How far will Im Themightyquinn win by?
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Odds are:
Won't win: $11
< 1 length: $3
1-2 lengths: $2.50
> 2 lengths: $2.50
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How far will Im Themightyquinn win by?
Please post your pick.
Odds are:
Won't win: $11
< 1 length: $3
1-2 lengths: $2.50
> 2 lengths: $2.50
> 2 lengthsQuote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Where can I get $11 that he wont win ? Would love some of that. I don't think he will make the first four !
Brave lot those who aren't picking Quinny. Too scared to post now, but will come out in droves should he lose :)
Happy to put my name up Brendon, as i and others have mentioned many times "too many things" need to go right for him to win. i totally believe he can win, but, the stars all have to align and the Gods must all agree. If he is "out" and under big pressure at the top of the LOOOONG Menangle straight, his little heart will pop about 50m out. So Hall has all the pressure on him to conserve his little baby 99.9% until the last 150m, if he can do that and of course not use ANYTHING at the start he is in with a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
I'm hoping it plays out for an ITMQ Vs Terror To Love stretch drive. That'll be one for the ages. You'll tell your grandkids about it.
ITMQ can of course win but I dont think he will...I think Mah Sish & Caribbean Blaster will run strong races up front & I just got a feeling ITMQ will not be close enough to run them down..Terror to Love will be the main danger if close enough at the end...Pub Blitz being the dark horse,he has impressed me no end..so many "what if's"...should be a corker
Fully agree and my "opinion" was posted well before the heats and barrier draw."IMO" the draw has not done GHj any favours at all.If he goes back,as he has said is his preferred racing pattern,the second row horses become obstacles to dropping into a 1 x 4 possie. Luck's a fortune but it is more likely that he will need to go right back rather than lob mid-field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maorisidol
The really interesting scenario is if GHj decides to go forward,lead then hand up ASAP, [and the horse has the speed to do that].
First problem, is that the horses drawn inside will not want to hand up and even if GHj gets the front we know he will hand-up hoping to get sucked along leading to second problem.
There will be more than one horse/driver wanting to get to the front over 3200.It is quite likely that ITMQ could be four back on the rails and could GHj rely on the good manners of the other drivers to let him off the fence when he needs a run?
What is TTL doing while all of this is going on? Well may we ask,"how many beans make five?"
Buggered if I know, but the barrier draw has made it a most intriguing race,run to first turn will be charge of the Light Brigade but the moves in running will be fascinating.
As I have wondered about how the race will be run, a little niggle comes along that this final might provide a boilover.Who could it be is the question?
Based on Chariot Kings current speed out of the gate i see him wanting to cross the 1 and 2 horses and get to the pegs and hibernate. Adam Hamilton says Lincoln Royal is extremely fast out and he reckons he can lead and apparently has lead from a very wide gate at Menangle before, his Trainer or driver has apparently said they then will not hand up. Quinn cannot afford any battles at the start so i agree may end up right out the back. After that buggered if i know, Mah Sish maybe 4 pegs, Carribbean Blaster should be in front half, and then moves could come from everywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2minuteman
Agree an absolute smoky could win, Jaccka Clive racing really well flying home in Hunter Cup loves 3000m, spewin i missed $8 place for him on fixed odds pre barrier draw.
The old cover our arses "ITMQ can win with luck" = no egg on face if he does win.
But will still be the first to crack eggs should he lose.
Hop on the bandwagon now before its too late fellas. A 1.55 MR last quarter 27.5 from 2 lengths off them. Heard it here first.
Of course he can win, we are not stupid Brenno, we just think what we think as stated no need to repeat myself. Personally i think there are only about 4-5 horses who cannot win. Its a very wide open race, there are possibilities everywhere. But because as i stated once before you are starstruck or "pu55y whipped" buy a certain little sprinter you cant handle anyone saying he cant win 100%. Chill out brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
OK hows this Bren, if ITMQ does decent work in the race, is under the pump and flat out at the top of the big long Menangle straight and then wins, he'll earn my respect.
But if he sits quiet does nothing, gets an easy cart up until last 200m and outsprints them, then its the same crackers isnt it.
[QUOTE=Maorisidol;25926]Of course he can win.
If ITMQ does decent work in the race, is under the pump and flat out at the top of the big long Menangle straight and then wins, he'll earn my respect.
And He'll earn my respect.
But if he sits quiet does nothing, gets an easy cart up until last 200m and outsprints them, then ....
He'll earn my respect there too.
Three consecutive Interdominions and that elusive Australia East Coast Grand Circuit prize....
He'll deserve everyone's respect and adulation to go with it.
Only thing that should put some (but not all) off is that NZ beside his name...!!!!!
Must admit that I hope he can win his third Inter Dom in a row.You would think reading some posts that he's the weakest 3.7 million dollar earner ever.
Quinny's big problem is the final is in Sydney. In Perth he has a win to starts ratio of 70% while in the eastern states it is 20%. One win in his last 8starts in the east doesn't make good reading. If things go his way of course he can win it but his record in the east would suggest it is going to be a lot tougher than people are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big K
Brenno, your stirring knows no boundarys. Hisgen65 states the obvious, of course IMTQ can win as do I. But he is no moral and nor is Terror To Love. But TTL will be getting all mine and I've spruiked it for long enough and can see no need to change. Lets just hope you and Bob get the overs you are looking for.
Haven't seen the star studded trial that went around at Menangle today, Christen Me beating IMTQ in pretty slick time. Anyone there to give an account of the trial?
Christen Me 5 back the pegs,popped off round the bend and ran home strongly,ITMQ dropped out to last..long way off the lead early ,got on Pub blitz back as he worked up,pulled three wide around the bend and sprinted home good.To be honest didn't take close note of most of the others but from a WA perspective thought Im Victorious trialled well and MMM was a nice win.
Sounds good,how does he get to be two off at the quarter?Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiebreno
Only thing that should put some (but not all) off is that NZ beside his name...!!!!![/QUOTE]
What on earth is that supposed to mean?
He was given a solid hit out for sure. He was obviously in need of it and they forked out for the late entry fee to start in the Auckland Cup next week, that's good enough for me. Bookies weren't impressed though, suckers : )Quote:
Originally Posted by Big K
Christen Me is a phenom. Christian Cullen flashbacks. I should call crime stoppers and dob myself in for the $3.20 : )
Blacks A Fake probably still hasn't won you over Ron.
ITMQ 1-2 Lengths. Leave a little something in the locker to win the Auckland Cup next week.
Yea I was there as well,funnily enough I sat with the breeder of ITMQ,great race and on the night I thought great win to SU he was too good,and ITMQ's run was outstanding as well.But besides everything else what can you say.. ITMQ the winner.Was it wrong that SU was DQ'd,I dont know but I guess the rules are the rules.Just to touch on the negative opinions that Quinnie seems to attract,I thought his win in the Auckland Cup that year was outstanding and he won all his heats for the Inters that year as well.As it stands he has won every heat and final of the Inter Dom for the last two years and also his heat this year.I think this year he'll give it a big shake as well.
Here is the trial video guys.
http://www.trotstv.com.au/?id=8101#.USxAQeChG70
thanks Gollywog!Quote:
Originally Posted by gollywog
WOW Christen Me, unextended! held Quinns sprint easily, Quinn was full bore from top of straight. (thats a compliment to Quinns sprint for those of you thinking i am bagging him)
Fair comment.Glad they paid winning div onSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big K
Could you see another horse in the I.D. final sprint as quick as Quinny did up the straight in that trial?. I can't, including TTL.Quote:
Originally Posted by gollywog
So all the Quinnie detractors, haters etc, etc, etc, better hope that the horse gets no luck in running in the final.
Nothing intended towards you gollywog, just using your trial URL.
Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300
and both unextended.
[QUOTE=teecee;25929]Too right teecee, many like to overlook that NZ next to Aussie horses, but always remember AUS/NZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maorisidol
If a West Aussie doesn't win then I'll be supporting a Kiwi; which just about means the whole field really.
[QUOTE=Mighty Atom;25964]Jeepers Rod,Quote:
Originally Posted by teecee
You really were involved in that movement in Perth many years ago that wanted to cut the West off from the rest of Australia and become your own nation!
And being a Freo boy you probably wanted also to be detached from those on the other side of the river!
You do know his 3 Inter heat wins in Perth last year were really standard issue WA FFA races...:) they werent even worthy of ID status, the toughest horse he faced in a heat was Raglan!!!
[QUOTE=Maorisidol;25965]Hi Ash,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
Did you not read my post about how fast W.A. FFA performers are, could easily out -perform some of those masquerading as G1's, as the placings in the I.D. 2012 confirm.
As far as the succession debate goes, believe me it hasn't gone away, about 37 - 40 % of sandgropers are still in the affirmative. I think W.A. was the last state to sign up to the federation - I'm a fence sitter myself.
You are write about the north - south issue with regards to Perth. Many believe they are two different cities.
Not just WA ones go quick there. Smoken Up 1.48.5. Looking at list in classicfamiles 1.52.2 makes it the fastest WA horse at Menangle. About 40th overall. But that list only includes classic winners. Dont know where to get complete list but reckon would scrape into top 100. They flying machines them WA horses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
When you break times down doesn't look like much difference between them all eg. 1.52.2 = .0697327 metres per sec. 1.48.5 = .0674331 mps. But then convert to race dist-time and 1.48.5 beats 1.52.2 by 53 metres.
Yep they flying machines.
Smoken Up - oh for the glory days. Not that many W.A. horses have raced at Menangle and have already established a pretty impressive record and in fast time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toohard
Not going to put crap on anyone here but lets face reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
There was 7 races over the 1609 mtrs on the 16th February, of those only 2 MO's went slower than the 1.52.2.
This track is a completely different playing field when it comes to times. Even Mo's and M1/M2's can go quick.
Smoken Up retired? ok will leave smoken up out and use 2nd fastest time Menangle. Oops nope can't do that. 3rd fastest. Washakie. 1.50.5 beats 1.52.2 by 24ms. Apart from I'm Victorious who maybe gets into top 100 which other WA horses have established an impressive record in a fast time? 1.52.2 fast at Menangle??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
Washakie of course is a former WA horse who is still owned in WA.MMM's run was pretty good considering his wide draw and early burn.Won quite well so no doubt the time is an indication of what he can do.Dont think he'll be left behind on Sunday either.
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In the FFA i like Mah Sish from the draw and for the so called roughies i like Pub Blitz he ran home strong from the rear giving Imthemightyquinn a nice cart up to the straight who finished off well.Carribean Blaster if he gets a sit could go well the only thing that worries me is if he gets the top and holds the lead is the way he likes to pull it could bring him undone.From the trial Christenme i think will win the chariots from Bit Of A legend.
What on earth is this comment referring to.IMO BaF a much better horse than ITMQ has been so farQuote:
Originally Posted by HaroldParker
I have just watched the replay 5-6 times.On the home turn ITMQ 4 wide and on the move,CM maybe a length in front but needed to get out and did so, sprinted under a hold and won the trial in great fashion.ITMQ under some pressure makes no ground on winner. Needed hit out was stable comment on ITMQ run.Needed run 5 days out from a 3200 FFA?? Good luck Sunday to all runners.Quote:
Originally Posted by gollywog
He did not sprint quick enough to beat the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mighty Atom
By the by,no hating ITMQ at all,just an opinion that his racing pattern does not engender confidence in a fair dinkum, lets get down and dirty 3200m final.However, Sunday will prove some right and some wrong.No excuses listened to,pro or con.
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Another point, note how fast W.A. horses are, over at Menangle, I'm Victorius 1:52.7, MMM 1:52.2 after 3 wide in the first 300 and both unextended.[/QUOTE]
Another point,imagine if a non WA horse was to run,say 48 and change or maybe a C4 horse was to run 51 and change,WOW!!
Before all you form experts get into it, remember the Inter Final is over 3009 mtrs. not 3200mtrs.
Start at the mile marker in the front straight, past the post and 2 laps.