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I saw this well named horse at Horsham on Wednesday and it would catch anyone's eye as its neck looks like that of an Appaloosa. I want to study how colouring is determined one day but for now does anyone have any idea how this breeding may have resulted in such interesting markings
http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...orse_id=575934
Nothing to do with its breeding it is just a somatic mutation (a one off and wont pass on to progeny) very flash, we had a die laughing x ollies magic filly with one that went from the inside of her knee round to her elbow and then completely covered her girth and right up to her wither, you often see them in grey arabs and they are refered to as a "bloody shoulder" as its exactly what it looks like on them red hairs on a white/grey coat and on a bay they are refered to as a "reverse bloody shoulder" as they are white hairs on a dark coat.
I prefer the pintos and dominant whites at least their colour can be passed onto their progeny but sadly rarely as well bred as this one, except in the case of the dominant white courage and art major colts but they are one in a million
Thank you Monique - very interesting. For any that would like to see dozens of examples of somatic mutation
http://www.pinterest.com/andalusians...atic-mutation/
Im a wee bit nutty when it comes to colour genetics lol, love anything out of the ordinary but trying to breed well bred funky colours that can run is the big challenge
Same here Monique - I have actually spent most of the afternoon researching all of Miss M J Eden's in NZ. Pretending I will buy a skewbald to send to A Bit Of Bling.Quote:
Originally Posted by broco
Thanks very much for that Kev, Some real handsome horses amongst those, I promised my sister that I would buy her a coloured horse when she's ready and i think that I will be contacting Ms Parsons who also has a Bettor's filly that I would be quite interested in, But I would have to win the Lottery for that one lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Would Apache Cat come into that category Monique??? He had a lot more white across his head than you would normally see. I watched a short Doco on Channel 9 about him and was absolutely gobsmacked when I saw him without blinkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by broco
Have a mach three and a christian cullen in foal to A bit of bling, hes a super big type for a skew, finding well conformed coloureds of good size is as hard as finding a fast one have sold most of mine only 3 left, just keeping the best few to breed to the best stallions and one nice yearling bgs folly colt that may get to keep his manly bits if he shapes up, the market for them is non existent unless you want to tell bull and dream up times they couldnt run down a well just to sell them, but I can have my bit of fun with them myself i dont have myself on with their ability though, the ladybird filly can run but its looney like her mum.
Apache cat is either just loud sabino or he may be a splash white but splash is not always so obvious in the thoroughbreds, I have his bay standardbred equivalent in a mare named "secretive lombo" she used to look awesome when racing, a case of saw her, had to have her, got her.
That bettors girl is going to breed me my first menangle winner as a breeder/owner/trainer/driver lol pipe dream but hey whats racing without dreamers haha
Thanks Monique, I just find a real attraction to the coloured horses. Have no doubt that the Bettor's will get you your Menangle winner and several more, Super family.
I always say at least if they are not much good they still look great, sad reality it costs the same to feed a good one as it does a slow one.
I sure hope your right about the bettors
We should have been on him - one week later and he comes out and pays $15.50 tonight
a flash one for all to watch "ants in your pants" skewbald mcardle colt won a trial very easy in qld, looks to go alright might be a fast coloured one on watching the trial and a great name to go with it
Sure about the name Monique? I cannot find him on HRA
Ants inhis pants
Thanks G. I tried a couple of combos but I would never have got that one. Wanted to check his ped.
I bet you would not have taken so long to breed from his skewbald dam MoniqueQuote:
Originally Posted by broco
She came from the same place as the stallion I used for a few years, just sat in paddocks and wasted after their breeder passed away, im not a fan of using the double line colours for breeding as you have the whole side of the page to improve but when you can send them to the top sires that this bloke can its a win/wim sitiation, also has an art major and mach three from memory
Are you meaning 'Gal' not bloke, Monique and referring to Frilly Nickers?Quote:
Originally Posted by broco
Nope bloke as in the fellow breeding them, doing the best job of any on improving the coloureds
Gottya drift now :D
Must have Sunday morning hangover without having had a Saturday drink even - stupid of me to think a mare could 'send' herself to a stallion :rolleyes:
The Mach Three is from his dam Frilly Nickers ¾ sister Fancy NickersQuote:
Originally Posted by broco
Ants Inhis Pants is even nicely line-bred with a 4x4 Niatross cross
http://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gas/wa/r/i...rID&Arg=205320
Have you been following this well named 'Culler Coded' Monique?
Looks a stunner and traces to the Gp1 winning skewbald mare Snowflake (1943)
TeeCee - any chance of changing the Title of this thread to COLOURED HORSES
Had a look at the replay Kev, He's a stunning looking animal alright and also has a fair bit of ability.
Kyle, always on the lookout for clever ways to promote Warragul meets filed this story last week
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=34596
Unfortunately he was scratched but we now have him in our black book so let's hope he makes it to the track
I think I am right in saying that none of his sire's or grandsire's have ever contested an actual race
I also hope he is cream as HRA lists him as bay
From the same season A Bit Of Bling has another named foal listed as a skewbald (Patchy Cat)
I can remember being excited enough to go to Horsham to see his ABOB's first start (see link below to watch)
As Broco pointed out in post 8, he was a big boy but unfortunately - not fast
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...IC#HSC17111405
Monique had a couple served by A Bit Of Bling, let us know how you are going Monique
There was a cream A Bit of Bling for sale on Facebook recently. Not sure if it sold
I forgot to add that Arctic Cat is trained out of Brighton (Victoria?) !
Arctic Cat is definately a cream or a roan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHzYUjAtnPA
Is a link to his trial at Cranbourne on 19/8/17
Much appreciated Phil. HRA might need to change that descriptor
He looks a lot like Dad, I hope he is not too chunky like Dad - I noticed the winner of that trial could only manage 7th at Warragul yesterday (in the race that Arctic Cat was scratched from)
Trained by Bradley Walters who was based in Tas (maybe at Brighton) but has relocated to Victoria (probably not to our Brighton though)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
It was hard to imagine Kyle LOL
Arctic cat is neither bay, cream nor roan he's a true buckskin, hra's colour desriptions are ridiculous.
Goes hand in hand with the hrnsw write up calling My Rona Gold the fastest roan in Australia when she's nothing near a roan she's a grey, hasn't even got a roan parent, totally different genetics and very different colours.
A Bit Of Bling is buckskin skewbald so his progeny can come out either of those or plain colours, he's not the chunky buckskin stallion he's actually well over 16hands athletic and very well proportioned, the chunky one stands in mildura and never raced, he's not a quarter of the type snow is.
My buckskin is the one on Facebook for sale, she's the last coloured on the place and once she's gone there will never be another one here
A bit sad to hear Monique. I saw ABOB at his first start at Horsham, maybe the colour fooled me but I remember him as being 'big boned'
Solid but no more big boned than the big art majors or modern art stock, think the white legs offer a bit of an illusion
Ernieson a 4yo first starter in R1 at Ballarat was definitely bred to be a Skewbald
BUT despite the dam Life Of Chiquita being one, as is sire Ernie Eldorado (this is the first of his 5 foals to race)
Ernieson is a bay
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...=1#BAC26022005
Good old Snowtime. Wherever a coloured horse pops up at the races he usually pops up in the pedigree.
HOLY COW
I just noticed that Ernie Eldorado his skewbald sire is in the same race
He is now a 9yo and has not raced since his 2yo season
They made 9 News
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...third-placing/
Dad Ernie El is only pony size while his son didn't seem too interested
Skewbald 4yo Holstein is having his first start at Shep next Monday
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...=1#SPC06042005
Going way, way back this. Karamea Snow, a piebald, ran in the 1972 Interdominion final at Albion Park. On the old 800 metre right-handed track. Drew the pole and galloped out losing all chance.
There were a number of piebald/skewbald Karamea horses in the 70's and 80's. IIRC, Cini's had a couple of them.
Karamea Snow was the true black and white piebald. His dam, Snowfall, was a full sister to the stallion Snow Time. Their dam Snowflake was a piebald Dillon Hall mare owned by Noel Simpson. Whenever you see a coloured horse at the racing do some pedigree research an you'll nearly always fun old Snowflake or her offspring lurking in the distant past.Quote:
Originally Posted by thepacingman