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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...fb4959040e300b
I was at a funeral today and was told about this by a trainer. I was told it was on the front page of the newspapers - hopefully I will not wake up tomorrow to find it so
People please remember we have to be very careful of posting heresay
Have been givn to Friday to state why they shouldn't be suspended
This is the race in question
http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#COC22061505
This is the stewards report that didn't seem concerned about the 27 Q3 or all the rubber-necking
http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-r...fm?mc=CO220615
Airbournemagic is a full brother to Exciteusinthecity
Interesting to note that DB Bartley is listed as the the trainer for the Cobram win but by the time of its next start the trainer is Amanda Turnbull - Nathan Jack's partner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
choice of words are noteworthy if the quote is accurate.
http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story...nocent-victim/
Steve Turnbull says in the articleQuote:
Originally Posted by Danno
“She is an innocent victim in the whole show. She is so upset; she didn’t even go to the meeting [where the alleged race fixing occurred] and wasn’t down as the trainer. She is really stressed to think these allegations have come against her name, all they are at the moment are rumours.”
Maybe the fact that she was not down as the trainer could be the problem?
Our own sites report
http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia...racing-arrests
Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
http://www.harnesslink.com/Australia...-Investigation
Look at the human connections here. Might have something to do with the stable change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
David Bartley listed as trainer.
Mark Pitt was the driver. His partner Lisa Bartley is David's daughter.
She worked for the Turnbull/Jack stable when they were based at Shepparton.
whether the race fixing is fact and the questioned parties are involved remains to be seen ,but it is very pleasing to see that the integrity department is on the ball...well done guys,keep up the good work.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by allanjg
They have been given an extension to MondayQuote:
Originally Posted by barney
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30866
I could be wrong but reading this the cramps were charged & then stood down???? yea , no ???? Interesting to see what happens to Nathan Jack & Amanda Turnbull & the others (no one is charged) with this case, but no doubt the stewards & co will do the correct thing either way.
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/...-shayne-cramp/
It is now Thursday and I have not seen an update anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
NEWS ROOM needs to lift its game
Edit: Apologies, Messenger needs to improve his reading skills
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Found this on the harness site.
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30916
That is not about the police action Trish but trying to find where you found that (In the NEWS ROOM but not under Lead Stories but under Stewards Wrap)
I found
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30885
which included:
...... HRV Stewards advise that they will now give due consideration to such matters.
Any decision of the HRV Stewards in this regard is not expected to be made and announced prior to Thursday 8 September 2016.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Kevin,
On Monday HRV Media released the following item in the 'News Room', under the Stewards Wrap column: http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30885
As you'd know I'm sure HRV stewards' media releases have always been placed in the stewards' wrap section of the 'News Room'.
I was fooled by the fact that I looked on the Vic site and if hover on the News Room atQuote:
Originally Posted by codywinnell
http://www.hrv.org.au/news-room/
there are no categories and what really fooled me was the fact that there is a 'Peter Muir Inquiry' so I mistakenly expected to see the the bigger inquiry story there too
[QUOTE=Messenger;47712]I was fooled by the fact that I looked on the Vic site and if hover on the News Room at
http://www.hrv.org.au/news-room/
No worries Kevin. If you look further down to the day it was released you'll see the earlier stewards' media releases on that Victorian news feed on hrv.org.au
Harness.org.au breaks everything into categories, because obviously it is a national site, but all Vic news items are disseminated to the hrv.org.au news room chronologically from the harness.org.au newsroom where they are initially published.
[QUOTE=codywinnell;47713]You're right - I have been making a lot of mistakes latelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
I do however wish there were not so many places that I have to keep up with
I think I will train myself to use the national site but remember to check the stewards wrap too
[QUOTE=Messenger;47715]If you do want just the one feed, I'd encourage you to use hrv.org.au newsroom because it had what you were looking for, just a bit further down as the info is placed in there in chronological order.Quote:
Originally Posted by codywinnell
That is a fair point but I just prefer the look and content of the national page as my Internet Explorer home page. Harnesslink forum is of course my Google Chrome home page ;)
"the HRV Stewards have directed the suspension of the licences of the four relevant participants, with immediate effect, for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues. Pursuant to AHRR 15(d), the relevant participants have also been excluded from attending racecourses in Victoria for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues"
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30927
No doubt there will be an appeal
In accordance with the provisions of AHRR 183, the HRV Stewards have directed the suspension of the licences of the four relevant participants, with immediate effect, for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues. Pursuant to AHRR 15(d), the relevant participants have also been excluded from attending racecourses in Victoria for no longer than 3 months (should circumstances remain the same) while the investigation continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by thepacingman
Now I know where you live Noel :D
So immediate means immediate?
And Nathan Jack will not be driving at Bendigo tonight?
Why is it that the HRV's media releases do not actually name the 'four relevant participants' ?
The RAD appeals will be interesting, with NO charges laid after the public arrests and No stewards action taken on the race itself, it appears to be a reaction situation.
I wonder what the Vic Racing Ministers office wants HRV to do next.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty.
The $64 question. Will the four names be listed on the next weekly suspended drivers list?? Doesn't make sense that they are not named when most people know who they are anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
I'll change your comment to "it IS a reaction situation." Once it got into the press, HRV had to be seen to be doing something or the media would have hounded them and the minister. Would not take much pressure from above for the stewards to act as Murray is a weak chief steward.Quote:
Originally Posted by p plater
As for the RAD who knows how it will go as it's just a lucky dip there. Some of their decisions just defy logic and belief.
IMO if you cannot name the parties you cannot suspend them
The HRV's suspended drivers list updated Sep 11 does not mention them
and the Bendigo Stewards report from Sep 9 has finally gone up and only says
"Due to driver Nathan Jack not attending the meeting the following driver changes were approved"
http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-r...fm?mc=BN090916
The only up front source would appear to be HarnessWeb where there is 3 names on the Suspended Drivers list with a start date of Sep 9 and an end date Dec 9
4 KevQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Thanks Nathan - missed one
Edit: Just caught In The Gig and they too did not name the 4 participants
Undoubtedly they are acting on legal advice to not reveal the names
(I'm the skinny one in the pic)
For those not wanting to download - All appeals upheld
Geez, I had a good laugh at the positive spin HRV tried to put on their media statement. They would have been better off saying nothing. All they did was dig a deeper hole for themselves and are just trying to cover their own rear ends. This farce surely means that the chief stewards position is now untenable.
http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=30972
The HRV media statement
Getting a little ahead of yourself? At this stage prior to a hearing and the investigation in it's infancy there are insufficient grounds to suspend. Let's wait and see. I think you may well regret going the early crow!Quote:
Originally Posted by thepacingman
I know these guys have not been charged yet but if the public are unsure if people are trying to win or helping others, it makes for difficult punting - down goes the turnover......trust is gone