note his use of the word "apparently".

No I don't believe a word of the so-called overwhelming request from the harness fraternity / public for races shorter than one mile and if you want to see greyhound rug colours in races stick to Wentworth Park dogs.

I think another three weeks of this rubbish concept , then please bury it forever.